| March/April 1995

  • Garden Tractor
  • Special Electric engine

  • vertical with pump
    Alamo vertical with pump unit.
  • Gas multiply

  • ALCO

  • Garden Tractor
  • Old Tiller
  • 2 HP Fairbanks-Morse Model
  • Engine
  • Unidentified Engine
  • Unidentified Engine
  • Continental Industrial Engine
    The RED SEAL Continental Industrial Engine, Power Unit, Model P10, right-hand side with cover removed, is shown at left; RED SEAL Continental Industrial Engine Model Y2, exterior view, right-hand side, is shown at right.
  • Continental Industrial Engine

  • Garden Tractor
  • Special Electric engine
  • vertical with pump
  • Gas multiply
  • ALCO
  • Garden Tractor
  • Old Tiller
  • 2 HP Fairbanks-Morse Model
  • Engine
  • Unidentified Engine
  • Unidentified Engine
  • Continental Industrial Engine
  • Continental Industrial Engine

With this issue, we have the details regarding the 1995 GEM Tour to Ger many and other countries. It will come in at about $2,500 per person, including airfare from New York or Chicago. (See further details about the trip on page 7). Although some might wish for more engine and tractor collections, we believe that Wade Farm Tours has done an excellent job of balancing out the tour so that there are attractions for everyone. The tour packet is now ready, and is available from GEM. If you're interested, give them a call and we're sure you will agree that this is a fine trip, and very reasonably priced.

We're very short on correspondence this month ... no doubt everyone was busy with the Holidays. Perhaps it's true that even engines and tractors take a backseat to Santa Claus!

Our first query is:

30/3/1 An Old Garden Tractor

Q. See the photos of an old garden tractor; there is no identifying information on any of the cast iron parts. Any information on this old tractor and the engine would be greatly appreciated. Robert Clauson, 3159 State Rte. 228, Alpine, NY 14805.

A. Can anyone identify this machine?

30/3/2 Information Needed

Q. What is the year built of a Witte 5 HP, s/n B21705; Witte 6 HP, s/n 9264; and Fuller & Johnson 1 HP, s/n 94529? Vester A. Gillette, 412 N. Monroe, Olathe, KS 66061.

A. The years built are in order; 1925, 1913,1925.

30/3/3 Rumely Models

Edwin Bredemeier, Route 1, Box 13, Steinauer, NE 68441 writes:

The 'A' tricycle style Rumely Do All story brought back memories of another Rumely tractor. At one time Rumely built two models of a tractor that carried the plows under the tractor frame and the plow could be detached, the seat flipped over and the tractor could be used for drawbar and belt work. There used to be one of these models owned by Bob Trauger of Exeter, Nebraska. Are there any other models around?

Let's hear about them through GEM; that way their records will be permanent.

30/3/4 Waterloo BRONCO Tractors

A roster is being compiled of all Waterloo BRONCO tractor serial numbers (found on dash plate) and the tractor owners in Canada and the United States. This is a unique little tractor, only produced during 1948-1950 by the Waterloo Manufacturing Company, Waterloo, Ontario. They were distributed by Frick Company, Waynesboro, Pennsylvania, as well as some Minneapolis-Moline dealers, and dealers throughout Canada.

This listing would not be published, but each BRONCO owner who responds would receive a copy. Write to Barbara Dawson, 6 Cormeck Cres., Brace bridge, Ontario P1L 1R3 Canada to be included in this interesting study.

30/3/5 Information Needed

Q. What is the year built of the following engines: Stover CT1, s/n TA217348 and Taylor Vacuum, s/n14038? Allan Lausher, 717 Oakley Ave., Joliet, IL 60436.

A. The Stover was built in 1933. Taylor apparently began building these engines in the 1920s, but we have no information on how long they were built.

30/3/6 An Old Tiller

Q. See the photo of an old tiller I found in a junkyard. Can anyone provide information on it, including the make, and when it was made? F. J. Leonardo, Route I, Box 496, Winnie, TX 77665.

30/3/7 F-M Model H 

Q. I have a  H, as shown in the photo, s/n 154833. Any information on this engine would be greatly appreciated. The carburetor and igniter are missing. Also, I need to know about timing, and any other instructions or information on this engine. Art England, 204 -216th SW, Bothell, WA 98021.

A. Specific information on the 'H' engines isn't so easy to find, at least in our experience, but if you can be of help, please do so.

30/3/8 Information Needed

Q. See the photo; it appears to be of a large horizontal side shaft engine. The babbitt sleeve bearing on the mounting plate is about 13/8 inches in diameter. On the drive pulley housing behind the top half of the brass throttle arm are letters 'JDA'. On the opposite side is a milled flat with a 'Serial No.' The governor balls are 2 inches and held by a flat leaf spring and move down rather than up when they swing out. Any information on this photo would be appreciated. Clem Te Bow, PO Box 1057, Meadow Vista, CO 95922.

