Inquiries concerning the mounting of the Trichotometric Indicator Support indicate that some difficulty is being experienced with the brackets which attach the support. As an aid toward fabricating the support brackets, the accompanying illustration is provided to show how the support is coupled between the differentialator and the carburetorphalasum. It will increase the flow of power between the magtometer and tappetmodulator. The application of the special ambihelical hexnut is unique in that any attempt to remove it in the conventional manner only tightens it. Because of the design, the nut must be fully screwed on before it can be screwed off.
PERRY WHETSTONE, RR 2, Box 88, Shipshewana, Indiana 46565 writes that he and his dad restore engines as time permits and they would like to know if anybody in Gas Land could give them the age of two different engines. (An Alpha, Type E-282 HP WA 2? Number 60484 Speed 500. This engine runs and looke like new.) (A Rock Island, Number 108207, HP 1? Speed 600)
A note from ROBERT SCHWIERS, 216 Rose Street, Stevens Point, Wisconsin 54481: 'I have an IHC Model M, 3 HP 600 RPM engine with a Model L magneto and igniter. It runs good with a coil, but not on magneto as it seems to lose the magnetism. Also, was there a plate between magneto and gear pushing against engine housing to keep grease and oil in? Would like to hear from anyone who has had this problem. Also, who knows year and color of Iron Horse Engine, Model X448 made by Johnson Motor Company, Waukegan, Illinois?'
HAROLD B. KINNEY, Sr., Route 1, Woodsfield, Ohio 43793 is looking for information, pictures, etc. on the latest Reid Gas Engine of Oil City, Pa. He is an oil producer and uses Reids, Bissimers and Pattern Bros. Gas Engines. He knows that these are no longer manufactured.
V. E. GRIFFIN, R.F.D. 3, Portland, Tennessee 37148 writes in answer to Danny Farncys problem in the January-February GEM. V.E. has two of the Fairmont Railway Motors, a 6 HP and a 4 HP. Yes, they were used by the R.R. on the motor hand cars that the section hands used. The ones that he has were bright red. He would say that they came out in the 1920s. Speed is very variable.
BOB SEELEY, R. R. 3, Box 176, Warrensburg, Missouri 64093 doesn't have any problems on restoring old machinery, but he wants to pass on some information that might be of interest to some of your readers. 'I've located several old Cat '60's' in various states of disrepair. I've also located an old abandoned power shovel. All have been just rusting away for at least these last 12 years or more (one nearly 30 years). I had hoped to restore at least one '60' and the old power shovel, but physical setbacks have forced me to reevaluate my thinking. I hate to see these old monsters go to pot. If anyone is interested, they can contact me for more details and locations. However, if any interested parties just happen to know where I can get a Zigler-Schryer (see ad in back), I'd appreciate it. I have a Rawleigh and a Rawleigh-Schryer and I need the latter mentioned for a complete series. Incidentally, I have a Witte of 1912 vintage that has every part on it stamped with the part number and serial number of the engine - including the keys for the flywheels. I've never known of an engine produced this way. I'm wondering if this is a unique engine by Witte.
GERALD VAN DYK, Box 196A, Route 1, Colton, South Dakota 57018 would appreciate hearing from anyone on the R & V Engines. He has an R & V, 4 HP, flyball governor type.
DARRELL DEY, Vergas, Minnesota 56587 says: 'I would like to thank all the fine people who answered my request in 'Smoke Rings' in the last issue. I sure appreciated hearing from everyone who wrote. Thank you so much.'
NELS JOHNSON, 8th and Chestnut, Blue Rapids, Kansas 66411 wants to know if anyone has ever heard of a Style Pone ? HP engine. It has dual flywheels, 11' in diameter. (I never heard of that one, I don't believe.)
RANDY ZEITZ, 1215 E. 24 Rd., Cadillac, Michigan 49601 writes that a neighbor has asked him to work on an engine in his possession and he needs to know more about it or the company that made it. It was made by the Jaeger Machine Company of Columbus, Ohio. This engine was used on a cement mixer and has an identification plate with 4E-2H inscribed on it. About a 4' bore and 22' flywheels. Wico EK magneto. He would appreciate it.
