A Brief Word

| March/April 2001

  • Unidentified Engine

  • Unidentified Tractor
  • Unidentified Tractor
  • Hardie Sprayers
  • Stover Engine
  • Wall 4 Engine
  • Sturdevant rock crusher
  • Engine Cart
  • Engine cart
  • Stover Engine
  • Trip Mechanism
  • Unidentified Tractor
  • Unidentified Engine
  • Unidentified Engine

  • Unidentified Engine
  • Unidentified Tractor
  • Unidentified Tractor
  • Hardie Sprayers
  • Stover Engine
  • Wall 4 Engine
  • Sturdevant rock crusher
  • Engine Cart
  • Engine cart
  • Stover Engine
  • Trip Mechanism
  • Unidentified Tractor
  • Unidentified Engine
  • Unidentified Engine

Well, here we are in early January having outlived one of the snowiest Decembers to come along in several years (at least here in eastern Iowa). Quite by coincidence, we came across some old photos of a gigantic snow blower mounted on a special car, and pushed by two or three locomotives. We can only imagine what it was like to have watched that machine clearing the tracks. One can barely imagine what it was like for those fellows out there operating those machines. For ye olde Reflector, there would have been no way to have enough clothes, boots, and mittens to stay warm.

We also recall people talking about some of the bad winters of the 1930s. One year, our town was completely isolated. Finally a huge gathering of townspeople armed with shovels scooped out about two miles of road by hand so that traffic could get to a major highway. The only piece of power equipment available was a No. 10 Caterpillar grader with a V-plow on the front, and it was not at all capable of bucking those huge drifts. Eventually a Cat 60 was located with a dozer blade, and it was used to widen the path. For those living in warm climates and having never experienced midwestern winters, you have no idea what you have missed!

By the time this copy is in your hands, our group of 36 will be getting ready to leave for the Australian engine and tractor tour. We're all excited about it, and hope to bring back some nice photos to share with everyone.

Once again, we ask that if you send us an e-mail, that you also include your regular postal address! It is impossible for people with no email to be of any help to you otherwise!

This month we begin with:

36/3/1 Unidentified Engine

Q. Can anyone identify the engine in the photo? It came out of a West Virginia oilfield. On the baseplate of the unit it reads: Mfg. By Washington Pump & Engine Co., Washington, Pennsylvania. The generator is 1 kw. Any help would be appreciated. John K. Widerman, 1021 N. Carrington, Buffalo, NY 82834.

36/3/2 Information Needed

Q. We have a 2 HP Sandow (American Gas Engines, p.132 upper right) that is complete except for the mixer. We don't have much hope of finding one ,so we would like to hear from someone who can give us some pictures and dimensions and then we can build one close to original. We also have nearly completed a 6HP Gade engine (American Gas Engines p. 194, lower right) but we need the dimensions of the ignitor push rod and spring to finish the job. It looks like these parts need to be proportioned just right in order to work. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bob Shields, 212 High St., Reno, NV 89502.

36/3/3 Rock Crusher

Q. See the picture of a Sturdevant rock crusher made at Boston, Mass. I would like to find more information on this machine. It is s/n 1214. Another plate reads: PP&G PLANTWORKS #1 GROUP 15 NUMBER 34. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dominic Centonze, 14 Deck Road, Myerstown, PA 17067; e-mail:

36/3/4 Engine Trucks

Q. See the photos of a small engine cart. I was wondering if anyone could identify it. The front and rear bolsters are cast iron, as well as the wheels. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Jim Windle, 4001 Fox Run Road, Powhatan, VA 23139. E-mail:

36/3/5 Challenge Engine

Q. For my 13th birthday my dad gave me a 2 HP Challenge engine. I would like to find more information on this engine; it is s/n 20803. I would like to know the original color, if it had decals, and when it was built. Any information would be appreciated. Chris Jowett, 157 McKendree Rd., Odessa, MO 64076.

36/3/6 Lauson-Lawton Engine

Q. I recently bought a 2 HP Lauson-Lawton engine in pretty good shape. It is s/n 812. I hope to just clean it before putting it on display. I understand this size was made in the 1908-1917 period. Can anyone give a more precise year of when it was built? Ole Baekkedal, Norsk Motorhistorisk Museum, e-mail:

36/3/7 Sheldon Engine

Robert Riebel, Rt 1, Box 163, Le-Sueur, MN 56058 would like to know the correct colors for a Sheldon engine. If you can help, please contact Mr. Riebel.

36/3/8 McCormick-Deering Engine

Q. What is the correct DuPont paint number for the IHC Model M engines? Lonnie Root, PO Box 158, Atkinson, NE 68713.

A. It is Adirondack Green, DuPont #84155 or Ditzler 40496.

36/3/9 Trip Mechanism

Q. See the photo of a trip mechanism I found at a sale. Can anyone tell me the engine this might have been used on? The Wico magneto s/n has only five digits. Pat Becker, 117 N. 2nd St., Waterford, WI 53185. E-mail:

36/3/10 Thanks!

To Ted H. Stein, 3228 - 180th St., Fort Madison, IA 52627. He sent along a letter discussing the matter of water injection on kerosene stationary and tractor engines. As many of you know, water was added to the air/fuel mixture to retard pre-ignition. We talked about this in GEM perhaps ten years ago. In the near future we will have to revisit this matter. Thanks Ted!

