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Courtesy of Carl I. Estler, 2659 Wellesley Drive, Saginaw, Michigan. 48603
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Courtesy of Carl I. Estler, 2659 Wellesley Drive, Saginaw, Michigan. 48603
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Courtesy of Stewart B. Kean, Elizabethtown Gas Company, One Elizabeth Plaza, Elizabeth, N. J. 07207
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Courtesy of Geralod Jacobson, 212 South Cedar Avenue, Marshfield, Wis. 54449.
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Courtesy of Roger L. Eshelman, Box 63, College Springs, Iowa 51637
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Courtesy of Roger L. Eshelman, Box 63, College Springs, Iowa 51637
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Courtesy of Robert J. Hayes, 2008 Summitt Avenue, Muscatine, Iowa 52761.
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Courtesy of Robert J. Hayes, 2008 Summitt Avenue, Muscatine, Iowa 52761

Ontario, N. Y, 14519

Our company, a gas utility founded in 1855 was recently given an
early water pump powered by a manufactured gas engine. The label on
the pump states the following: Crown Gas Pump manufactured by
N’T’L’. Meter Company, New York, patents in February 6,
May 22, November 27 and December 4, 1883.

We would like to ask your subscribers if they have any
information an this engine and if so what gas pressure was
used?

I retrieved this little four-cycle air-cooled engine from a
local junk yard just after some farmer had dumped it along with the
rest of his farm scrap. It measures 18′ high and flywheel
diameter of 10′. I did not open the. engine but judge it to be
a 2′ bore. It has one mechanical exhaust valve operating on an
external cam. The lubrication came from a sight feeder located
behind the cylinder. It has an American Bosch magneto, Splitdorf
1/2′ pipe thd. plug, V up-draft carburetor and a one-quart gas
tank.

After freeing up the points, making a new point spring, cleaning
the carburetor and gas tank, I started the engine and it ran
perfectly at 1400 R.P.M. governor speed. The governor is a ball
weight type found on steam engine throttles.

There is no manufacturer identification, only a number M110827
on the crank case. From the size of the round belt pulley, I would
guess it was designed to run a cream separator or a washing
machine.

Please advise me if you can identify this engine and also tell
me. how old this engine would be.

Here are two pictures of a gas engine for your ‘What Is
It?’ page. I would like to know the make, horsepower and RPMs.
There is no name plate and no place where the name plate could have
been that I have found.

Some of the measurements of the engine are as follows: Diameter
of the flywheels, 161/2 inches; flywheel
face, 21/4 inches; distance between
flywheels, 17 inches, center to center; bore and stroke, as far as
I can tell by approximate measure, 33/4
inches by 5 inches. Some of the casting numbers are: U3 on the
cylinder head; U2 on the main bearing caps; and U11 on the rocker
arm. Notice the spark plug hole and the frame attachment points on
the water hopper in the ‘head on’ view of the engine. Could
someone explain the framework around the cylinder head area? The
ignition is a timer and buzzer coil.

This picture was taken about 1924. This car had a continental
motor and had two forward speeds. Would anyone want to name it?

The No. 2 engine photo in the November-December issue is a
‘Homelite’ tank heater generator engine. These were direct
connected to a 28 or 30 volt generator for boosting starter
batteries in Army tanks. I can’t tell from the photo much about
the size, but most were either 50 or 80 amp units, 4 or 6 HP. These
two photos are of my own mystery engine. This engine is about
18′ tall, weighs about 30 pounds and runs 1000 RPM. I have
never had the head off but it is about
21/4‘ bore, 1
5/8‘ stroke, 2 cycle. It uses Ford coil
for spark and has finned head for cooling. It runs either direction
by throwing spark lever. Deflector is bolted to the head of the
piston. The crankcase has the following imprint, ‘SHUG ELECTRIC
MFG. CO. DETROIT, MICH’. Now I know that ‘Sandow’ used
Shug coils on their engines built by the Detroil Motor Car Supply
Company and I am wondering if this engine could be an experimental
model. It has no numbers anywhere that I can find on it. I wonder
if any reader has any idea about the engine and use of this little
jewel was originally built for? The frame and tank and coil box are
of my own make. This little rascal runs very smooth. It apparently
has some form of built in throttle governor.

PIONEER ENGINE NEWS

There was a very good turn out for the December 4th meeting of
the Pioneer Gas Engine Association, Inc. This was our annual
Christmas party, when each member brings a gift for a patient at
the Newark State School for the Mentally Handicapped. A short
business meeting was conducted by our new President, Roland Riegle.
It was decided to have an auction in conjunction with our annual
Spring ‘Gas-up.’ The date to be set later.

After the pot-luck supper, slides were shown of the Bird City,
Kansas Reunion. These slides were sent to us by a member, Harry
Hall of Albuquerque, N. M. for our enjoyment. Later, round and
square dancing was enjoyed to music furnished by Kenneth Roloff of
Manila, N. Y.

January is the only month, when no meetings are held, as it is
so close to the holidays. We all miss the friendly get togethers.
February is the picture showing meeting, and we expect some fine
slides and movies of various shows.

We welcome any new members, even if you will never be able to
attend a meeting or reunion. You will receive our bi-monthly news
letter, the PIONEER ENGINE BUGLE. It has grown from two pages,
printed on one side to six pages printed on both sides. We now have
259-1967 members. Dues are $2.00 per year. We also have an
EQUIPMENT DIRECTORY for $1.00. It is 33 page mimeographed directory
of owners and engines. Send money to Mrs. Dorothy B. Smith,
Sec’y., Forest Grove Trailer Park, Ontario, N. Y. 14519.

Our 1967 Reunion dates are July 28, 29 and 30 at Fairville, on
Route 88, Newark, New York. Hope you can come and join us!

Published on Mar 1, 1967

Gas Engine Magazine

Preserving the History of Internal Combustion Engines