A Brief Word

| May/June 2000

  • Case Car
    Kent Ponton
  • Spark Plugs

  • Model Engines

  • Spark plugs for model Engine
  • Liliput Engine
    Carl L. Hill
  • Bay State Engine
  • Bell Prime Mover
  • Bell Prime Mover
    35/5/11 B
  • Bell Prime Mover
  • Perkins Engines
    Michael A. Shaffer
  • McCormick-Deering tractor
    Roy Thomas
  • Perkins Engines
    Michael A. Shaffer

  • Case Car
  • Spark Plugs
  • Model Engines
  • Spark plugs for model Engine
  • Liliput Engine
  • Bay State Engine
  • Bell Prime Mover
  • Bell Prime Mover
  • Bell Prime Mover
  • Perkins Engines
  • McCormick-Deering tractor
  • Perkins Engines

Gee, it doesn't seem like Spring already, but here it is, and ye olde Reflector, for one, is anxious to start some engine projects. Fortunately, most of our engines are sitting on concrete floors, making it easy to move them around. Seems like heavy iron gets heavier as we get older!

As usual, we pass along our annual admonishment to work and play safely. Having always worked around the construction business, we have seen more than a few situations where people were injured when it could likely have been avoided, and the same holds true for our hobby. If our warning keeps just one finger from being mashed, we'll consider it a major accomplishment!

Plans are moving ahead for our tour to Australia next February and March. By the time this copy is in your hands (about mid-April) we should have a tentative itinerary and some pricing. We sent out some information to past clients awhile back and have had lots of interest in the tour already. Once we get some definite information to pass on, you will see an advertisement right here in GEM. Our hope is to see some 'iron' almost every day of the tour. Of course we'll have to blend in some other activities as well, or many of the interested fellows will be going alone-need we say more?

It is our sad duty to report that our friend and editor at Krause Publications has passed away. Mr. Jon Brecka, who edited two of my books, and was working on my Standard Catalog of American Farm Tractors, was dreadfully injured in mid-December when he was broadsided by another vehicle on an icy road. Despite his severe injuries, Jon survived the accident and several hours of surgery. However, in mid-February a massive infection set in, and death followed. This creates quite a void for ye olde Reflector, since Jon and I worked very well together, particularly on the book now in process. Our sympathies to Jon's family and to his colleagues at Krause Publications.

Our first query this month is:

35/5/1 Paint Colors

Donald Hentges, 45719 - 263rd St., Humboldt, SD 57035 needs the paint colors for a Novo KU engine and for an IHC Mogul engine. We have DuPont 29609 Olive Green for the Mogul, but we don't have a color match for the later style Novo engines, only the vertical Type S models. Can anyone supply the correct color for the late style Novo engines?

35/5/2 Case Automobile

Kent Ponton, 2116 Malabar Lakes Dr. NE, Palm Bay, FL 32905 sends along an old photo of a Case car. Note that it has white sidewall tires and right-hand steering. Also note the man sitting on the back end of the car, with a turtle-neck sweater and a Case Eagle! Could this have been owned by the Case family, or perhaps by a Case dealer?

35/5/3 Early Stover Decal Q. On page 21 of Power in the Past, Volume 3, Stover, there is a picture of a pre- 1920 Stover logo on an engine .Do you have any idea of the correct colors? I have someone who can make decals from pictures, and the original colors would be nice. Any help would be appreciated. Bob Naske. E-mail:

A.We have only seen one engine that had the early style Stover decal, and our recollection is that it was blue and silver. Does anyone have one of these engines with the old style logo?

35/5/4 Liliput Engine

Carl L. Hill, 331 Holland St., Shillington, PA 19607 sends along a nice photo of a Liliput engine made in Germany. It is a small engine and has a 2 x 3 inch bore and stroke, an 11? inch flywheel, Bosch magneto, and a total length of 17 inches. Can anyone provide any information on this engine?