EDWARD and WANDA HANSON, 1346 Melrose St., Chula Vista, California 92011 write that the response to their request for the list of engines was tremendous and there was a fellow by the name of 'Gas Engine Mike' who has a list of about 1650 engines or more and who will, in the near future, get another book up as he is now out of the old ones. His address is 'Gas Engine Mike,' Ruben Michelson, Anamoose, North Carolina 58710. Ed would like to thank everybody who wrote him about Mike through the magazine, as there were so very many. Also, he will put an ad in the GEM when he is ready with the new book, including the price. Also of interest: in January, Mr. John Richter and wife, Mary, from Novi, Michigan came out to the coast for two weeks and we had several long chats about engines, and they got to see several other collectors about here and also to see some of mine run, etc. He is an avid engine collector and they belong to several engine clubs in Michigan with lifetime memberships. They also visited many shows and traveled around quite a bit. John is assisted by his wife, Mary, and has a great enthusiasm for collecting and restoring engines - although he is totally blind and they are in their 70s. His spirit is very high and like he says, 'I see with my hands.' It sure does one good to meet these wonderful people.
W. D. ROWLAND, 4940 Henry Cooper Road, Bucyrus, Ohio 44820 writes, 'My son and I enjoy reading GEM very much and we need some help from someone who has an early style headless Jacobson side shaft engine. This model is tank-cooled and has brass carburetor with the gas tank cast in base. We are having trouble with igniter. Would also like to hear from someone with a Reliable air-cooled engine made in Toledo, Ohio. This engine has brass rod, cooling fins cast in flywheels, is about 1 HP.'
JOE MAURER, Route 1, Pearl City, Illinois 61062 is wondering if any of the readers can give him some history of A. B. Farquhar. He has a rear mounted 15 HP engine with the band wheel on the left. Since there aren't any other Farquhar tractors in his area, no one seems to know much about them.
EDWARD L. ALDRICH, 1454 North Sea Road, Southampton, New York 11968 would appreciate any information you may be able to give him on a Lauson engine that he purchased recently. It was manufactured by The John Lauson Mfg. Co., New Holstein, Wisconsin. No. 19210, speed 325, Type A, Size C D - 8 HP. Please write him if you think you can help.
'HELP!' comes the call from JACK VERSTEEG, 3935 Cooley Drive, N.E., Salem, Oregon 97303-'Can anyone out there in Chugger Land tell me what the letters behind the HP, on the Serial Number Tag for the Economy, Hercules means? I have seen engines with the letter E. F, J, K & S on them and have not found anyone that knows what they mean.' (Have the answer?? Let Jack know - us too if you want to get the information to some more readers.)
BERNY HARTMAN, 1315 South Florissant Road, Florissant, Missouri 63031 has something for you readers: 'I wrote you a letter about a year ago and I received a lot of help from your many readers. Since then I have really enjoyed every issue of your magazine. Collecting and restoring gasoline engines and related equipment has been a most rewarding hobby since I started a couple of years ago.
Maybe you can help me with my latest problem. I have a Fairbanks Morse 2 cylinder horizontal water pump. It has a tag that reads: Self oiling, typhoon pump 215 RPM, 100 lb. pressure, 2500 gallon per hour. It has a cast flywheel 16' diameter and 4' wise and weighs about 200 lbs. Any help as to year, color, etc. would really be appreciated.'
JAMES A SMITH, Route 1, Abbotsford, Wisconsin 54405 writes: 'Along with winter comes more time for gas engines and along with that comes more questions. I have two new (old) gas engines-Faultless 1? HP, S.N. 1488, The Ever Ready, and a Galloway ? HP S.N. 1543.
I would like to hear from someone who would know the age of this Faultless and if this is a common engine. The Galloway brings more needed information. I need the color, the way the name was put on and any other information that would help in restoring. This little engine has 10' flywheels and the governor is on the inside of the flywheel. I would like to know the age and if this is what they call a Handy Andy.
Once again I wish to thank the Gas Engine Magazine and the people who are so willing to share their information with us beginners.'
WILLIAM VAN LENNEP, Windthrow Farm, Jewett Street, Pepperell, Massachusetts 01463 would like to know if anyone among our readers knows anything about the Leader Tractor? It was made around 1946 in Chagrin Falls, Ohio, He has one of these tractors and he believes it to be the only model ever made by this company. He would appreciate any and all information that anyone can offer, but he specifically needs the model number of the Hercules Engine used in the tractor. (4 cylinder, 2 heads). His engine doesn't have any identification plates that he can find.
