A Very Brief Word

| October/November 1999

  • Kewanee Engine
  • Unidentified Engine
  • Kewanee Engine
  • Waterloo engine
  • Waterloo engine
  • Hay Fork Winch
  • Tillsoil Tractor
  • Leader Engine

  • Kewanee Engine
  • Unidentified Engine
  • Kewanee Engine
  • Waterloo engine
  • Waterloo engine
  • Hay Fork Winch
  • Tillsoil Tractor
  • Leader Engine

Time is short this month, so we'll get right to the queries.

Our inquiries begins with:

34/10/1 Kewanee Engine Q. See the photos of an engine from Kewanee Private Utilities Company, Kewanee, Illinois. It is a Type 6A, s/n 8474. Can anyone provide any information on this engine? Any help would be appreciated. Rich Howard, Hysham, MT 59038.

A. We can't provide much to help you, and might also comment that we have a small four-cylinder Kewanee. For this one too, we have never found any information.

Editor's note: See the January/February 1982 GEM for some background on this company in an article by James Jones. Twenty years ago, columnist Glenn Karch had just restored a Kewanee, which he told of in an article in our March/April 1979 issue.

34/10/2 Unidentified Engine Q. See the photo of an unidentified engine. It was apparently intended to be a laboratory test engine. It is air cooled with convoluted copper fins surrounding the vertical cylinder; the valve tappets and push rods are exposed. Spark timing, dwell, fuel mixture and compression can all be varied at will. It has two interchangeable carburetors. The first is a conventional Tillotson, the second has a glass reservoir so that fuel can be precisely monitored. It has a panel of meters displaying rpm, power and cylinder head temperature. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Neal Matheson, 1828 E. 6th Ave., Mesa, AZ 85204.

A. This inquiry appeared last month as number 34/9/13 (page 5), but the close-up picture wasn't with us at that time, so we are reproducing it here, now.

34/10/3 Simplex Motorbike Q. I have an old Simplex motorbike and it needs a motor. Finding an original would be quite difficult, but perhaps an old Briggs would work. My main goal is to keep the early flavor of the period while making the old scooter serviceable. It is a belt drive. If anyone has any ideas, please contact Jeff Quinn, 732 Union St., Lancaster, PA 17603.

34/10/4 Clarification

Tal Harris, 4300 Daniel Dr., Wax-haw, NC 28173 notes that in the May 1999 GEM he requested information on his 6 HP Waterloo engine. However, it was noted as a Waterloo Boy in the article, although the nameplate does not state Waterloo Boy, only Waterloo Gasoline Engine Co. Tal is still looking for information on this engine.

Tal also has a 3 HP Waterloo-type engine, s/n 106577, and believes it to be either a Big Chief or a Caldwell Hallowell, based on the Waterloo Repair List No. 16. The base casting has a date of 8-15-14. Except for the flywheels and governor works the parts interchange with the 3 HP Waterloo. This engine has a 4? x 6 inch bore and stroke. Still needed are the complete governor, cam gear, and detent arm, along with the color scheme. Traces of red paint can be found behind the broken governor bracket. See the two photos

34/10/5 Cushman 'C' Binder Engine Q. I am restoring a 4HP Cushman Binder engine and can find only traces of dark green paint. Does anyone have the correct color scheme? Darrell Combs, 6587 Pacheco Way, Citrus Hts., CA 95610-4558.

A. DuPont 62713 Green should be mighty close to the original color.

34/10/6 Red E Tractor Q. Can anyone help me with information on a Red E Tractor made by Pioneer Mfg. Co., Milwaukee, Wisconsin? The engine has a 3? x 4 inch bore and stroke. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Neal Sargeant, 23 Ennis Road, Marshfield, VT 05658.

34/10/7 Stover Diesel Engine Q. Can anyone help me with a Stover 10 HP diesel engine of 1937? I need information, owners manual, and a source of parts, such as the head gasket. Any help would be appreciated. Richard Elderkin, 286 White Ave., Middlebury, CT 06762.

A. The complete operating instructions are included in our book, Power in the Past, Volume 3, available from GEM. We are not sure of where you might find a head gasket.

34/10/8 Making It Easier

Mel Dearing, 416 Old Dearing Rd., Helena, AL 35080 comments in part that those requesting information should also include their 'snailmail' address when sending in their letters on email. Lots of people don't have e-mail. Also, it would be helpful if you would include your phone number, because lots of our readers don't care much to write, but would rather call you. Another of Mel's suggestions is to try and belt your engines up to some machine or other for display. It adds lots of interest at a show. (We agree completely Mel!)

34/10/9 Associated Busy Boy

Robert C. Faust, 133 Indian Run Rd., Weatherly, PA 18255 recently acquired a 1? HP Associated Busy Boy engine. He would like to hear from anyone having information on it.

34/10/10 Fairbanks-Morse Q. I recently acquired a Fairbanks-Morse 3 HP single cylinder engine and would like the correct color. Seth Winship, 255 Mumford Dr., West Rutland, VT 05777.

A. We have DuPont 72001 Green listed as a good match.

34/10/11 Little Farmer Garden Tractor Q. R. D. Corley, 314 N. Coolidge, Enid, OK 73703 has a Little Farmer and needs a sketch drawing, or copy of the belt clutch in order to make one. All help is greatly appreciated.

34/10/12 To Quench Your Thirst Q. I am looking for the recipe of a home-made drink used by early farmers, threshermen, and others who had to work day in and day out in the hot sun. I only know it was made from water, vinegar, soda, and sugar. The proportions or the other ingredients I do not know. Can anyone share this recipe? Walter L. Hayward, PO Box 420159, Kanarraville, UT 84742.

