Hi! I hope all the Gas Engine Family is feeling fine and ready
for Spring- it’s just around the corner-and we have so many
communications that I will not take up any more space-sooo
WILLIAM L. BAILLET, Route 1, Box 112, Ogdenburg, New York 13669
has a problem and wonders if anyone can help. He is trying to
remove the crankshaft from two ball bearing engines-I.H.C. Would
like to know if anyone knows the proper way to remove the main
bearings from the crank and the block at the same time. He has
manuals and parts books on other tractors but they do not give any
information on this problem.
‘I need help in restoring an old Orchard sprayer made by the
Hardie Manufacturing Company of Hudson, Michigan. It is powered by
a Stover Power Unit Type MV5, speed 1250, No. VB 233030 R. It is
mounted on four wheels and the tank on sprayer is made of wood. The
engine and pump are under a type of hood that might have been on a
car or truck of the 1930s. Info as to color, year or anything about
the company would be greatly received.’ Write KEITH JACKSON,
RR#2, Valley Falls, Kansas 66088.
‘I need help with a few of my engines,’ says G. E.
HOUSTON, Route 1, Box 43, Couderay, Wisconsin 54828. He continues:
‘First I have a Bulls eye 2 HP gas engine, sideshaft, S/N 5930.
Apparently, this is a rare engine as I have not been able to find
any info about it. Would like to know who made it, what year,
etc.
I also have a Fairbanks Morse 6 HP Model Z and a F.M. 1 HP Model
Z headless. Am having troubles with both of these and could use
help from someone experienced with these engines.’
TOM MILKE, 6936 Knickerbocker, Ontario, New York 14519 has two
New Way uprights, 5 HP and would like to know when they were built;
Model CH S/N CT0784C and Model CH, S/N C10170? What did the gas
tank look like? What are the directions on top of the CT0784C
supposed to read, because it is different from the other
engine?
‘Also, I have a standard Monarch. The tag doesn’t seem
to be original #45277, is it? It has wooden handles. Intake
manifold part number is E41183.’
Our ads bring many responses to our readers needs, but FRED
HENDRICKSON, Box 194 Snake Meadow Hill, Moosup, Connecticut 06354,
is disappointed in that no one answered his ads and he feels sure
there is someone who has the information that he needs. He wants
history, literature, reprints or anything pertaining to Kewanee 10
HP S/N 6297 horizontal tank-cooled gasoline engine with igniter and
Summter low tension mag. Also would like the same thing with
exception of history of an Abenaque 6 HP, S/N 1369 hopper-cooled,
truck mounted sliding table saw rig with Webster tri-polar and
igniter mounted into the front of the head. So please, if you have
that information, contact him. He had this in classified ads
previously.
This bit of chit-chat comes from BRAD DADO, 544 Chestnut Lane,
Box 621, Beecher, Illinois 60401: ‘Hi! I need some help again
from my good buddies in Engineland. I have acquired a HP Associated
engine, S/N 18183. It is completely disassembled and sand blasted.
Before assembly and painting, I will have to replace and rework a
new connecting rod for this engine. I would like to know what color
the engine was painted and color of ‘I read in every issue of
our fantastic publication of new and younger people getting into
the hobby of engine collecting. I would like to relay a bit of
advice to these young people. When bidding on engines at auctions
be sure to check them thoroughly and don’t rely on the sellers
word, as to the condition of the engine
‘This is my model B Allis Chalmers S/N B60868. I got it from
my father, Gordon, who collects tractors. It is on steel wheels and
is hand-cranked. I have restored it back to its original condition
although I have removed the lugs from the wheels and bolted on
rubber for road use. This picture was taken during the 1982 Oceana
County National Asparagus Parade. I am interested in hearing from
anyone with a tractor like mine and would like to know how many
were built on steel,’ says SCOTT G. AEBIG, 365 South Hawley,
Shelby, Michigan 49455.
ELSNER MACHACEK, 714 Union Street, Northfield, Minnesota 55057
needs to hear from you. He is working on a Fairbanks Morse Type Z,
1 HP, 1500 RPM gas engine. He needs help with the magneto timing.
There is a hole in the upper crank case cover to accommodate the
mag gear through it. The mag gear has an arrow on it and the cam
gear has an X on the rim. On top of the small flywheel it has two
marks across it.
We hear from GLENN SHAFFER, Route 1 Co. Rd. 300W, Columbia City,
Indiana 46725 and he is a newcomer to the engine collecting hobby:
‘I have just acquired a pump made by the Premier Engineering
Company and I would like to know the color, year of manufacture and
if there is any service literature on the pump. S/N 19215. Anyone
know the complete address of the Premier Engineering Co? The
nameplate says it is Dayton, Ohio.