MAX H. WILLIAMS, Route 1, Box 361, Midland, North Carolina 28107 is looking for any assistance that anyone could give him as to the date of manufacture, paint information and operation of the following engines: Economy Gasoline Engine, 'Improved Model' No. 34324; Stove Engine, Type CT-4, No. TD229062; McCormick Deering 1? HP, No. W66482; and the Ottawa No. C18189. The Ottawa has only the letters LS stamped where the horsepower should be. Can anyone explain what this means and give him the horsepower of this engine? It is manufactured by the Ottawa Manufacturing Company, Ottawa, Kansas, has 4 1/8 bore with 5' stroke. Any help greatly appreciated.
ROBERT L. WILLIS, 510 North 21st Street, Escanaba, MI. 49829 writes, 'Some of us up here in the upper peninsula of Michigan have collected the following tractors: Hart Parr 30, IHC 10-20 Titan, Twin City 12-20 Crossmount. We want to do the restoration right and wonder if someone could help us with colors and lettering on these tractors. Thanks so much for your help.'
CARL SCHLEGEL, 16527 Wood Road, Lansing, Michigan 48906 tells us that he has recently acquired a Stover Engine 18 HP Serial Number 91928, 8?' bore, 14' stroke, which is missing the ignition, connecting devices, carburetor, etc. Carl would like to know where he can find a parts list description or any information on re-assembling. He says, 'I'm sure there is a way to proceed, but I need a starting point.'
Many questions come from BLAKE MALKAMAKI, 10839 Girdled Road, Painesville, Ohio 44077 - I'm sure he'll be waiting for your help:
'I have a 1725 cu. inch Franklin Valveless side shaft engine. I have been told it's 35 HP. It has a bore of 13' and a stroke of 13'. It has flywheels about six foot in diameter and is set up to burn natural gas, but with a high compression head and fuel pump can run on diesel.
I haven't gotten it set up to run yet but will try to soon. One problem I have is that the sleeve leaks and will probably need pulled and repacked. Does anyone have any information on this engine? How about that sleeve? Any suggestions? Big job? Is it hit and miss?
Also I have a vertical Standard Pump & Engine Co. engine with a built-on pump. This engine is made in Cleveland. The plate identifies it as number 5120, size: 2 HP. How old is this engine? What happened to the company? It's a hit-n-misser but does not operate like most. Both valves work on cams and work like throttling governor engines. The hit-n-miss works by a fuel pump which stops pumping when speed is up. Engine is cooled directly from the attached pump which pumps from a well. I had this engine at our show in Burton on August 1, 2 and 3rd. What color? Please write.'
WALTER E. SCHRAGE, 1219 Lawn Avenue, New Haven, Indiana 46774 wants to offer his assistance to many of you collectors as he writes you: 'I have years for these engines: Briggs-Stratton 1921 to 1969. Send Model, HP, style, engine number. Smith-Brigg Motor Wheel and Smith Buckboard Models A, B, BA, C, D engine. Year for 1?, 3, 6, HP E, EK, EP John Deere. Send engine number and prefix letter and HP. Year for Maytag FY - ED4 measure base and full tank high, engine number, Twins specify magneto, Wico or Eiseman, engine number 6 or 7 digits. 82 measure base same as FYED4. Specify mag. Johnson or Bosch vertical ?HP 10? - 1 HP - 12' flywheel. Send size flywheel and engine number. Elgin, 1900 to 1915, 1 HP, some call water-cooled Maytag vertical.' (This is rather hard to understand for me, but I imagine you 'buffs' know what it is all about and will be thankful for this information.)
ADAM SCOTT, R.R. 2, Nevada, Missouri 64772 calls on you folks to help: 'I need information on two tractors I am restoring. One is a CLETRAC. The only I.D. name plate I can find on it is located on the transmission cover back of the steering column. Cleveland Tractor Co., Cleveland, Ohio. CLETRAC serial number 18323. No model number or horsepower rating. I have checked all the reference books I have, R. B. Gray, Arthur P. Lang and Billy Overturf. They each show a Cletrac with the same dimensions as mine-Length, Width and Heights, Engine 4 cyl. 4 x 5?, one forward gear one reverse, 12-20 HP. Two list the engine as their own, one as a Weidly. The belt pulley is at the front end of the crankshaft. I do not have the original engine, therefore, I need to know what to search for and also the year it was built.
