Smoke Rings

By Staff
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Hi! That hot summer is gone and we’re into fall and football
games, high school bands and bonfires, snow’s a’coming,
Thanksgiving, Christmas and Holiday time-enjoy it for another year.
With engines shedded and bedded down for next year’s reunions,
you can have fun reminiscing about the past summer and all those
good times you had- and prepare for more in ’84.

An interesting letter comes from DAVID E. GRIM, 2615 East River
Road, Newton Falls, Ohio 44444 as he states : ‘Since I wrote my
original letter, July/Aug 1982, page 17, I have met several other
Brownwall owners and several have written to me, one from Vermont
who has an identical sister and another from Fort Erie, Ontario who
relayed some very useful information.

‘My engine was quite possibly built as the manual says in
Holland, Michigan as the name was not cast into the flywheels. As
for serial numbers, there are none in the usual crankshaft ends.
But, if they were lightly hand stamped, the weather may well have
taken its toll.

‘The engine was probably green with blue flywheels as some
Canadians were that were sold by L. A. Lister in England and
Canada. It was built between 1914 and 1924. My Brownwall came with
a National magneto which is inoperable and is now fired on a
battery and buzz box.

‘Because of transportation difficulties and a late start I
only took it to one show. A few recognized her style immediately.
Some had heard of them and many just interested folks asked the
name. I must admit that it draws much interest, especially since I
find it is complete as originally sold with the exception that the
water tank cover has not been found.

‘I would like to compile as much information as I possibly
can including present owners, sizes, S/N’s, locations, values
and pictures. My sources tell me they have only seen about a dozen
of the 12,000 produced.

‘Keep up the good work. My only complaint is that when I get
my issue of GEM, I usually sit right down and read
it clear through and then I have to wait a whole two months for the
next issue.’

Readers, take note! DARVIN E. JAHNKE, Star Route, Box 357-A,
Detroit Lakes, Michigan 56501 needs data on a Nelson Brothers
horizontal single cylinder air-cooled engine.
5/8 HP, S/N 60938. He desires to know the
color it should be and if there is a shield over the starting
mechanism. If so, what does it look like?

A man with a problem writes with expectations of answers. JIM
MOYER, R.R. #1, Shallow Lake, Ontario, Canada N0H 2K0 says: ‘I
have a single cylinder gas engine with no nameplate or
identification tag on it, but I know for sure it is a 6 HP
Milwaukee engine. My father bought this engine over 40 years ago
and used it for many years to buzz wood and run the corn blizzard
for filling the silo. It was a crackin’ good ‘ol loud
snorter of an engine and I would love to hear it chuff and snort
anew.

‘I would like to adapt one of those powerful Webster
magnetos if possible or one of those magneto-igniter combination
unit type gizzmos. The current and possibly the original magneto is
gear-driven from the crankshaft and is very weak. What years were
the Milwaukees manufactured and what horsepower ranges were
made?

‘I hereby appeal to all you good iron-men in Engineland
familiar with this engine to drop me a line. I’d be much
obliged for your assistance as I’m aware the Milwaukee is a
very scarce brand.’

‘I need some help with an engine that I recently
purchased,’ proclaims CHESTER FOSLER, Route 2, 621 D Street,
Milford, Nebraska 68405.

‘It is a Union Giant, 2 HP, #B842 made in Ottawa, Kansas. It
has two exhaust pipes. It is missing a few parts. I would like to
hear from anyone who has an engine like this or has any information
about it. I will answer all letters and will be glad to pay for
pictures showing the ignition system. Also need to know about
colors, striping, etc.’

DONALD G. HAHN, RD #1, Box 334, Glen Gardner, New Jersey 08826
is restoring a Mallilieu & Conrey, Philadelphia, Pa. 8 HP
engine. He says he has looked through all past
GEM’s and cannot find any information on it.
He would like to know the original colors and any other data.

‘I would like to get some information on headers and header
boxes that were used to harvest grain in some parts of North and
South Dakota many years ago.’ If you can assist this fellow
buff, write RONALD J. PRITZKAU, 1921 208 Street E. #26, Spanaway,
Washington 98387.