34/10/13 What Is It?

Responding to this question on page 28 of the July 1999 GEM, Bob Oleson, W1360 Hwy 106, Palmyra, WI 53156 sends a photo of his Hay Fork Winch, noting that these were used to pull hay into a barn. This system replaced a horse doing the job. A clutch system was operated by a rope to raise the load of hay into the barn.

34/10/14 Nelson Bros. Air Cooled Engine Q. Richard Nielsen, 9122 W. 66th Pl., Arvada, CO 80004-3046 has a 1 HP air cooled engine, s/n a3VSG3342 made by Nelson Bros. He would like to find operator's information, as well as the correct paint color. Can you be of help?

34/10/15 Locomobile Engine Q. I have a two-cylinder Locomobile steam engine. Without success I have endeavored to find information on its origin, the manufacturer, or the vehicle for which it was designed. Any help would be appreciated. Lester L. Durham, 504 Abney St., St. Albans, WV 25177.

A. Locomobile operated from 1899 to 1929. They built steam-powered vehicles until 1902 and came out with gasoline-powered models the following year. Your engine could have been used in any one of several different vehicles.

34/10/16 Bolens Husky Q. I need information on a Bolens Husky garden tractor with iron wheels. It is Model B6A4 or B6A5 and has a mounted cultivator. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Joseph M. Hood, 9601 N 100 E, Rushville, IN 46173-9042.

34/10/17 Palmer Engines

Art DeKalb, 51 Van Alstyne Dr., Pulaski, NY 13142 writes that the last two digits of the serial number is the year built for Palmer engines. Art also notes that Dick Day, 40021 Ben Morgan Rd., Leonardstown, MD 20650 is the acknowledged expert on the Palmer engines.

34/10/18 Tillsoil Tractor

Regarding this query of 34/7/8 (July issue), Ruth Bitner, Collections Curator for the Saskatchewan Western Development Museum sends this illustration (see photo) from a May 1920 issue of Canadian Power Farmer. There is a Tillsoil in the Western Development Museum Collection.

34/10/19 Saw Rig Q. In the August 1999 GEM on page 4 is shown a saw rig. Since it has a straight belt, has the engine been fixed to run backwards? Dayton Hibner, 5228 Clarks Mill Road, Louisville, GA 30434.

A. Indeed! If the engine has a symmetrical cam, that is, if it has the same rise each way from the top of the lobe, it can be re-timed so that the engine will run counterclockwise. This is only possible if the exhaust valve is the only thing on the cam. Sometimes there are two separate lobes to the cam, as for operating the igniter or other duties. Certain models of the Galloway and Gade engines come to mind as being capable of running in either direction.

34/10/20 Leader Engine Q. See the photo of my 2 HP Leader engine from Field Force Pump Co., Elmira, New York. It is s/n 5174. Can anyone tell me when it was built? I have seen some of the 3 HP engines, but not many of the smaller sizes. The engine is very heavy and runs very well. Dick Brown, 175 Sonnet Ln, Gilbertsville, KY 42044-8840.

34/10/21 Sturtevant Engines

Bob Strong, 1308 Sunrise Drive, Ft. Myers, FL 33917 sends along some photocopy information relative to the Sturtevant engines. This firm is often listed as an engine builder, but information now comes that the company built airplane engines, not stationary engines. Back in the 1960s a representative of the Sturtevant Division, then owned by Westinghouse Electric Corporation, noted that the company began building these engines in the early 1900s and ended production after World War One. Two sizes were built, and both utilized a V-8 design. The 120 horsepower model weighed 500 pounds and had a displacement of 555ci. The bigger 140 horsepower size used a 4? x 5? inch bore and stroke and had a displacement of 700 cubic inches.

A Closing Word

From a local DuPont dealer we have learned that they are discontinuing the time-honored Dulux line of enamels. In its place are the new breed of acrylics such as DuPont Centari. One can often get a severe case of sticker shock when pricing the newer enamels. Government standards become tougher and tougher, and this drives up the cost of the product. As we have also pointed out before, using these new acrylic enamels also requires proper protective equipment!!! Those little gauze surgeon's masks won't do it! DO NOT USE these products without a proper respirator. This will require the investment in the respirator unit itself, plus the necessary cartridges to filter out the harmful particles. Many of these are very toxic, and some of them, when once settled in your lungs, just stay there and continue to do their damage.

We also hear from friends in other countries that there are some concerns about their governments stepping in to regulate the operation of our old engines and tractors . . . probably with some idea of adding a silly exhaust air purification system, probably as big as a tractor and costing nearly as much. Now we will allow that dumping old crankcase oil on the ground or belching smoke, oil, and fire all over a visiting crowd isn't real bright, we also have to concede that there are those who still are guilty of some or all of these grievous sins. Now there are pragmatic environmentalists, and there are those flaming ones who cast a jaded eye upon anything created subsequent to God's Omnipotent Hand. Those latter are the ones you certainly don't want to dump your smoke, soot, and fire on at a show, because chances are those same people will display their sooty shirt to some Congressional Committee with nothing better to do than to listen to such drivel. The problem is that you can't pick these people out of a crowd! Why not just leave the soot, the smoke, that black oil from the exhaust at home. Oh yes, and weld a hook on those tuned exhaust systems so you can convert them into a proper boat anchor. Not only is it annoying, but it also gains the attention of the negative types in this world when a 5 horsepower engine bellers like one cylinder of an Indy racecar. Ye olde Reflector has traveled a bit, and believe me, the show rules in other countries are a lot tougher than they are here in the U.S.


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