The other is an EMERSON BRANTINGHAM 12-20 model A A serial number 31589, Engine 4 cyl. 4? x 5. The belt pulley is on the rear of the tractor. Can anyone tell me the year this tractor was built?'
LARRY B. SCHUKNECHT, 5408 Genessee Street, Lancaster, New York 14086 sends us the following letter:
'In the summer of 1969 a saw mill was given to me which had once belonged to my great-grandfather. It was built by the Moravia Foundry and Machine Co. of Moravia, New York. All of the wooden parts were rotten, but I was able to replace them and make the mill operable again. Several years later I bought an old A. B. Farquhar Mill and combined the Farquhar Carriage and track with the Moravia Husk to make one good saw mill.
Sometime around 1972 a friend asked me to look for old gas engines for him. While doing that, I bought one became hooked on them myself. Now I have eight engines, five of which are restored. Also I have a 1894 Model Ireland Shingle Mill with Edger which was built by the Lyon Iron Works of Greene, New York. I am now in the process of rebuilding and restoring an Ireland Drag saw and also have all the parts to rebuild a Witte portable Drag saw.
I use a 1936 Massey-Harris Model OPA tractor to power my shingle mill. This tractor is restored, and is one of only 151 of this model. All Model OPA tractors were made in 1936. To operate my planer and stationary buzz saw, I use a model BO John Deere tractor, which can't be beat for fuel economy. My saw mill is powered by a JXD Hercules 6 cylinder engine out of a 1947 Diamond T truck, which I overhauled in the spring of 1976.
I am an active member of the Western New York Gas and Steam Engine Association, and have helped the club with their saw mill for the past two years. The club has many fine fellows as members, and I enjoy meeting with them all.
Saw mills, shingle mills, and drag saws interest me in particular, and I have compiled a list of over 65 companies who made them. I have over two dozen old catalogs, and over 60 old photos and I am always looking for more. Some day I would like to find someone who would take my material and print it as a scrapbook. There are books on steam and gas engines, tractors, and traction engines, but there is not a thing on saw mills, shingle mills, drag saws, and buzz saws.
I would be very grateful if anyone who knows the history of some of the old companies who made mills, would send me their information to help in my endeavor. I am particularly interested in information on the Ireland Foundry and Machine Company and their connection with the Lyon Iron Works. Also the Westinghouse Company of Schenectady, New York, the Appleton Drag Saws, the Moravia Foundry and Machine Company and Wm. Bartley and Sons of Bartley, New Jersey. Also if anyone is looking for information on this subject, I would be more than glad to share it with them if I can.
Keep up the good work on a great magazine and if the response is favorable to this, I'll send more information.'
RICHARD WENDENBURG, Tribune, Kansas 67879 is hoping the readers can give him information and history on a Leader Tractor made in Chagrin Falls, Ohio, Model B, Serial 269 - he would like the correct color etc. Also, any information or history on an Arrow Tractor Model 12, Serial 2015 made in Denver, Colorado. (Never heard of that tractor, send us the information, too.)
Some comments from GISLI L. BJORNSON, Box 1293, Innisfail, Alberta, Canada TOM 1AO: 'I am glad to see 'History At A Glance', Nov.-Dec. G.E.M. page 21 showing Holt Best Caterpillar. In the future issues this will be very informative as there were so many companies amalgamated under larger companies. One in particular I wonder about was Electric Wheel Company with their Crawler Line. (Anybody have any stories on this)? Also I am interested in the colors of the paint used on these early tractors.'
ROLAND H. EYSINK, Route 2, Pella, Iowa 50219 sends this with a renewal: 'I have a Canadian built Massey-Harris Ltd - just wonder if anyone else has one. It's a 6 HP, Type 2 550 RPM. Found the engine on an island 12 miles from land about 10 years ago. Took it all apart and hauled her by boat to load. I enjoy the magazine - keep up the good work.' (Thanks Roland).
