A Brief Word
Here's Preston Foster presenting an award on the behalf of Coolspring Power Museum and engine collectors everywhere to Mr. Verne Kindschi, Prairie du Sac, Wisconsin. Verne has provided information to thousands of Fuller & Johnson enthusiasts over the year
The Great Fuller & Johnson Reunion held in August had several highlights. Among them was the presentation of an award to Verne Kindschi for his efforts in bringing over 160 Fuller & Johnson engines together at Baraboo, Wisconsin. Mr. Preston Foster, representing the Cool spring Power Museum, presented a beautiful plaque to Verne for his efforts, and aptly naming him 'Mr. Fuller & Johnson.' Thanks to Preston for bringing along some camera equipment, and thanks to his daughter Kim, for taking some photographs of the presentation.
The 1992 show season is about over, and what a season it's been! With every year comes a greater enthusiasm for vintage engines and tractors, along with a better appreciation of our mechanical past.
Although the vast majority of visitors to the shows are honest and trustworthy, we should also keep in mind that those who sometimes live by less than honorable means also see these shows as a means to further their livelihood. Ye olde Reflector can personally relate to this statement. At a recent show, we lost our flatbed trailer. It was either stolen, or just walked away on its own power. Those who perpetrated the dastardly deed probably could care less about our hobby, or anything else for that matter.
We're not relating this tale of woe as a sympathy getter . . . the word 'sympathy' has a low place in the dictionary. What we're suggesting to our readers is that perhaps it's time to be a bit more cautious about securing our vehicles and whatever else needs to be secured. Whenever we build another trailer, it'll be secured as much as possible when it's unattended, and our suggestion is that we might all do more of the same.
Did you drain all those engines and tractors? If it isn't already too late, better check 'em again to be sure!
Our sincere thanks to the literally thousands of folks who stopped by the GEM booth at the Midwest Old Threshers Reunion. Many of you just stopped by to shake hands and say hello, and we want you to know it was appreciated! We enjoyed visiting with all of you, even if only for a few minutes. A number of visitors came from England, and we had the chance to visit with several of them. How enjoyable! Hopefully, things will come together for a visit in 1993 to a couple of engine ral-lyes in England. We also met several folks from Australia and New Zealand at the Old Threshers Reunion.
Our questions and comments this month begin with:
27/12/1 Address Correction Thanks for publishing my article on model hot air engines in the September 1992 GEM. When I wrote the article I had just received new stationery from the printer and there was an error in the address that I failed to notice. In the article my address was given as 17333 - 34th St., and it should be 17333 - 34th St S. If anyone had their letter returned, please try again, using the correct address-Charles A. Jones.
27/12/2 Kesselring Writes Paul Kesselring, 1408 N. Van Buren, Ottumwa, IA 52501 writes the following, and presents us with some new information:
The Ottumwa-Moline engines were a two-cycle gas engine manufactured for about seven years at 802 S. Madison Street in Ottumwa.
On page 246 of Encyclopedia of American Farm Tractors is a picture of an experimental tractor by the Sioux City Foundry & Mfg. Company, Sioux City, Iowa. It used an engine made by the Ottumwa-Moline factory. This tractor was never put into production.
The Ottumwa-Moline Company was started in 1911 with George Killinger as president, G. O. Dietz as vice-president, and R. A. Clifton as secretary. In 1915 the company was reorganized with George M. Felgar, president, and Killinger as treasurer. At the same time, John G. Schafer became secretary. By 1919 the company was out of business, and the following year the Iowa Motor Truck Company was located at 802 S. Madison.
George Killinger resided at 218 N. Washington Street in Ottumwa. Gottlieb Dietz lived at Moline, Illinois. George M. Felgar lived at Trenton, a small unincorporated village in Henry County, Iowa. John G. Schafer lived at Wayland, Iowa.
In my research I could not find any reference to the pump production. This was one of the short-lived manufacturing ventures in Ottumwa.
Two other early manufacturing ventures in the Ottumwa area were:
John Keck of Fairfield, Iowa had a foundry and planing mill in the 1860s. In 1868 he branched out from his foundry into building threshing machines. This business went under in the 1870s.
John and Louis Keck, along with Louis Gonnerman, established the Keck-Gonnerman company in 1873 at Mt. Vernon, Indiana. They built steam engines, threshers, and sawmills. In 1917 they entered the tractor business. The company existed until World War Two.
Iowa Malleable Iron Company of Fair-field, Iowa was established in 1904. William Louden was the first president, and Joseph Dain was the first vice-president. Dain had his hay tool company in Ottumwa, but without a foundry, he joined the Louden company to have a source for his castings. [ Dain later sold out to Deere & Company.] At the present time, Iowa Malleable Iron Company is in receivership. They hope to be back in business after reorganizing.
