Readers' Engine Questions
38/6/8: Unidentified two-cylinder engine paired to Onan generator.
38/6/1: Query of the Month -Air-Cooled Novo
A picture on page 352 of C.H. Wendel's American Gasoline Engines Since 1872 shows a Novo air-cooled engine identical to one I own. Wendel notes in his book that, 'Little is known of this 1940ish Novo air-cooled engine.' My engine came from a factory surplus sale in Cincinnati, Ohio.
The engine is crank start and is equipped with an American Bosch magneto, a Zenith carburetor and has a 3-1/4-inch bore and 4-inch stroke. This original Novo starts easily and runs well. It is still coupled to its original pump and is on its original two-wheeled cart. I would like to find original sales literature, dates of manufacture and horsepower ratings. Any information would be greatly appreciated, and I will return postage on any correspondence. Garry Wilson, 70 Ward Cemetery Road, Corbin, KY 40701, (606) 528-4740.
38/6/2: Unidentified Rototiller
I recently acquired this rototiller, but there is no name on it. Can anyone tell me who made it and when? Keep up the good work. Ralph Davis, P.O. Box 2, Macfarlan, WV 26148.
38/6/3: Unidentified Engine
I've worn out two photos passing them around at shows and swap meets trying to identify this engine, but with no success to date. I think perhaps I should have done what I'm doing now, first.
There are no numbers or letters cast or stamped on the engine. I suspect from the way the cooling fan is set up it may have been used in an automobile. I would appreciate any and all info I can get on this engine.
Keep the magazine coming - it's the highlight of the month in our house. John Popovich, 1507 102nd Ave. W., Duluth, MN 55808, (218) 626-1043.
38/6/4: Gray Engine, Part One
I have a small hit-and-miss engine that I am having trouble finding very much information about. I have determined that it is a Gray engine. The only markings I can find are '1H2' on the head and '1.4.871' on the top edge of the head. It has a 3-inch bore and a 3-1/2-inch stroke. Any information anyone has would be greatly appreciated. R.J. Duckwall, 1600 Trio Lane, Ponca City, OK 74604.
38/6/5: Gray Engine, Part Two: Q: I recently purchased a 5 HP Gray Motor Co. engine manufactured in Detroit, Wis. I am looking for any information, especially the correct color for these engines. I'm also searching for information and color on a 700 HP Joy engine. Joseph Lenahan Jr., 15 Pine Ledge Dr., Oxford, CT 06478, (203)-735-3564.
A: The only color reference we can find for Gray engines built by Gray Motor Co. is in Wendel's Notebook. DuPont RS903 red is listed for stationary engines and DuPont DS017 gray is listed for marine engines. We have no information on the Joy engine.
38/6/6: Sterling Engine Q: I have a Sterling 1-1/2 HP hit-and-miss engine. I know that this engine is rare and I am having problems finding the year it was made.
The serial number is 88844 and the tag states, 'Sterling Machinery Corporation, Kansas City.' Any help would be greatly appreciated. Matt Fissel, 2811 Whitney Lane, Hebron, KY 41048, or e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
A: We contacted our Kansas City engine man, Ted Brookover, thinking he might know something about your engine, and indeed he did. According to Ted, your engine is actually a Witte built under contract. Ted notes there's a major street in Independence (a suburb of Kansas City) by that name where there was once a great deal of industry. If it is a Witte, your serial number would make it of 1930 vintage.
38/6/7: Judson Engine Q: I am interested in finding information on a C.S. Judson Co. 1-1/2 HP engine made in Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada. I'm interested in decals for the engine and/or a photograph of the decal. Thomas Bond, 9164 N. Round Barn Road, Fountain City, IN 47341, or e-mail: email@example.com
A: Your engine is actually a Stover Style K made by Stover Manufacturing & Engine Co., Freeport, Ill. C.S. Judson was evidently a mail order company, and it appears Stover supplied most of their engines. The only reference we could find for a decal was a 1913 4-1/2 HP C.S. Judson featured in the February 1986 issue of GEM. However, the decal on the 4-1/2 HP engine, while oval, has a horizontal orientation, while yours appears to be vertically inclined.
38/6/8: Onan Generator
I'd like to get some information on this unit, as I don't know what kind of engine this is. It's two-cylinder, water-cooled, and the only markings I can find on the engine are; W2C 12004 1942. The Onan generator is a Model W3M, serial number 13-53724, 115 volts, 3,000 watts. It looks like it was definitely made for this engine, or perhaps it was the other way around. One person thought the engine looked like a Buda.
I'd be interested in any manuals, parts, etc., on both the engine and the generator. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ronald W. Ebright, 10595 Heeter Road, Brookville, OH 45309-8396.
I need info on an Associated 3/4 HP engine, serial number 20105. I picked it up at a local flea market in exchange for a Maytag twin and $100. I need to know how to tell it from a Pony or a Chore Boy. Does anybody have parts for the thing? A gasket set would be a nice start. Also, the starter bracket is missing but the belt is there and handle is complete. Daniel P. Blews, 200 Conkle Ave., New Castle, PA 16101.
38/6/10: 150 Years of J.I. Case Q: I would like to know if you have, or know where I can get, a copy of Wendel's book 150 years of J.I. Case. I've heard it's out of print, and I didn't get it before because I didn't have a Case tractor.
About five years ago a good friend started to restore his BT Case Model C. He got about half done and passed away. A year ago his son asked me if I wanted it. He can't finish it, so now I have a Case tractor and would like to learn more about Case. Keep up the great job on Reflections. Edward J. Treso, 3428 E. Dodge Road, Clio, MI 48420.
A: Unfortunately, you've heard correctly. The book is indeed out of print, and we haven't been able to find anyone who has a copy for sale, even on eBay. Perhaps one of our readers knows better and can point you to a source.
38/6/11: Delco Generator
I have an old Delcolite generator that I am trying to find information on. It is a 4-B-12, 400 watt, 12-volt generator, serial number 41500. It is mounted in a wooden box (with cover) that looks like it might be original equipment. There are two wood handles that slide onto clips on either side for carrying the unit (one person in front and one in back). I'm not sure if it was military or not. It is a complete unit, although I have not tried to run it yet. The gas smells old and I am waiting for this Maine weather to warm up so I can try to get it running.
It has a unique carburetor system; a tube runs across the top of the engine, and the butterfly is located near the end of the tube. I would appreciate any info or links to other places where I may be able to find information on this. Gene Giddings, e-mail at: gene firstname.lastname@example.org
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