BRIAN SCHRIMPF, Route 4, Jefferson City, Missouri 65101 wants to talk to the readers: 'I have been told that maybe you can help me with my problem. My brothers and I are rebuilding an F-20 (Farmall) to enter in tractor pulls next year. I would appreciate it if you could dig up some information or anything on the breakdown of the engine of an F-20.' (Now, there Fellow veterans, surely you can't let these brothers down. At any rate, I'm sure they'll be getting some helpful letters).
An inspiring letter comes from ARTHUR H. ANDERSON, 25275 Ipava Avenue, Lakeville, Minnesota 55044: 'Just a few lines to tell you that G.E.M. is one of the things that make life enjoyable for old iron nuts such as I. I am sure there are times that you feel like throwing in the towel, becuse you must keep more than busy with reading and blue penciling all the cries for help - but one thing I feel sure of is, that if you don't get your reward on this earth you will certainly some day get it in Heaven.' (Arthur, to get a letter such as this plenty reward - just to know you folks care and appreciate it's terrific - I only wish I could meet so many of you friends that I feel so close to in fellowship. - And - when I do feel down and this could go for any of you - if you consider the work you're doing - no matter what your job is - if you do it first for Jesus - it all becomes easier - look what He did for us - I sometimes can hardly comprehend the significance of His death and Resurrection when I think how unworthy we really are - but Praise the Lord - His ways are so beautiful!)
Now, continuing with Arthur's letter: 'With the help of G.E.M. readers, I have my 20-35 Allis-Chalmers running and looking like new, but there is one thing that keeps bugging me and that is the different ratings on the Model E. I have heard of or seen some rated 20-35, some 25-40, some 25-45, some 25-50, even one at 30-60. Now, I think some of these ratings are erroneous, so I am asking if someone in Gemland would have the real factory specifications and information on this and perhaps would clear this up once and for all by writing an article for G.E.M., as it would be a load off our minds and a boost to our ego to know just what we have.'
Some more comments by C. J. NIELSON, 926-4th St. S.E., Minot, North Dakota 58701: 'I'm wondering if anyone may happen to have a Detroit, 2 HP 2 cycle, 1 cylinder upright, made about 1910 or 1912? There is a picture and advertisement of it in the magazine - Gasoline Engines by Alan C. King, 1900 - 1914, page 26 (I don't know which magazine he means but maybe you do). The ad says only three moving parts, no cams, no sprockets, no gears, no valves.
This engine would run either way, some power etc. Just start it in the direction desired. Could even be started without cranking and reversed while running. This was done by manipulation of the spark lever and ignition switch. A very interesting unit, especially back in those days, I would say.
My dad bought one of these new when I was about learning to walk, and I played with it for years. Would surely appreciate hearing from anyone who may have one.'
ALLAN CURTIS, Box 191, Arthur, Ontario, Canada NOG 1AO writes: 'I have been taking G.E.M. for almost two years now and enjoy it coming to read and see what is new in the gas engine field. I am writing to see if anyone that takes the GEM can tell me the original color of a Novo gas engine 2 HP when it first came out of the factory. Thank you and I'll be waiting for an answer.'
GERALD SUNDBERG, 597 Lauren Road, Duluth, Minnesota 55804 cheers us with his writing: 'I am a new subscriber to the G.E.M. and I think its the best thing I've ever read. I've been tinkering with these old engines for a few years, but never knew there was a magazine on them.
I have eight engines in my collection now and hope to have a few more. I own a 5 HP Witte with a head and Wico mag, 5-8 HP Fairmont, 1?-2? Cushman, 1? Hercules, 1? McCormick, 1? Lansing a vertical Fuller & Johnson pump jack engine and a small International with a single flywheel. Its on metal skids. I don't know the horsepower on the last two. Perhaps some of the readers would help. I also need to know the paint colors of these engines.' (Help him feel at home in the Gem Family, Fellas!)
This missal comes from EVERETT L. MARTIN, N.W. 310 Janet Street, Pullman, Washington 99163 and he is counting on you to help him:
I have two engines and I am in the process of restoring them. By the way, both engines were given to me. I saved them from being broken up for scrap iron.