27/12/3 A $350,000 Mistake Don Siefker, 705 W. Annie Drive, Muncie, IN 47303 sends a clipping from the September 3, 1991 issue of The New York Times. It seems that a man from Gladstone, Missouri mistakenly had his 1945 Farmall tractor assessed at $9.6 million by the county. He corrected the error on the tax bill, but the local school district didn't know about the error, so they were expecting in the order of $350,000 in taxes. They learned of the error after they had already adopted their new budget. [At $9.6 million, that surely must be some tractor!]
27/12/4 Ferguson ColorsQ. / have a Ferguson TO-20, s/n 14000, and a Ferguson TO-35, s/n 162254-What is the original color combination for these tractors? The book, The New Ferguson Album, states that the TO-20 should be grey and the TO-35 should be grey/green. Does anyone have the proper paint codes for these paints? Any help will be appreciated. Gregory Voelker, 37 Chestnut Hill, E. Hampton, CT 06424.
A. We have Martin-Senour 90T-3481 as being the proper match for Ferguson tractors pre-1957. We have nothing further on Ferguson, so can anyone provide this information?
27/12/5 Writing to Reflections The question frequently arises as how to write to this column. It's very simple. Write out your questions or comments in your own words. Especially if you are trying to identify something, some photos will be very helpful. It's very difficult to answer any question regarding an unidentified engine without at least having some photos to go along with your letter. As with other articles for GEM, just send your queries and comments to: Reflections, Gas Engine Magazine, Box 328, Lancaster, PA 17603.
27/12/6 Detroit Mower Q. I have a Detroit mower, built by Detroit Harvester Company, Detroit, Michigan. It has a side-mount power take off unit, two-speed gear box, and a six-foot cutter bar. Any information will be appreciated. Russ Schafer, 14050 Grafton, Carleton, Ml 48117.
A. Can anyone be of help on this unit?
27/12/7 Stover-Economy EngineQ. I have a Sears Economy engine made by Stover Mfg. Company, 2 HP, s/n TA231585 SR. What is the original color of this engine? Keven Seifermann, 3775 Sterling Dr., St. Cloud, MN 56301.
A. Your engine was built in 1936. We believe it to have been essentially of the same red finish as was used on the Economy engines that formerly came from Hercules. We have DuPont 674 Red listed as a comparable match.
27/12/8 Foos and Sattley QuestionsQ. I have a Sattley 7 HP built by Nelson Bros. It was painted grey and I can see that it had pin striping but I do not know the color of the striping. Any information will be appreciated.
I also have a 2? HP Foos Jr. engine. I can see the engine color and the design of the name, but it looks as if the name was white and orange or white and red. What is the correct color? Dennis Shimmin, PO Box A, Lewellen, NE 69147.
A. Can anyone be of help on this question?
27/12/9 Onan Fairbanks-MorseQ. See the photo of an engine sold by Fairbanks-Morse, but built by Onan. It is a Model 1B-7, s/n 116.326799, rated 2? HP. Can anyone tell me when this engine was built? Vincent Durham, Site 8 Comp 34RR1, Sicamous, BC V0E 2V0 Canada.
A. We have no information on this model. Anyone out there who can help?
27/12/10 Gilson TractorQ. We have recently acquired a very rare Canadian-made tractor, a ca. 1918 Gil-son, made by the Gilson Mfg. Co. in Guelph, Ontario. We believe that this model of Gilson was based on the Plow Man or Plow Boy tractor made in Waterloo, Iowa by the Interstate Tractor Company, later known as the Plow Man Tractor Company.
Our tractor had undergone rather dramatic modifications during its life, and in order to res tore it to its original appearance, we are searching for information. We would appreciate hearing from anyone with literature on, or examples of, Plow Man, Plow Boy, or Gilson tractors.
Further, our tractor is equipped not with the Buda engine used by Plow Man tractors, but with a four-cylinder engine marked Colby Motor Company, Mason City, Iowa. Research has shown that this engine would have been made, possibly by the Excelsior Motor Company, for use in Colby motor cars, made in small numbers between 1911 and 1914. Thus we would appreciate hearing from anyone with literature on Excelsior motors or Colby cars. Has anyone heard of these engines being used in tractors?
Any help on this project will be greatly appreciated. Peter Led-with, Curator of Collections, Ministry of Agriculture & Food, PO Box 38, Milton, Ontario L9T 2Y3 Canada.