30/3/9 Unidentified Engine

Q See the photos of an engine from a local scrap yard It has no tag nor can we find any identification such as casting numbers The closest thing is on page 388 of American Gas Engines under Phelps Motor Company The engine has a 3 x 3 inch bore and stroke and is equipped with a Kingston carburetor Any information will be appreciated Dick Brown, 175 Sonnet Ln Gilbertville, KY 42044.

30/3/10 Gardner-Denver Pump

Q. I have a Gardner-Denver air or steam engine, 2 x 3 x 2 inches, AB33, s/n 108116. The engine head is AB6; the pump head says AB35; it's a commercial water pump and engine with four opposing cylinders. Any information or help on this question would surely be appreciated, especially a manual or something as to how it is lubricated, etc. Robert Stegman 1185 Bret Harte Rd., Box 423, Angels Camp, CA 95222.

30/3/11 Olds Engine

Q. We have an Olds Type A, No. 1 engine, shop no. F9941, 1 HP. Need to know the color scheme, recommended rpm, and the best type of battery setup for the ignition. J. Otis Mellenbruch, Route 5, Box 126, Rye, CO 81069.

30/3/12 Delco Plants

Thanks to Joe Janshen, 4975 E. Lamm Rd., Freeport, IL 61032 for sending us a Delco-Light folder of 1927. It illustrates nine different models, plus special units for use in telephone plants. Also included are the Delco water systems and Frigidaire electric refrigerators.

Ye olde Reflector still recalls getting roped into helping a neighbor take out one of those old Frigidaire units with the compressor in the basement. We decided to pinch off the copper lines in two places, then cut in the middle so we could get the compressor and the box separated, and then haul all of it out side. We didn't get one of them pinched off completely tight, and this stinky stuff leaked into the basement before we got the compressor hauled outside. In short, we sure did clear out the house, and there weren't any mice for at least six months!

A Closing Word

Next month we'll likely have a great many questions ... it just seems to work that way sometimes. However, this gives us a chance to include some interesting items within the column, such as the Continental P10 power unit, also sold as the Y2 Industrial motor.

A few of these are still around, they were capable of 8 to 14 horsepower with speeds varying from 1000 to 2200 rpm. Bore and stroke dimensions were 35/8 x 4 inches for a 76 cid in this two-cylinder motor.

Also of interest is a linen tracing called 'Horsepower at a Glance' showing the output for every 100 rpm in engine speed. Perhaps this chart might be helpful for those instances when no nameplate is left or the horsepower was not included on the plate.

GEM readers might also find it of interest that Alamo built an extensive line of Special Electric engines up to 120 horsepower. A chart showing the entire line and specifications for same will be found adjacent to this column. Also this month we include a factory photo of an Alamo vertical with a pump unit. No information accompanies the photo however.

Finally, we close this issue with information on the Alamo (ALCO) drag saw, taken from a 1920 pamphlet. The brochure describes the rig as follows: 'The Alco one man drag saw outfit is practical for the Farmer as well as the Woodsman, since the Engine may also be used for all such work as buzzing limbs, grinding feed, operating Milking Machines or Cream Separators, churning, pumping water or any number of things around the farm, by merely throwing off belt on large saw pulley and connecting to the machine you wish to drive. No rusty burrs to unscrew; no bent and twisted cotter pins to pull out. Handy two-wheel truck to move outfit from place to place. Engine evenly balanced over axle, taking weight off operator. Also eliminates all unnecessary vibration. A useful plant to have around the farm.

'Special Alco features . . . The ma chine cut gears are protected by strong durable shield. An eccentric is built in the large gear which gives the saw the same even rocking motion as if done by hand. This eccentric keeps the saw dust cleaned away from the saw and speeds up the cut making it a faster cutting outfit.'

Alco specifications: 2 HP four cycle Alamo engine, easily develops 3 HP; Webster oscillating magneto; suction feed type carburetor; four inch, three ply waterproof belt; LaSure friction clutch pulley; friction disc on saw bracket pulley; Disston saws, five or six foot lengths; 20-inch truck wheels; 21 inch cutting stroke; 200 strokes per minute normal, 150 strokes minimum, 250 strokes maximum; eccentric log hook clamps instantly; oil cured Pitman; saws from 25 to 40 cords of wood per day.

We've never seen much material on the Alco, and presume it didn't go so far as the competing Ottawa and Witte drag saws. Thus, we thought you folks might be interested in seeing some photos and specs all in one place at the same time.

We'll see you next month!

The purpose of the Reflections column is to provide a forum for the exchange of all useful information among subscribers to GEM. Inquiries or responses should be addressed to: 

REFLECTIONS, Gas Engine Magazine, P.O. Box 328, Lancaster, PA 17608-0328.


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