REFLECTIONS

By Staff
Published on March 1, 1995
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The RED SEAL Continental Industrial Engine, Power Unit, Model P10, right-hand side with cover removed, is shown at left; RED SEAL Continental Industrial Engine Model Y2, exterior view, right-hand side, is shown at right.
The RED SEAL Continental Industrial Engine, Power Unit, Model P10, right-hand side with cover removed, is shown at left; RED SEAL Continental Industrial Engine Model Y2, exterior view, right-hand side, is shown at right.
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With this issue, we have the details regarding the 1995 GEM Tour
to Ger many and other countries. It will come in at about $2,500
per person, including airfare from New York or Chicago. (See
further details about the trip on page 7). Although some might wish
for more engine and tractor collections, we believe that Wade Farm
Tours has done an excellent job of balancing out the tour so that
there are attractions for everyone. The tour packet is now ready,
and is available from GEM. If you’re interested, give them a
call and we’re sure you will agree that this is a fine trip,
and very reasonably priced.

We’re very short on correspondence this month … no doubt
everyone was busy with the Holidays. Perhaps it’s true that
even engines and tractors take a backseat to Santa Claus!

Our first query is:

30/3/1 An Old Garden Tractor

Q. See the photos of an old garden tractor;
there is no identifying information on any of the cast iron parts.
Any information on this old tractor and the engine would be greatly
appreciated. Robert Clauson, 3159 State Rte. 228, Alpine, NY
14805.

A. Can anyone identify this machine?

30/3/2 Information Needed

Q. What is the year built of a Witte 5 HP, s/n
B21705; Witte 6 HP, s/n 9264; and Fuller & Johnson 1 HP, s/n
94529? Vester A. Gillette, 412 N. Monroe, Olathe, KS 66061.

A. The years built are in order; 1925,
1913,1925.

30/3/3 Rumely Models

Edwin Bredemeier, Route 1, Box 13, Steinauer, NE 68441
writes:

The ‘A’ tricycle style Rumely Do All story brought back
memories of another Rumely tractor. At one time Rumely built two
models of a tractor that carried the plows under the tractor frame
and the plow could be detached, the seat flipped over and the
tractor could be used for drawbar and belt work. There used to be
one of these models owned by Bob Trauger of Exeter, Nebraska. Are
there any other models around?

Let’s hear about them through GEM; that way their records
will be permanent.

30/3/4 Waterloo BRONCO Tractors

A roster is being compiled of all Waterloo BRONCO tractor serial
numbers (found on dash plate) and the tractor owners in Canada and
the United States. This is a unique little tractor, only produced
during 1948-1950 by the Waterloo Manufacturing Company, Waterloo,
Ontario. They were distributed by Frick Company, Waynesboro,
Pennsylvania, as well as some Minneapolis-Moline dealers, and
dealers throughout Canada.

This listing would not be published, but each BRONCO owner who
responds would receive a copy. Write to Barbara Dawson, 6 Cormeck
Cres., Brace bridge, Ontario P1L 1R3 Canada to be included in this
interesting study.

30/3/5 Information Needed

Q. What is the year built of the following
engines: Stover CT1, s/n TA217348 and Taylor Vacuum, s/n14038?
Allan Lausher, 717 Oakley Ave., Joliet, IL 60436.

A. The Stover was built in 1933. Taylor
apparently began building these engines in the 1920s, but we have
no information on how long they were built.

30/3/6 An Old Tiller

Q. See the photo of an old tiller I found in a
junkyard. Can anyone provide information on it, including the make,
and when it was made? F. J. Leonardo, Route I, Box 496, Winnie, TX
77665.

30/3/7 F-M Model H

Q. I have a  H, as shown in the photo, s/n
154833. Any information on this engine would be greatly
appreciated. The carburetor and igniter are missing. Also, I need
to know about timing, and any other instructions or information on
this engine. Art England, 204 -216th SW, Bothell, WA 98021.

A. Specific information on the ‘H’
engines isn’t so easy to find, at least in our experience, but
if you can be of help, please do so.

30/3/8 Information Needed

Q. See the photo; it appears to be of a large
horizontal side shaft engine. The babbitt sleeve bearing on the
mounting plate is about 13/8 inches in
diameter. On the drive pulley housing behind the top half of the
brass throttle arm are letters ‘JDA’. On the opposite side
is a milled flat with a ‘Serial No.’ The governor balls are
2 inches and held by a flat leaf spring and move down rather than
up when they swing out. Any information on this photo would be
appreciated. Clem Te Bow, PO Box 1057, Meadow Vista, CO 95922.