‘Is the Elgin Wheel and Engine Company still in business and
what would be the address? Where can I get an engine paint that
looks like the crystal black enamel that was used originally on the
Maytag Multi-Motor? Where are the decals located on the single and
twin cylinder Maytag Multi-Motors?’
(Glenn was also hoping someone could lend him a copy of
The New Maytag Multi-Motor Engine which was put
out by Maytag.)
GEORGE L. RATHBUN, Industrial Arts Department Chairman, Toll
Gate High School, 575 Centerville Road, Warwick, Rhode Island 02886
needs help from our readers: ‘Can you supply any information on
the principle and operation of the fuel pump for a type ‘M’
3 HP kerosene skidded (600 RPM) International Harvester engine?
‘The Serial Number is B-50235 and was manufactured in 1923.
We have the engine running only by pouring fuel into the
carburetor. The fuel pump does not function. We suspect that there
must be some parts missing. Perhaps some sort of check valve since
there are no moving parts visible or presently existing in the body
of the fuel pump.’
‘I am new to the engine collecting hobby and have seven
engines. The oldest is a 1927 1 HP John Deere but as for the others
I am guessing at their ages. I would like help as to dates of
manufacture on the following engines: International LB 1-2 HP S/N
107316. It has wooden skids that look older than the metal skids I
have seen on other engines. A Fairbanks-Morse 2 HP Model Z, S/N
861545-this engine is very hard to start with the crank and I
usually end up starting it with a belt from another engine. How old
is it and did it use a muffler? I have a Briggs & Stratton
Model Y S/N 162137 Type 60535. I have a book on this one that tells
they were made from 1931-1939. Can anyone give me the correct year?
It has #35 on flywheel and head bolts. What are the dimensions of
the fuel tank and where was it placed? It has a 3 stage V belt
pulley, what was the original one? It starts extremely hard with
the pedal, doesn’t seem to get enough gas. A Witte Diesel, no
plate for HP, etc. Bore 4′ stroke 6′. Open valves, springs
and stems. Horizontal engine with one flywheel that has 2 V belt
grooves in it. Would also appreciate the color scheme of any of the
above engines.’ (This letter is from MONTE SHOCK-MAN, 5021 Peg
Street, Boise, Idaho 83705.)
‘I would like to seek some help from any gas engine
‘nuts’ who can find time to drop a note to me,’ states
GLENN W. KIRTON, Bracebridge, Ontario, Canada POB 1CO.
‘I have two pieces of equipment on which I need help. First,
is a 2 cylinder, 2 cycle horizontal opposed Ellis engine S/N A095,
12 HP. It was built in Detroit, Michigan. Has a separate water tank
mounted on skids and two fuel tanks, one kerosene and one gasoline
for starting. It has a Wico Model S.D. double magneto and a Detroit
Model G lubricator. Governors are Pickering flyball type. I would
appreciate any help as to how to start this engine and also the
approximate age of it.
The second item is a E. G. STAUDE tractor built in St. Paul,
Minnesota. It appears to be a Model T chassis with a one yard dump
box built on it. It was first used here for golf course maintenance
and has knobby flat rear wheels with smooth front wheels. It has
original floor boards and factory running boards.
‘I will answer all letters and anyone interested in the
Sylvester railway engine, used on ‘speeders’, I have
manuals and will try to help them.
‘I would like to take this opportunity to ‘Thank
You’ for an excellent magazine. It is a welcome break to read
of the experiences of other people who are interested in this
fascinating hobby.’
MARK SERFASS, 2625 Newbury Road, Easton, Pennsylvania 18042
would like to talk to anyone who has a Messinger gas engine made in
Tatamy, Pennsylvania. He says, ‘I have started an owner’s
list and have over thirty engines so far. I would like to know S/N,
HP, running condition, on a base or not, on a buggy and size, where
originally purchased? All of the information is held confidential
and only released if the owners so wish.’
Also, Mark sent along a Hunt the Engine Name game. I’m sure
you folks familiar with puzzles know how to work these. There are
19 names. See what you can do! Vertical, diagonal, horizontal,
backwards, etc.:
A call for HELP comes from BOB FITZGERALD, 1778 West Jackson
Street, Painesville, Ohio 44077: ‘I am 14 years old and this is
my first attempt at restoring a hit and miss-really like their
bark. This engine is believed to be a Fairbanks Morse S/N 375875,
1919. It was a ‘basket case’ when I got it but with help of
my gramps and two friends, we have it part way back together. We
need to know what the linkage looks like-there has to be a sending
device from the governor to the mag as well as rocker arm to tell
the engine when to hit and when to miss. This we know, but what
they look like or how they attach is a mystery to us.
