Smoke Rings: Engine Information Requested

By Staff
Published on May 1, 1968
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We're not just blowing smoke. We don't have the engine information some of you are trying to find. But other readers might.
We're not just blowing smoke. We don't have the engine information some of you are trying to find. But other readers might.
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A picture of my small (approx. 1 1/2 hp)Flint & Walling engine that I have restored. I would appreciatehearing from anyone who is familiar with this make of banger. Courtesy of W. E. Nemeck, Medina, Ohio 44256
A picture of my small (approx. 1 1/2 hp)Flint & Walling engine that I have restored. I would appreciatehearing from anyone who is familiar with this make of banger. Courtesy of W. E. Nemeck, Medina, Ohio 44256

Hi to all the Gas Engine Enthusiasts all over the country. I
suppose by now you have that engine all ready or at least are
putting the crowning touch onto it in anticipation of the many
excursions ahead of you this summer. May you all have a wonderful
summer and meet with many old friends and make new ones too as you
enjoy the many wonders of each enjoyable Reunion.

We have quite a number requests for engine information from letters that are coming
through the office, so I’ll get onto them right away. Clark B.
Dowler of Winterset, Iowa would like to know the
original paint color and if there was any trim on the Associated
Manufacturers Co., Waterloo, Iowa, Chore Boy engine. He has a 1 3/4
hp Serial No. 322033. How about it, you fellows that know these
things? Drop Clark a friendly note and let him know. He’ll
appreciate it.

Frank Hamata of Schuyler, Nebraska writes: “A
picture in the January/February 1968 issue has the wrong caption. I say it is a
Frick outfit located somewhere in Pennsylvania, southeastern part.
Who knows for sure?” Well, Frank, I don’t. But who wants
to argue?? Any takers? Good. Argue with Frank.

Does anyone have any information on Lauson tractors prior to
1919 Full Jeweled? If so, Clifford A. Caron of Faribault,
Minnesota would like you to write him. Please do so–it
makes us happy if we can be the connection between perhaps a good
friendship, as I’m sure many of these letters turn out to be–due to two folks having a common interest.

Roger Kriebel, Mainland, Pennsylvania wants to know: “Can anyone give me information about the governor linkage on
my 6 hp Ohio gas engine? It has a side shaft with an upright
governor along side of the head. It is a hit and miss with separate
intake and exhaust manifolds. Ignition is by a make and brake
igniter located in the head. The Ohio Motor Company in Sandusky,
Ohio built it. RPM is 290. It is a very nice engine and well built.
Also, could you tell me where I can get glass for oil drip
lubricators?” Well, here’s another fellow in need of advice
from his Gas Engine Magazine friends. Let’s not let him down.

A letter from Albert Erbele of Lehr, North Dakota states:
“‘I have a one cylinder 3 hp engine, open crank case, 450 rpm, and it has
two nameplates. One is Koehler Hinricks Butcher Machinery, St.
Paul, Minnesota and the other says that it was manufactured by the
Globe Iron Works Company, Menocne, Wisconsin. The engine
is in very rough shape. It appears that someone tried to make an
air compressor out of it. Lots of parts missing. Can someone give
me more information on this engine? Also, if parts would be
available somewhere?” To his aid Men!

David Babcock of Cass City, Michigan needs help also (boy, we have a lot of people in need of assistance
this issue), so let’s not let them down. David wants to know
if the Hercules company is still in business. He has two
1 1/2hp models–SN 106178 and SN 242421–and
would like to know the years of these engines. Well, it’s
Greek to me Dave, but I’m hoping some of the veterans in this
business will come through for you.

HINT: If you have trouble blowing gaskets on a gas engine try
using one cut from copper screen door wire and one cut from thin
sheet asbestos. Place together with plenty of shellac. The water
passage openings need not be cut cut of the wire. If this works –
give me credit but if it doesn’t,  blame William S. Strayer of
Dillsburg, Pennsylvania–he sent this information.