35/5/5 Bay State Engine Q. See the photo of a Bay State 2? HP engine, Type DH, s/n 22105. It was sold by Bacon Taplin Co., Springfield, Massachusetts. Any information on this engine would be appreciated. Also I would like the correct colors for the Witte engines and for the Flying Dutchman sold by Moline Plow Co. Ray LeClair, PO Box389, Winchendon,MA 01475.

A. The Witte is very close to DuPont 5204 Forest Green, and the Flying Dutchman is maroon, similar to DuPont RS491.

35/5/6 Log Saw Dimensions

Richard Hubbard, 85 Lynnrich Drive, Thomaston, CT 06787 has a 5 HP Ottawa log saw with the Swinging Frame Limb Attachment. He needs the dimensions to build the wood buck pieces that bolt on the wheel. He also needs the correct color, and we have it listed as green, similar to DuPont 51197. Rich also has a Coldwell power mower for which he needs more information and the correct color. We have neither of these, so perhaps someone can be of help.

35/5/7 Log Saw Information Needed

Lloyd Stunkel, W11145 Midway Rd., Kennon, WI 54537 has a drag saw from R. R. Howell &. Co. at Minneapolis. He needs to make some new parts and would like to hear from anyone who can help.

35/5/8 Mystery Engine

Several people responded to the photo sent in by Jerry Bandy that appeared in the March 2000 issue (page 4, query 35/3/12). It is a Paradox, made by Paradox Gas Engine Company, Hart ford, Conn. The engine was patented under No. 662,181 of November 20, 1900.

We got additional information on this engine over the phone in GEM's office. Bill Starkey of Starbolt Engine Supplies told us these engines, made in the early 'teens, were sold as toys. The flywheels are 3? inches in diameter with a 3 inch base. The overall height of the engine was 5 inches tall. Bill also advised us that the engine in 35/3/13 was an Ideal model V lawn mower engine.

35/5/9 Gas Producers

William H. Tannewitz and William Petrie (email: write that they recently came across an ad for a Weber Gas Engine and Suction Gas Producer. The ad goes on to state: 'One pound of charcoal, one horsepower, one hour.' We would suggest something like Gas, Gasoline & Oil Engines by Hiscox or something on that order. It's out of print, but we don't know of anything at present that has this sort of information.

35/5/10 Correction

On page 2 of the March 2000 GEM, we incorrectly gave the address of Harold L. Edwards as Warren, Indiana, when it should have been Warsaw, Indiana. Our apologies.

35/5/11 Bell Prime Mover Q. See the photos of the engine from a Bell Prime Mover, Model 343, s/n 626, built by Bell Aircraft Corporation, Niagara Falls, New York. The word Perlite 03-343-012 is on the flywheel housing. It is a one-cylinder two-cycle model with Fairbanks-Morse ignition. Can anyone provide further information? (See photos 11 A, 11B, and 11C.) Herb Mann, 2588 W. C.R.250 S., Warsaw, IN 46580.

35/5/12 Engine Restoring Problems Q. Randy Haschemeyer, RR 2, Box 167, Camp Point, IL 62320 writes that he is new to the hobby. He has recently purchased a couple of engines, one of which is very rusty as well as in need of new babbitt bearings. Having read about sandblasting and bead blasting, he would like to hear ideas from readers of what is the best way to do this. Also, he'd like to hear from people who know about pouring babbitt bearings.

A. For ye olde Reflector, the idea of getting a sandblaster used to occur, but it doesn't anymore. We finally figured that for just an occasional piece, it was cheaper to take it to someone who did this work and let them do it. However, the casting has to be primed right away, or on a humid day it will be starting to rust by evening. Disassemble the engine, removing magnetos, mixers, and things you don't want spoiled by the sand. Plug the cylinder with rags. Tape over bolt studs etc. with duct tape. Pouring babbitt bearings is rather fun, and we have discussed this in previous issues, both in this column and in general magazine articles.

35/5/13 Perkins-Work well Connection?