Another plea for help comes from CLYDE BETTENCOURT, 228
Florimond Drive, Colusa, California 95932. He has a Simplicity by
Turner Mfg. Co. Port Washington, Wisconsin, 3 HP, S/N JJ6918, 475
RPM. He believes the colors to be dark green for the engine, yellow
lettering, red base, is this right? Also would like the year of
mfg. He says the Simplicity is rare in California.

GEORGE M. LAMMERS, 1801 Seminary, Alton, Illinois 62002,
618-462-5596 is a new member of the Gas Engine Family and owns a 1
HP Sandow engine. He comments: ‘In that my grandfather modified
the engine to fit in his machine shop, I would appreciate it if any
readers having information, manuals to lend, etc. would correspond
with me in order that I can restore this engine back to its
original condition. I would appreciate any help I can get to
restore this engine.’

For help in identification, we’ve included all three of the
views (above) which DAI DAVIES sent featuring his mysterious
Fairbanks engine.

‘I have just bought a Fairbanks marine engine and I am
wondering if any of your readers could help me with the following
questions: Does the Fairbanks Co. still exist or any firm that
might have taken them over? Is there any source of borrowing a
manual or catalog for the engine? (If you want to buy one,
perhaps you could run a want ad
.) I would be very grateful to
hear from anyone who could give me any details on this type of
engine. The information I have is Fairbanks Co. (New York), two
stroke marine engine, Number MB 6426, 4-6 HP, Date 1914?’
(If you can help, please write DAI DAVIES, Y Crofft,
Carnhedryn, St. Davids, Dyfed, SA 62 6XT, G.B.)

According to Charles H. Wendel’s new American
Gasoline Engines Since 1872
, there was a Fairbanks Company
in New York, New York which marketed but did not
manufacture engines. In addition, there was a
Fairbanks-Grant Manufacturing Company in Ithaca, New York which did
produce two-cycle marine engines and boats. Neither of these firms
had a corporate connection to the Fairbanks-Morse Company or to
each other. The photo seems to clearly read ‘The Fairbanks Co.,
New York on the plate, but it is hard to see.)

I’ll take this opportunity to remind the readers that the
column is for the interchange of ideas and letters, suggestions,
stories, bits of interest to the gas engine buffs. I cannot mention
parts, books, etc.-anything that should go in the classified want
ads. I’m sure if you think about I you will understand it is
not fair to the advertiser. So, if you’re really interested in
parts or items, please send along an ad also. That is why
sometimes, your letters are not printed in entirety.

‘I have received more than 20 letters which have been very
helpful, on my request for help for my Standard garden tractor. I
have answered some and will answer all the rest. While I know I do
not have all the literature available from what I can gather, I was
sent a considerable amount of data. I will be glad to share it with
those who have a need for it. Thanks again for your help!’
(If you need assistance on this tractor, please get in touch
with
JIM BEAUCHAMP, 27855 W. California, Lathrup Village,
Michigan 48076 and he’ll share his info with you.)

Expressing enthusiasm for an unknown engine is this missive from
an engine club, sent by RALPH HENDRICKSON, Box 55, Nineveh, New
York 13813: ‘The July/August issue of GEM
sparked this article. The boys got busy and let Engine Land know
that the Southern Tier Antique Engine Club had a few noticeable
pieces of old iron. We got a few letters which made us real
proud.

‘This time we are enclosing a photo that will stump the best
of them. This engine is owned by Kermit Wingard of Box 3329,
Windsor, New York 13865 and has been shown at numerous shows, with
the same result! Nobody knows what it is!

‘Kermit has been around a long time and knows his engines.
This one has him stumped, as well as his very good friend Ernest
Pease of Box 160, Harpursville, New York 13787. Kermit said not to
forget Ernie because he would feel better if Engine Land knew
another authority on old engines was also puzzled.

‘Kermit rescued this old engine from a creek bed where it
had lain for a couple of generations. Some engine buffs believe
that it is a homemade engine and there is not another one like it.
It may be one of a kind.