‘Enclosed is a photo of engine, less one flywheel. Any help
in describing or drawings of these will be greatly
appreciated-we’re floundering.’ (And then he says Thanks to
G.E.M. and that he reads his gramp’s magazine
from cover to cover as soon as he gets it.)
ROBERT C. GUIRY, 35 Homestead Park, Needham Heights,
Massachusetts 02194 is looking for some help with his Bull Dog
engine made by Bates & Edmonds Motor Co., Lansing, Michigan. It
is a 2 HP and has 2-16′ flywheels, 6 spokes, 2 &
1/8‘ face on the wheels. He would like to
know the color and did it have a carburetor and what kind-also what
kind of ignition?
‘Following my recent article, would like to ask your readers
one or two questions,’ states DON MACMILLAN,
‘Whiterig’, Etchilhampton, Devizes, Wilts, England SN10
3JY.
‘I am interested to find out the correct color of Waterloo
Boy tractors pre-1918 when Deere bought the company. I fortunately
acquired both a 1919 and 1921 Full Line John Deere General
Catalogue recently, so have color plates of the tractors for these
two years. In 1919 the engine and gear box is dark red, by 1921 the
whole tractor had become green and yellow except the hub caps and
lettering.
‘Would any reader have a photo of the Waterloo Boy Model
L-LA motor, 2 cyl. horizontally opposed tractor; 29 of which were
made in 1914, January to June, before the R went into
production?
‘My other question concerns combines. I have loaned to our
Science Museum 12 of my collection of 26 J.D.s 1922-1962 and they
also have a 36 combine which was mine. We are now researching
pre-war combines and would be interested to hear from anyone who
has early John Deere, Caterpillar, Holt or Case combines, or any
literature referring to them.’
ROBERT O. STEVENS, R.D. 2, Box 143A, Marathon, New York 13803
sends us this picture and tells us: ‘I bought a Novo 2 cylinder
upright with a radiator. It appears to be complete but I don’t
have any idea as to year or color or anything. The engine does run,
no I.D. tag on it. Please help! Will answer.’
MAX W. LEMMONS, 6034 S. Walnut Street, Wichita, Kansas 67217
sends this communication: ‘I have an upright Cushman engine
Model 44-No. 1798, 8 HP, RPM 7-900. I would like to know the date
of manufacturing, color and what type of cooling did it have and
where is the gas tank located?
‘I also have a Lauson, speed 500, 2 HP, No. WA 63664 with
solid flywheels. It has a Wico mag. What year was this engine made?
What color is it supposed to be and where is the gas tank supposed
to be?
‘I wonder how many engines were lost in Missouri, Arkansas
and Louisiana due to the floods in December?’ (Any answers
Fellas- let him know.)
Questions-a-plenty to answer DON PADGETT, R.R. 2, Box 166,
Rising Sun, Indiana 47040: ‘I just purchased an old engine and
am in need of much information on it. It is an Alpha made by the
DeLaval Separator Co. It is a type E 172, HP W 1 at 525 RPM No.
66423. The engine will run and I plan to restore it. I would
appreciate any data as to the original color, type of magneto and
where was it mounted on the engine? When was it manufactured? Where
were these engines used in the beginning?
‘I really do enjoy the magazine. All of each issue is read.
Much helpful information has been found on its pages. My sixth
grade students are developing an appreciation for the magazine and
gasoline engines.’
‘Pictured is the engine that my Dad found for me last summer
after buying a baler from a lady that was selling old equipment.
After getting it home I looked it all over and there are no
markings on it except Bosch cast in the mag. There is a bit of
black paint left on it. The crankcase is aluminum. Has anybody got
one like it? If anyone knows anything about these engines, please
let me know.’ Contact ROBERT A. HAMILTON, L15 C2 Brantford, Rr
3 Paris, Ont. Canada N3L 3E3.
RAYMOND FORRER, Box 43, Somonauk, Illinois 60552, phone
815-498-2013 has a request for the Smoke Ring readers. He is
starting a registry of Sandwich and New Idea engines and would
appreciate hearing from anyone owning either one. ‘I need
serial numbers, horsepower, type of ignition and names and
addresses, also would like definite proof of the age of engine. All
Sandwich records were destroyed many years ago, so all we can do is
guess as to year made. For those who don’t have a serial plate,
all these engines were stamped with the s.n. on the pulley end of
the crankshaft.’