A note from Lyman Matthews, C/O Dustan Matthews of Aberdeen, South Dakota: “Could anyone send
in details of the Kansas City Light and Balanced Stationary Gas
Engine? I worked on a Maza, N.D. Farm in 1917 that had two of these
engines. This engine was, as I remember, built with two pistons end
to end and operated from connecting rods from the same crankshaft in
such a way as to use the pistons to work against each other as a
cylinder head for the other and intake and exhaust was arranged so
to enter the area between the pistons when at nearest or closest
spot. This was on the Art Horn farm one mile east and half mile
south of Maza, N.D. One was a 3 hp and the other either 1 1/2 hp or maybe 5 hp. I am sure that was
the name on the name plate. Believe me. I would be happy to learn
more of this engine.” If you know the answers to this one, get
the message to Matthews and we’ll all be happy.

Robert J. Hayes of Muscatine, Iowa writes: “Enjoyed Stan Read’s articles on the engines, particularly
the one on the Maytag, since that was the first gas engine I ever
owned. The old single sold me on the two cycle principal and have
been with two cycle motors ever since, although not the Maytag.
This fall I wrote the company about an old one I was cleaning up
and received considerable information in a letter from Mr. Ryder.
Maytag bought the Elgin Gas Engine from the Elgin Gas Motor Company
of Elgin, Illinois or at least the patent rights some time before
1914. A battery ignition single cycle motors from 1914 to 1921.
Magneto Ignition single 1922-1926, not equipped with foot starter.
Magneto Ignition single 1927-1936. Maytag Twin Multi-Motor 1936
till September 1952. Hope this will help some of the fellows figure
the approximate age of their Maytag ‘Multi-Motors.’ Fuel
mix is one part oil to 16 parts gasoline. Any good grade outboard
oil is recommended. Maytag also built a battery charger and a small 110 volt light
plant, and I would like very much to locate one of them.

Will second the motion for an article on the hot air engine as
they are most fascinating to watch run. There have been several at
the Mount Pleasant show including a fan with a lamp in the base
providing the heat to make ‘er go.” Now, there fellows,
instead of wanting information, Bob gave us some. Thanks!

“In Gas Engine Magazine for November/December 1967 there is a picture of
a 30-60 Type E Rumely Oil Pull Cira 1923. I believe the old girl
did a little fibbing about her age, at least ten years. I would
believe that she was manufactured about 1910. This model used M
& B ignition. The flywheel was 4-in diameter weighing
1300 pounds and turned clockwise as you faced it. Bore 10-in and
stroke 12-in, 375 rpm, total weight 26,500 pounds, one speed
forward 1.9 mph, drive wheels 30 x 80 high, pulley
36-in dia. x 11-in face. The steering was similar to that of a
steam engine: chains and a swinging axle. A thresher man in our
neighborhood purchased a 20-40 Oil Pull in 1920 and this model had
automotive type steering. The engine turned counter clockwise as
you faced the flywheel and it also had high tension ignition
instead of M & B. [Now, I thought you folks might be interested
in this letter, so there it is, but I don’t know who it’s
from. Probably my fault, but I can’t find the name and address
anywhere with this item. So, if anyone recognizes it as his telling, let me know and I’ll give you credit. And I’m sorry this
has happened. I like to be sure the contributors get credit.–AMB]

In the March/April 1968 Gas Engine Magazine there is a drawing and it looks
like it is part of Lewis Cline’s article on Liquid Fuels. It isn’t. The drawing was sent in by James Bove of Los Angeles, California. We’re sorry the credit line
was not on, but that was one of Uncle Jake’s gang’s mistakes. We
all make these errors and we are sorry. We try to do better each
time and that’s what life is all about, isn’t it? Trying to
do better each day. We aren’t perfect but we’re
trying.

And so ends another column for the Gas Engine Magazine and in closing must leave
you with a few “food for thought” lines:

Ideas are funny
things; they do not work unless you do.

A friend is one who puts
his finger on a fault without rubbing it in.

Life is not so short
that there is no time for courtesy.

A good thing about telling the
truth is that you don’t have to remember what you say.

A
quitter never wins, a winner never quits.

God Bless you all. Have
fun at the get-togethers–Anna Mae

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