‘Does anyone know of another engine with a wooden camshaft?
This engine looks very much like an experimental hunk of iron. Why
the wooden camshaft? Was it a pattern for other engines that were
never made?

‘Our club members believe that we have everybody in the
other clubs stumped. It will be interesting to find out. All
letters will be brought to the Tri-Towne Satellite Club branch of
the Southern Tier Antique Engine Club which is a maintenance club
that holds educational meetings. These letters will be good subject
material.’ (If you find out what it is, fellows, please
pass it on to us for the column.
)

I’m sure you will want to share in the project of a new
subscriber who writes: ‘I am currently writing a history of the
pioneer gas engine company in St. Johns, Michigan-Richmond &
Holmes. This firm made engines 1896-1904 when they sold out to the
Maude Windmill Co. in Lansing, Michigan. I have searched, with no
luck, for some collector who might have a Richmond engine. Have you
ever seen or heard of anyone who has one? I am interested in all
the old makes of gas engines made in Michigan. Will appreciate your
help!’ If you can acknowledge this request please write CHARLES
E. HULSE, 2513 Thomas Street, Flint, Michigan 48504.

Sending up smoke signals for aid, this writing comes from MIKE
SERNAL, 677 Briarcliff Drive, San Jose, California 95123: ‘I
need some help!! Over the past several years, I have completely
restored a 3 HP Fairbanks Morse Z engine. I used
GEM ads to come up with several hard to find
parts.

‘Now that I have the engine back together, I cannot get it
to run. I would like to correspond with someone out there who knows
something about this one. Mine is the early Type Z engine with a
Sumpter plug oscillator, make and break ignition and overflow
carburetor mounted on the side of the head. I can get the engine to
fire, run 3 or 4 pops and then it floods. I have followed the
directions in the instruction books regarding starting this engine
but it still floods. Can you help me?’

‘First, let me say that I am getting inquiries from my ad
for gear-making which was in the For Sale section,’ says MERL
BARNES, 7013 North-view Street, Boise, Idaho 83704.

Merl continues as he describes what he considers a very unusual
set of circumstances: ‘Recently, I visited Oscar’s
Dreamland near Billings, Montana. Oscar Cooke has a great
collection of antique tractors, engines, etc., nicely restored.
There are a lot of big tractors.

‘Among them, I found a big old four cylinder Huber. I am
sure that it came from my home town of Yates Center, Kansas. It
belonged to a machinist and welder, Ray Stoll. Ray had the only
machine shop in town for many years. He leased his shop to another
man for a few years, because of health. He bought a 30-60 Hart-Parr
and a 32-54 Case threshing machine from my dad. He later bought the
big Huber. He removed the single carburetor and built individual
carburetors for each cylinder. Also built a lower speed gear in the
transmission, than the factory low gear. The factory gear speed was
too fast for pulling a road grader under some conditions. Oscar
said he got the Huber at Joplin, Missouri. Also, Mr. Cooke said he
had been acquainted with Ray Stoll.’ (Small world,
isn’t it? Bet that was like seeing an old friend
again.)

ROLAND CORTELYOU, 325 Duffy Avenue, Hicksville, New York 11801
had a letter in the July-August issue and is elated that Ray
Twillman of Marthasville, Mo. identified the tow engine as a Phelps
Car. He says when he saw the name, it was immediately remembered.
Now, he would like to know if someone could send him pictures or
info or where he could see a Phelps Car.

Enclosing a picture of his Power Chief grist mill purchased from
Sears in 1922, ALEX MAG-DALENO, 71 Lori Lane, Camarillo, California
93010 needs to know the serial number for this engine. It appears
that something was bolted to the plate underneath the discharge
chute. What was the purpose of the mechanisms under the pulley?

Alex also writes: ‘I am also restoring a Novo 3 HP Model S.
I believe it was built before 1921. The things that make it appear
to be older than other Novos I have seen are its one piece cast
iron carburetor and its lack of the crankcase breather. It just has
a cast iron plate with holes in it that bolts above the backside
main bearing cap. I would like to hear from anyone who has an old
one like this. The nameplate is missing and I need to know S/N and
age of this unit.’