Michael A. Shaffer, 9071 S. CR 425W, Knightstown, IN 46148 sends along two photos of Perkins engines. In 13A is shown an engine having a cast brass nameplate, and 13B shows an engine with raised lettering in the hopper. These 1 HP engines were made by Perkins Windmill Co., Mishawaka, Indiana. It is also said that these engines were sold under the Work well name, but were made in the Perkins factory. Can anyone provide further information on this connection? Michael would also like to hear from other owners of these engines. You may also contact him at:

35/5/14 Fairbanks-Morse

Larry W. Boughman, 1038 Willow Trail, Goodlettsville, TN 37072 writes that he has a 6 HP Fairbanks-Morse Type Z engine and needs further information. He would also like to know whether sandblasting is acceptable before repainting, and where he might find the serial number. The Type Z engines usually have the serial number stamped on a boss atop the cylinder, or sometimes on top of the cylinder head. Rarely, it is found on the end of the crankshaft. The correct color is DuPont 72001 Dark Green. Sandblasting has its good and bad points. The engine has to be disassembled, and particularly, things like the babbitt bearings and any machined surfaces have to be protected, or serious damage will result. Cleaning out all the sand after blasting is time consuming too. Usually, we think it is a toss up, unless the engine is badly rusted.

35/5/15 Waterloo Vapor Cooled

Mac McNaughton, 895 Fairview Rd., Huntingdon, Quebec J0S 1H0 Canada has a Waterloo Vapor Cooled engine for which he needs any information he can find, also the original blower that was used for cooling. If you can be of help, please contact him.

35/5/16 Clinton Engines

J. Max Koone, 723 Flynn Rd., Rutherfordton, NC 28139 comments on 35/2/15 from the February GEM: Clinton is not and has never been associated with another engine manufacturer. They still supply engines and parts for their own engines. Power Products is part of Power Products-Lauson Division of Tecumseh.

35/5/17 Nordberg Engines

Bob Blase, Great Bend, Kansas (email: notes the recent comments about Nordberg engines. Bob tells us that he has seen one used in the oil field as a starter motor for bigger flywheel engines. It's nice to know that some of these engines are still around!

35/5/18 Further Information

Eugene Alt, 1720 Heron Avenue, Audubon, IA 50025 notes that he hadn't received any response to his query of 35/3/4 (March 2000 GEM). He also sends his e-mail, which is As happens sometimes, he also includes his phone number. However, due to privacy considerations, we set up the policy about 15 years ago of not including phone numbers within the Reflections column. The laws regarding communications are always changing, and for us to inadvertently include a phone number where it wasn't wanted, or worse yet, make a typographical error, with someone else getting the calls, could be a costly issue. We hope everyone understands our rationale!

35/5/19 15-30 Governor Q. Roy Thomas, 9289 Miller Creek Rd., Missoula, MT 59803 sends a photo of the governor on his 1927 model 15-30 McCormick-Deering tractor, saying, 'I looked in the standard governor housing and the weights are missing. A member of our club believes this was called the Red River Special option and was sold as a package with the Nichols & Shepard thresher. Any comments would be appreciated.'

A. Yours is a Pickering governor conversion for the 15-30. As a kid, there were several 15-30 tractors around, and some of them had the conversion, some not. The original IHC governor was notoriously slow on the draw.. . I know about that, having owned a couple of them myself. However, the Pickering was snappy and everything was there all at once. I saw a couple of them on sawmills years ago, and putting on the Pickering was a big help. Otherwise, by the time the IHC governor took hold, it was way too late. Nichols &. Shepard may have sold this as part of a package too, I don't remember.

35/5/20 Gladden Products

Alfred G. Brejcha Jr., RR 2, Box 12, Western, NE 68464 has a Gladden one-cylinder, 5 HP engine with a 2 ? x 3 inch bore and stroke. He would like to know when they were built, how long they were made, and if they were built for a special application. If you can be of help, please contact Mr. Brejcha.