I would like to describe the two engines along with my questions and ask readers with similar engines to write. My first engine is a Fairbanks-Morse, Z model 1? HP-500 RPM, serial No. 569674. It has solid flywheels (no crank build into the flywheel), hit-miss governor system and the carburetor is non-adjustable. I need information on the ignition. It is equipped for a spark plug and a source? Also, I would appreciate knowing the original color and year of manufacture.
My second engine is a Worthington-Ingeco, made by the Worthington Pump and Machinery Corp'n - Cudahy, Wis. It is a 4 HP, serial No. 16416 - type W. It is equipped with a Wizard magneto (type 2TO). The rod that goes from the governor to the carburetor is missing - can anyone help with the shape of this rod? And, I am not quite sure I have the carburetor figured out. It has two fuel lines going to it and attached to one of the lines, near where it enters, is a reservoir (3 to 4 inches high and 1 inch or so in diameter). What is the function of the reservoir? Further, I would appreciate knowing where the gas tank should be located as it is missing. Attached to the cast frame, just forward of the governor, is a small structure I have not been able to figure out. It is a tubular structure (mounted horizontal) about 3 inches in length - one end screws out and it has an opening in the top side. Again, I would appreciate knowing the original color and year of manufacture. Thanks, keep up the good work.
DON KILEN, 953 North Township Rd. #73, Tiffin, Ohio 44883 says, 'First off, I would like to say that you have a fine magazine. I've learned a lot and met some good people through your magazine. I'm looking for two things this time. First, I'm trying to find any information on Webster magnetos made in Tiffin, Ohio - that was before they moved to Racine, Wisconsin. Maybe a reprinted ad or something. Second, I'm looking for help on a 1? HP Unito, made in Cleveland, Ohio. It is a style N, 450 RPM, serial number 6729. I would like the color, year made and what type of ignition it had. Thanks for any help you can provide.'
GEORGE A. LIGHT, Route 1, Callender, Iowa 50523 would like to reply to Roland C. Maxwell of Huntington, Indiana, when he says that he has to go to Dalton, Minnesota to see a tin bottom plow and threshing with wing feeders. I love the Dalton Show and think it is a great show, but he is driving by a show only half as far away that has wing feeders - also a twelve bottom plow pulled by the biggest known working steam engine, the 140 HP Reeves of Smoleks. Also the only known steam log hauler working, by Smoleks, and all this is at Cedar Falls, Iowa. George loves both the magazines and has quite a collection of gas engines' that he is rebuilding. He has collected them from Arkansas to Edmonton, Canada. The Iowa show is at Antique Acres, Cedar Falls.
JAMES I. GEER, 947 Col. Ledyard Hwy., Ledyard, Connecticut 06339 has some questions: 'I have a 1918 Galloway tractor S.N. 523 and would like to hear from anyone who has one as I need to know the color when I paint it. It has a Continental J4 engine, about 1920, which was put in, in 1927. The tractor has a large cast iron radiator, gas tank in front, chain drive, one speed forward, one reverse, pulley on right side, brake on left. The tractor engine is a basket case - small tree growing out of #3 cyl. and grass in other, but we feel we can save it.' (James is 14 years old and will be waiting to hear from you. He had sent a picture along, but it seems to have gotten away from the letter - if it shows up, I'll print it later, as I know he is anxious for your letters).
At this point I guess I'd better tell you good friends, I'm happy to be back at the typewriter - I just spent nine days in the hospital and have diabetes - which means I must learn to live a bit differently. I'm giving myself my own insulin and sticking to the diet and learning all I can. I just Praise the Lord for all the wonderful helps he provides and I'm sure I have many folks in the same boat with me. Keep your chin up and listen to orders provided,
In closing this time, I'd like to use something that was on a card sent to me by Moe Antique Acre Museum, DeForest, Wisconsin, 4 miles East on Cty. Trk. V, from the Moe Bros. 'That Which Lasts' - When at last we come to die, it may not seem important that we had a good salary, that we amassed some property, or that we were elected to some office. That which will give us deep satisfaction is that we do try to do God's will, that we befriended people in need, and that we gave hope to people who were discouraged. (Think about it - I find a lot of good thinking it - just so we do it). And then they also have on their card 'they who forget History live dangerously.' (Good food for thought also).