ROBERT KUBISCH, 2111 Gilbride, R.D., Martinsville, New Jersey
08836 notifies us of a recently purchased gas engine: ‘I need
information as the plate reads-Root & Vandervoort Engineering
Co., East Moline, Illinois USA pat’d July 14, 1903-May 3, 1904,
#BL 14051, speed 450 RPM, HP 2, manufactured for the John Deere
Plow Co., Baltimore, Maryland.

The engine was mounted on a Jaeger cement mixer which sat
outside for 36 years. It is badly rusted, but I have it totally
disassembled with the exception of the piston. The engine has a hit
and miss governor, is igniter-fired using a battery and coil for
spark. I would like to restore it to its original condition. I need
color, pin striping and the year of manufacture. Any other
assistance will be appreciated. Let me hear from those R & V
collectors. I will answer all letters and refund postage. Thank
you!’

BILL GROWCOCK, 1312 Kathy Street, Van Wert, Ohio 45891 has
recently acquired a gas engine and would like to correspond with
anyone with information about it. It is a water-cooled, 1 HP, 600
RPM, S/N 5645, manufactured by Reeves Pulley Co. in Columbus,
Indiana. It has igniter and battery for ignition. He would like to
know year of mfg., color of paint and pinstriping. Also, did this
engine have a crankshaft cover?

KEN HOLLENBECK, 312 Gillett Avenue, Waukegan, Illinois 60085
would be delighted to hear from the readers if they could supply
him with much needed information on a Delco 32 volt, 750 watt power
plant. He especially needs an electrical wiring diagram or drawing
showing how the generator, control panel, batteries, etc. were
connected. He also is interested in what type of ignition coil and
fuel pump this engine used.

WARWICK TURNER, Mgr., Pioneer Settlement, Horseshoe Bend, Swan
Hill, Victoria Australia 3585 sends a letter in reference to the
restoration of a Saunderson tractor. He will be pleased to hear
from the readers with the necessary data. Contents of the letter
follows:

‘Swan Hill Pioneer Settlement is located adjacent to the
Murray River, at Swan Hill, Victoria, Australia, and is the oldest
living history museum in Australia. Recently Pioneer Settlement has
commenced another phase of its early tractor restoration programs
and approximately six tractors will be restored to working
condition, including a rare three wheel tractor constructed by H.
P. Saunderson and Company of Elstow Works, Bedford, England.

‘Our researcher has so far not been able to ascertain very
many details about this early tractor, except that it is believed
to be the first tractor assembled in South Australia and that it
was originally purchased in 1908. It is also understood that the
operation of the tractor was not particularly successful.

‘We are therefore desirous of locating any person who could
assist in providing us with mechanical details, early photographs,
drawings, operational manual or personal experience in operating
the Saunderson tractor, with the objective of developing our
knowledge so that we can accurately restore the tractor.

‘For readers’ interest the tractor is mounted on three
wheels (similar in construction to a steam traction engine’s
cleated wheel, but much smaller) all of which are driven-the rear
by a chain drive and the two front ones by shaft and bevel gears.
The engine is 4 cylinders- independent water jacketed. The only
number found on the tractor is U.231. Telephone 050-321093. Telex
AA55314.

‘I want to thank Roger Alumbaugh of Boswill, Pa. who wrote
to me in reference to my Red E tractor,’ comments ROY WHITLEY,
3312 Ellis Road, Rockford, Illinois 61103.

‘I have another old outfit called a Jari Products, Inc.,
Minn. 8 Minnesota, Mach. No. 29423. It’s a sickle bag mower and
is in running order. It does a good job of cutting. It had bad
points in it but I took care of that little problem and now it runs
good. I’d like to hear from anyone who might know about this
machine. It sat a long time in a barn without being used. I need
the year of mfg. and color of original paint.’