Modelmakers Corner

Caldwell Industries Question

John M. Edgerton, 2 7 Loon Lake Rd., Bigfork, MT 59911 has an open column launch engine sold by Caldwell Industries. He needs to know how to make the valve timing mechanism and is hoping that someone might have some drawings of same. His letter to them was returned, so he assumes they are no longer in business. If you can be of help, please contact John at the above address.

Paul Hunter, 3270 Old Darlington Road, Darlington, PA 16115 sends along a photo of his Odds &. Ends engine, designed by Philip Duclos. The engine has a 1 x 1.375 inch bore and stroke, and was completed in 1999. All parts were shop made except for the spark plug and the oiler. Paul is a self-taught machinist (like most of us) and also has a nice collection of engines and tractors. Our compliments on a nice looking model!

Spark Plugs for Model Engines

The 1930s and 1940s were the heyday of the model spark ignition gasoline engine. During this time model engines of this type were used extensively in model airplanes, boats and model race cars.

Toward the end of the 1940s the glow plug made its appearance. This proved to be a major change in the operation of model engines. The glow plug was smaller, completely did away with ignition points, coil, condenser and battery on board. The troubles associated with these items, along with the wiring, were also eliminated.

The glow plug simply contained a fine filament wire which, when 1? volts was applied to it, glowed, not unlike that in a toaster. The engine was then given a spin and as soon as it started, the battery was disconnected and the heat of ignition of the fast-running engine kept the wire hot. Obviously, this would not fire a slow-running model hit and miss engine. If, however, a battery was kept hooked to the glow plug a slow running engine would operate. This is a continuous drain on a small and short lived battery.

There is a considerable tendency for the spark plug in a slow-running engine to foul with carbon, especially when run for short periods and therefore, lower temperatures. It's a good idea to keep a spare plug on hand. Changing the plug in an engine that is balky can often times bring wondrous results.

Champion, A-C, Auto-Lite and Blue Crown were some of the major brands. Some sizes can still be purchased at hobby supply shops. The V-2 is currently the most popular size and is used in my model Economy engine. The V size is used in the model Atkinson Cycle engine. Joe M. Tochtrop, 2028 McAllister Street, San Francisco, California 94118.

A Closing Word

We continue our series on lathes this issue with an illustration of the Hamilton lathe as shown in the June 1898 issue of Machinery magazine. By this time, machinists were finding out that constant use of the lead screw would make it wear more quickly, and when it came time to cut threads, they would no longer be as accurate as before. Note that at the left of the lathe is a pair of cone pulleys, thus providing variable speeds to the feed rod at the bottom. The lead screw is used only for cutting threads, and a sizable stack of loose gears was also included with the lathe. Note also that the overhead drive with its cone pulley is equipped with two clutch pulleys. This was to provide forward or reverse motion to the spindle, since one clutch was driven by a straight belt, and the other with a crossed belt. Change gear boxes began coming into the scene during the 1880s but were not especially popular until after 1900. In fact, many machinists looked at the quick change box as an expensive toy for which they had no need.

A surprising number of these old lathes are still in existence. We'd bet that if a poll was taken among our readers, we would find all kinds of lathes that are near or past the century mark, and still in use! It is also of interest that any repair shop of 1900 having a lathe like this one was considered to be a point of interest in the community! I recall hearing old timers telling about when one of my great-uncles got a lathe in our little town about the turn of the century, it created quite a stir. For some years, it was the only lathe in the area. Otherwise, the only alternative was to go to a large machine shop about 14 miles away. Either by taking the local train (and then lugging the piece to and from the depot) or taking a team and buggy was the only way of getting there until automobiles came along, and in our community the first one of those didn't come until 1910. By the way, that first automobile in our town was one of those high-wheelers from International Harvester Company.

One should also keep in mind that the lathe is the only machine that can reproduce itself. Suitable attachments might be needed to make it happen, but the bottom line is that no other machine tool can do that. We'll have more next month!


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