30/3/9 Unidentified Engine

Q See the photos of an engine from a local
scrap yard It has no tag nor can we find any identification such as
casting numbers The closest thing is on page 388 of American Gas
Engines under Phelps Motor Company The engine has a 3 x 3 inch bore
and stroke and is equipped with a Kingston carburetor Any
information will be appreciated Dick Brown, 175 Sonnet Ln
Gilbertville, KY 42044.

30/3/10 Gardner-Denver Pump

Q. I have a Gardner-Denver air or steam engine,
2 x 3 x 2 inches, AB33, s/n 108116. The engine head is AB6; the
pump head says AB35; it’s a commercial water pump and engine
with four opposing cylinders. Any information or help on this
question would surely be appreciated, especially a manual or
something as to how it is lubricated, etc. Robert Stegman 1185 Bret
Harte Rd., Box 423, Angels Camp, CA 95222.

30/3/11 Olds Engine

Q. We have an Olds Type A, No. 1 engine, shop
no. F9941, 1 HP. Need to know the color scheme, recommended rpm,
and the best type of battery setup for the ignition. J. Otis
Mellenbruch, Route 5, Box 126, Rye, CO 81069.

30/3/12 Delco Plants

Thanks to Joe Janshen, 4975 E. Lamm Rd., Freeport, IL 61032 for
sending us a Delco-Light folder of 1927. It illustrates nine
different models, plus special units for use in telephone plants.
Also included are the Delco water systems and Frigidaire electric
refrigerators.

Ye olde Reflector still recalls getting roped into helping a
neighbor take out one of those old Frigidaire units with the
compressor in the basement. We decided to pinch off the copper
lines in two places, then cut in the middle so we could get
the compressor and the box separated, and then haul all of it out
side. We didn’t get one of them pinched off completely tight,
and this stinky stuff leaked into the basement before we got the
compressor hauled outside. In short, we sure did clear out the
house, and there weren’t any mice for at least six months!

A Closing Word

Next month we’ll likely have a great many questions … it
just seems to work that way sometimes. However, this gives us a
chance to include some interesting items within the column, such as
the Continental P10 power unit, also sold as the Y2 Industrial
motor.

A few of these are still around, they were capable of 8 to 14
horsepower with speeds varying from 1000 to 2200 rpm. Bore and
stroke dimensions were 35/8 x 4 inches for a
76 cid in this two-cylinder motor.

Also of interest is a linen tracing called ‘Horsepower at a
Glance’ showing the output for every 100 rpm in engine speed.
Perhaps this chart might be helpful for those instances when no
nameplate is left or the horsepower was not included on the
plate.

GEM readers might also find it of interest that Alamo built an
extensive line of Special Electric engines up to 120 horsepower. A
chart showing the entire line and specifications for same will be
found adjacent to this column. Also this month we include a factory
photo of an Alamo vertical with a pump unit. No information
accompanies the photo however.

Finally, we close this issue with information on the Alamo
(ALCO) drag saw, taken from a 1920 pamphlet. The brochure describes
the rig as follows: ‘The Alco one man drag saw outfit is
practical for the Farmer as well as the Woodsman, since the Engine
may also be used for all such work as buzzing limbs, grinding feed,
operating Milking Machines or Cream Separators, churning, pumping
water or any number of things around the farm, by merely throwing
off belt on large saw pulley and connecting to the machine you wish
to drive. No rusty burrs to unscrew; no bent and twisted cotter
pins to pull out. Handy two-wheel truck to move outfit from place
to place. Engine evenly balanced over axle, taking weight off
operator. Also eliminates all unnecessary vibration. A useful plant
to have around the farm.

‘Special Alco features . . . The ma chine cut gears are
protected by strong durable shield. An eccentric is built in the
large gear which gives the saw the same even rocking motion as if
done by hand. This eccentric keeps the saw dust cleaned away from
the saw and speeds up the cut making it a faster cutting
outfit.’

Alco specifications: 2 HP four cycle Alamo engine, easily
develops 3 HP; Webster oscillating magneto; suction feed type
carburetor; four inch, three ply waterproof belt; LaSure friction
clutch pulley; friction disc on saw bracket pulley; Disston saws,
five or six foot lengths; 20-inch truck wheels; 21 inch cutting
stroke; 200 strokes per minute normal, 150 strokes minimum, 250
strokes maximum; eccentric log hook clamps instantly; oil cured
Pitman; saws from 25 to 40 cords of wood per day.

We’ve never seen much material on the Alco, and presume it
didn’t go so far as the competing Ottawa and Witte drag saws.
Thus, we thought you folks might be interested in seeing some
photos and specs all in one place at the same time.

We’ll see you next month!

The purpose of the Reflections column is to provide a forum for
the exchange of all useful information among subscribers to GEM.
Inquiries or responses should be addressed to: 

REFLECTIONS, Gas Engine Magazine, P.O. Box 328,
Lancaster, PA 17608-0328.

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