JODY PYSHER, R.D. #3, Box 3436, Bangor, Pennsylvania 18013 sends
this: ‘I have recently acquired most of a Jackson gas engine,
Type A, 1 HP, #86714, Jackson, Michigan U.S.A. I have never seen
one of these engines at a show in my area and would like some
information. It is a horizontal hit and miss type with the governor
in the flywheel. I would like to know what kind of carburetor,
ignition system and what the main bearing caps may have looked
like. Also would appreciate knowing about the company that built
the engine and what color it was.’

A note comes from a new subscriber, B. L. SEARS, 4237 United
Street, Greensboro, North Carolina 27407: ‘My young collection
consists of a 2 HP Ottawa log saw engine and a 5 HP Majestic. And I
have to restore a silage chopper. The 9 x 15 inch cast nameplate
reads-Sinclair & Co. Manufacturers Baltimore Patented 1853
Improved 1868 11 In. I would be interested in corresponding with
anyone regarding this item.’

Delighted with his new hobby, W. O. BAILEY, 1160 E. Columbus
Street, Martinsville, Indiana 46151 confides: ‘I am 70 years
old and did not have Engine Fever until attending the Portland show
last year. Since then I have collected seven engines including an
International LA and a Stover CT1 and Briggs Z.

‘Yesterday I found one I need help in identifying. The only
thing on it is the letters CTV cast in the water hopper and AC on
the governor rod. It has a 4′ bore and 6′ stroke, 18′
flywheels, open crank, hit and miss and make and break ignition.
I’d be pleased with any help that may be sent this
way.’

‘I have a few questions for those who may know about the
Sears Economy saw rig,’ comments TIM STEWART, Route 2, Box 632,
Paso Robles, California 93446.

He continues, ‘What is the Dupont paint color for Economy
red? Is the saw rig red? What would the HP be with a 5
5/8‘ bore and 34′ diameter flywheels?
As you may have guessed, there is no nameplate or S/N. Would it be
possible to date this engine? Were there any casting design changes
or modifications to indicate the approximate vintage? I’ll
answer all letters.’

I would like to mention here that quite a few readers write
and are unhappy about the fact that they have answered letters for
those folks who ask for help, but never hear from them at all. If
someone is going to the effort to assist you with your problem, the
least you can do is drop him a line and thank him. You’re both
interested in the same hobby, so share and care and enjoy.

Perhaps you would like to share in the new venture of FRANCIS J.
CARDAMONE, 160 Canal Street, Staten Island, New York 10304 who
reveals the following: ‘I am developing a museum which will be
dedicated to early 19th century and early 20th century trade
industrial machinery. My 10 year plan is to set up a working museum
of restored machines on line with shafting and pulleys so that
people can see and appreciate the tradework done by Americans
around the turn of the century.

‘I am trying to locate machines of the woodworking, foundry,
metal working-including sheet metal and tinsmithing, stone cutting
and masonry, printing and bookbinding, glass working-bevelling and
grinding, blacksmithing, electrical generators and lighting
equipment and other items of greater or lesser obscurity. I am sure
that the readership of GEM could assist me in
saving at least a few of these iron soldiers. They served America
and now every day their ranks are thinned by their being taken off
to scrap yards.

‘The plan for phase one is acquisition and restoration; no
actual displays yet, but that will come in time. Thank you for any
help you can give me.’

‘Recently I acquired an old 4 cylinder engine and I would
appreciate any specifications, age of engine, horsepower and
RPM,’ mentions H. B. VANDEN BERG, 1409 Satsuma Street,
Clearwater, Florida 33516.

‘This engine is frozen, but otherwise complete. The radiator
is all brass and is marked LeRoi in raised letters on the header
tank. A data plate on the left side reads: Fuller & Johnson
Mfg. Co., Madison, Wisconsin. No. 500106, HP is blank. Gargoyle
Mobiloil ‘A’ summer, Gargoyle Mobiloil Arctic winter or
high grade of similar body. Also stamped in very small letters on
the very bottom right corner is CS-260. The intake manifold marked
BC 115, magneto marked F.M. Bottom of cast iron oil pan BCR 557,
head marked BC-3. (Assistance will be gratefully
received.)’