36/3/11 Stover Engine

Q. I have a 2 HP Stover engine, Type KA, and s/n KA 159908. Would like to know when it was built, correct color, etc. Douglas Poor, 12058 Adams, Yucaipa, CA 92399.

A. Your engine was built in 1924. It is comparable to DuPont 2015 Green. That's all the information we have.

36/3/12 Gibson Style D

Gregory J. LeClair, 117 South St. #3, Waukesha, WI 53186 would like to find more information on a 4 HP Style D, s/n 10362. He also inquires about a McCormick-Deering engine, 1 HP, s/n W65818; it was built in 1928.

36/3/13 Clinton Engines

Max Koone, 723 Flynn Rd., Rutherfordton, NC 28139 reports that Clinton Engines Corp can also be contacted at: CEPCP, PO Box 860, Maquoketa, IA 52606-0860 or e-mail at:

36/3/14 Ford Industrial Engine is looking for information on a Ford Industrial 6 cylinder engine, Type 7HNN, 3.3x4.4 inch bore and stroke, and 226ci. Sorry, we don't have a regular mail address.

36/3/15 Fairbanks-Morse

Q. While restoring a 1919 Fairbanks-Morse Z engine, I found black paint under the nameplate, but no sign of green. Was this engine originally painted black? Any information would be appreciated. Stan Agacinski, 1411 Burkett Ave., Verga, NJ 08093. E-mail:

A. It is entirely possible. Actually, the 'black' used on the larger oil engines was closer to a bluish black, or you might say a blackish blue. Black we would say, with the slightest hint of blue. Perhaps they were out of green paint that day, or perhaps the engine was part of a package for a power plant and they painted all the engines the same color. Unusual, but entirely possible!

36/3/16 Unidentified Engine

Q. See the photos of an unidentified engine. It is two cylinder, with one cylinder being the engine and the other an air compressor. It runs fine, and came out of a fish cannery at Sand Point, Alaska. It looks like a marine engine that has been factory converted into an air compressor. The only identification is cast into the block: ENT. ENG G2. Any help would be appreciated. Frank O'Meara, 19991 Birchwood Loop, Chugiak, AK 99567. E-mail:

36/3/17 Unidentified Tractor

Q. See the three photos of a tractor I am trying to identify. It has the letters 'LT' and a number suffix on most parts; the front steering arms are made of brass. I do not believe it has the original engine. Any help would be appreciated. Donald Miller, 3807 W. Washington Rd., Pentwater, MI 49449.

36/3/18 Carter Pump

Q. I just acquired a Carter self-priming centrifugal pump Model 5 M, s/n 40952, pat. No. 2451030. It was made by Ralph B. Carter Co., Hackensack, NJ. Can anyone tell me more about this unit? I would gladly pay for photocopies of any information. Your help is appreciated. John G. Boyd, 1921 La Salle St., Martinez, CA 94553.

36/3/19 Sprayers

Q. Regarding the pictures in the November 2000 GEM, here are a couple pictures of my sprayers. The first is a Hardie, No. SCCDA 5630. It is a two-piston model with a 1 7/8 x 4 inch bore and stroke. It is powered by a Stover CT1 engine. That dates it to 1933. The second is also a two-cylinder piston pump of more modern design. It was probably built in the late 1940s or early 1950s. I do not know the make. Can anyone identify this unit? Any help would be appreciated. Brenton T. Mackey, 2992 W. Fremont Rd., Port Clinton, OH 43452

36/3/20 Old Tools

Thanks to Herb Higginbottom, 91 Deep Creek Rd., Enderby, BC V0E 1V3 Canada. He sent us a large stack of old tool illustrations for use in our Antique Tool Book. Thanks for your help, Herb!

36/3/21 Novo Engine

Norm Stobert, 5374 E. St. Joseph Hwy, Grand Ledge, MI 48837 has a Novo 'fluted hopper' engine, s/n AG25507. We have 1931 as the year built but no other information. Can anyone provide the proper color? We think the color varied, especially if it was shipped to a contractor. Oftentimes, they had all their machinery painted the same color, regardless of make. Norm can also be reached at:

36/3/22 A Beautiful Model!

Al Kapik, 1411 N. Ottawa St., Lincoln, IL 62656 sends along a photo of his Wall 4 engine. Al built the engine shortly after the start of World War Two when he was a machinist's mate aboard the USS Dixie, a new destroyer tender. At the time, the kit cost $50. Al comments that he believes these kits can still be purchased from: Coles Power Models, PO Box 788, Ventura, CA 93001.

A Closing Word

Well folks, that winds things up for this month. As we write this, we're a bit under the weather with bronchitis and some other winter things, so we'll close in time for the mailman to pack the column off to GEM; they in turn do their thing of turning it all into nice neat pages, and from there it goes to the printer. After all this comes the mailing ...we'll hope that with the latest round of postal increases the magazine will come to you with lightning speed. In the internet world, e-mail is often compared to 'snailmail,' and of course this refers to the postal system. We're confident that the new 34 cent postage will take care of that problem.

Hopefully, we'll be able to take care of the next issue, unless of course we're tied up with final plans for the Australia tour. At any rate, when March 7 rolls around (our due date for the column) ye olde Reflector plans to be in Australia. However, Linda is a very capable lady, and you'll hardly notice my absence.

The purpose of the 'Reflections' column is to provide a forum for the exchange of all useful information among subscribers to GEM. Inquiries or responses should be addressed to: REFLECTIONS, Gas Engine Magazine, P. O. Box328, Lancaster, PA 17608-0328.


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