‘I’m hoping someone can give me a little info on a
tractor called Centaur made in Greenwich, Ohio, Model KV, S/N
539574 with engine #135211,’ states WILLIAM ROURKE, 41524 Biggs
Road, Lagrange, Ohio 44050.

He continues: ‘The crank start is on rubber and has place
for electric starter which probably was a deluxe model extra. I
would like to find out about the year it was made, paint coloring
and I wonder if anyone would lend me a manual to look at regarding
this little tractor.

‘Your GEM copies are exciting and
informative. They certainly do make you think of those so-called
‘good old days’.’

MICHAEL BURDGE, 1229 Huntington Road, Stratford, Connecticut
06497 would like to air a few statements about his recently
acquired huge Fairbanks Morse. It is on original trucks. The tag is
missing, but MICHAEL says, ‘I believe it to be an 8 or 10 HP.
What I am trying to find out is the type and age. It must be fairly
old because it has an igniter.

‘One thing that I am not certain of is the carburetion
because it has two carburetors, one on the front of the head and
one on the side. So, I believe one was for water injection so it
could be run on kerosene, but I am not sure.

‘I have a hunch it might be a Type H because inside the
water hopper is cast in big letters FM on both sides. The flywheels
measure 42′ in diameter and have the casting numbers ZE13. The
piston bore is 7′ and stroke is 9′. Any help would be so
appreciated.’

A newcomer, GARY F. WHITE, Route 9, Box 336B, Elizabethton,
Tennessee 37643 informs us:

‘As a beginner of this fascinating hobby, I have found your
magazine to be very helpful. However, I need some help! I recently
purchased two gas engines. One is a vertical air-cooled engine
called The ‘New Way’ Model-A, Type C, 3 HP, No. 6687. I
have not been able to obtain the original color of the engine. Are
the flywheels a different color from the rest of the engine? What
color are the raised letters on the flywheels? I also need date of
manufacturing.

‘The second engine I own is a Hercules, #141499, RPM 550, HP
1 E. Here again I cannot find the original color. I know it is a
shade of green, but I need the exact color code. I also need date
of manufacturing.

‘I would be very grateful if your readers are able to
furnish me with some information.’

If you’d like to help another collecter perhaps you could
write to BOB BURKE, 775 Lakeshore Drive, Tallahassee, Florida
32312. Phone 904-385-6676. ‘I recently bought a small burr mill
that needs some identification. On the burr housing is stamped #1
Mill Patented April 8, 1878-April 30, 1880. On the two upright
braces that hold the feed hopper are #242, on the legs #241 and on
the 5-spoked flywheel is 1. Color could be yellow. I would enjoy
Rearing from anyone who could help me advertise for needed parts in
GEM.

‘It’s been a long time since I have written,’
exclaims HARRY RITTER, Box 127, Route 5, Fulton, New York 13069. He
has been retired for a few years and owns an Empire engine.

Harry continues: ‘The Empire needs battery ignition, how can
I improvise? Did you know there was an Edson pump engine made in
Boston? This engine is the same as the Fuller-Johnson pump engine
down to the last nut, bolt or screw. It was battery buzz coil
ignition.

‘I have had several letters regarding the magnet charger,
mostly good. To those who made them, I am glad they worked. I never
made one myself but am in the process now. I am going to try more
windings. I am told the more windings the stronger the magnetism.
Many of the letters have been to inquire more about charging mags.
All I can give is my theory as I have had little experience in this
field. Write anyhow, maybe I can help. Much of my information has
come from you engine people. This, I try to pass on. What good does
it do to keep it to oneself?’

LEROY WONDER, Danbury, Iowa 51019, 712-883-2517 writes and sends
us a picture with his letter: ‘This is our M.M. UDLX
Comfortractor and our ‘R’ M.M. with cab. These are both
very rare tractors- the R Moline is a common tractor, but the cab
is very rare. I spent a great deal of time and money on these two
tractors and I am very proud of them now. This picture was taken at
the Albert City Threshermen & Collectors Iowa Show in August
1981.

There were 150 M.M. Comfortractors made, all in 1938. Standard
equipment included radio, heater, cigar lighter and ash tray, full
instruments with speedometer, gas gauge, etc. two glove
compartments, horn in steering wheel, two seats, rear hubcaps,
bumper, fenders etc. Lights include dome light, spot light tail
light, stop light, headlights with dimmer switch, dash lights.
Tractor had a headliner in roof and would go 40 MPH. Also had rear
view mirror with clock in mirror, sun visor, fan. MODERN!! And they
also had three windshield wipers!’

A few questions come from BRIAN W. KEIS, 33159 Townshipline
Road, R.R. 1, Matsqui, B.C., Canada V0X 1S0: ‘I have been
receiving GEM for four years. Now, I would
appreciate some help from your readers regarding some specific
items:

‘1. I own a 10-20 Titan which is under restoration. I would
like to know the shade of grey paint used on these tractors.

‘2. The next two items are owned by my dad. We have a Gibson
Model ‘I’ tractor, 6 cyl. Hercules motor, approximately 40
HP, built about 1950. If possible we would like to know how many
were made and the year of this one, S/N IE 1299 and any data
regarding this tractor. What are the correct shades of red and
yellow used on them? Would like to correspond with anyone else who
has Gibsons.

‘3. I hope someone can help us with this one-an ‘R &
P’ tractor, built in Alma, Michigan between 1918 and 1920. Only
information we have is in C. H. Wendel’sEncyclopediaofAmerican Farm Tractors. What model of Eiseman
magneto was built between 1918 & 1920-4 cyl? This tractor is
missing 90% of all the sheet metal on it as we have only the hood.
We would like to know anything and everything about this tractor.
Need to pattern fenders and side covers for it. We would really
appreciate corresponding with anyone who owns, owned or knows about
these tractors. Could anyone tell us the exact colors of this
tractor, yellow and red, I do believe. They used a
‘Thurston’ rear end on them.

‘4. Does anyone know the shades of red and green as used on
Case steam tractors? Thank you for any assistance.’

JESSE R. VINEY, 3102 Boston Avenue, Pascagoula, Mississippi
39567 has a Gladden 8 HP engine on a riding mower made in
California by the Gladden Products Corp. Does anyone have any
information on it? The Model No. is BB-2-146, 2′ Bo &
3’S. It looks like a John Deere, but I have been to two John
Deere dealers and they say No. Anyone know anything else about this
mower?’ ‘I have a question which I sure hope someone can
answer for me,’ writes DENNIS HALVERSON, Box 244, Moose Lake,
Minnesota 55767.

‘My New Holland book says that their engines were painted
Turkey Red. What I need to know is if there is presently a paint
which closely resembles this or if there are two paints which can
be mixed for the proper color. I have only seen a few New Hollands
and the paint jobs on them varied so widely that I don’t really
know what is correct.’

The public relations staff at Sperry New Holland cordially
responded to this inquiry with a:

RECIPE FOR TURKEY RED

(enough to paint 1 engine)

2 Qts. Ditzler Red Enamel #DQE71659. Add 10 teaspoons Ditzler
green mixer #DME110. Add 7 tsps. regular black enamel

Like all paint, the turkey red will darken with age, but
this should give you the correct base to start with!

A few words to make you think and wonder if any could possibly
refer to you. . .The world is divided into two classes; those who
go ahead and do something and those who sit and inquire, ‘Why
wasn’t it done this way?’. . .Everything is WRONG that is
ALMOST RIGHT. . .A fault-mender is better than a faultfinder-. .
.Bad habits are like a comfortable bed-easy to get into, but hard
to get out of . . That’s about it for this time, last chat with
you this year, take care of yourself, have a Happy Holiday Season,
do lots of good turns for folks, helps them and makes your heart
sing! Love Ya All!. . .

GEMuinely, Anna Mae

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