A. If anyone can be of help, please contact Mr. Ledwith.
27/12/11 Jiffy MowerQ. See the photo of a Jiffy Mower, Wichita, Kansas. Can any of the readers give me any information on this mower, including its age, proper color scheme, etc.? Any help will be appreciated. Brad E. Smith, 7574 So. 74 St., Franklin, WI 53132.
A. We've never heard of this one before. Anyone out there who can help?
27/12/12 What is It?Q. See the photo of unidentified machine. It was found in the trunk of an old car. We were told by one person that it might have had something to do with windmills. Another said that it could have been used as air pressure to a line of factory-run sewing machines. Can anyone identify this machine? Richard Simmons, Stone Arabia Rd., Scotia, NY 12302.
A. We haven't a clue . . . who knows what this is?
27/12/13 Kling Bros. EngineQ. See the three photos of a very old engine. It was built by Kling Bros., Chicago, Illinois. It is called the Chicago Gas & Gasoline Engine, no. 561, patented 10/29/1898 and 11/26/1898. Any information on this engine will be greatly appreciated. Gene Reed, 1546 Dranesville Rd., Hemdon, VA 22070.
A. We checked the Patent Office Gazette. In October, the patent would have been issue on October 25, and in November it would have been November 29 for that year. Patents are always issued on Tuesday of each week. Further, no reference to Kling or Kling Bros is shown in the index. Either the year or the date is incorrect, and without them, we can't do much research so far as the patents are concerned. In addition, we've checked a file card index we've made up over the years of engine patents. The name of Kling does not appear there either. Regardless, yours is a most unusual engine.
27/12/14 Maytag Washing MachineQ. Ken Fall, 04917 Boyne City Rd., Boyne City, MI 49712 writes an interesting letter regarding the restoration of a Maytag washing machine. He is restoring one of 1930s vintage and wants to put it back to original, including the motor. Can anyone advise Ken on this restoration, including the correct Maytag motor? If you can help, please write to Ken at the above address.
27/12/15 Flywheels & Things Thanks to Mike Sitton, RR 5, Box 221 A, Tylerton, MS 39667. Mike sent along some pages from Machinery's Handbook regarding flywheel designs, safe speeds, etc. It's very technical in some aspects, but most of it is easily understood. When exceeding the safe speed, flywheels, even small ones, can explode with vicious ferocity. Even at the recommended speeds, faulty flywheels can explode. With our usual caveat for safety, never run a flywheel loose in the hub. And ye olde Reflector knows that welded flywheels are being run, along with those with a crooked rim, etc. We'll not presume to tell anyone what to do, but this writer gives that stuff a wide berth. In fact, Mike didn't even allude to the dangers of bad flywheels in his letter, but pick up your copy of Machinery's Handbook or a similar engineering book sometime to see what kind of danger exists.
27/12/16 Thanks! To Andrew Szurek, 2809 Silver Lane NE, Minneapolis, MN 55421 for sending along an operating manual for the Whizzer Bike Motor. It is greatly appreciated.
27/12/17 Leader EngineQ. See the photo of a 3? HP Leader engine, made by Field Force Pump Company, Elmira, New York. It is sin 627, and has a 5 x 6 inch bore and stroke. I would like more information on the engine as well as on the company. The counterweights are not cast into the flywheels but are cast into the crank in disks next to the rod journal. Any information will be appreciated. Dick Mock, 159 Dirkson Ave., West Seneca, NY 14224-1815.
27/12/18 IHC FamousQ. I am restoring my grandfather's engine. It is a 4 HP IHC Victor horizontal, s/n R4134. Can anyone supply operating instructions for this engine? Donald A. Perry, 3760 Quaker Rd., Gasport, NY 14067.
A. Some of the GEM advertisers do indeed have operating instructions for this engine, or at least we believe so. A check of the serial number lists shows that your engine left Harvester's Milwaukee Works in 1912.
27/12/19 Cushman Model C EngineQ. I have a Cushman Model C, 4 HP, s/n 4506. Can anyone date the engine, and also advise the original color? It was apparently a binder engine; are there any pictures of it driving a binder? Any help will be appreciated. David Ayers, 73 Church Road, Wawne, Hull. HU75XL England.
A. We know of no way to date the Cushman engines, however we do have DuPont Dulux 93-62713-H dark green listed as a comparable color match.
27/12/20 Witte InformationQ. Can you tell me the year built of a 2 HP Witte, s/n 79062? Gordon E. Hopper, 75 Kendall Ave., Framingham, MA 01701.
A. Your engine was shipped May 8, 1928 to the Bean Spray Pump Company.
27/12/21 Engine Covers Here's a tip you may want to try. My wife and I have been talking about covers for the engine I carry on a platform I built on the back of our motor home. She suggested I try a cover that is made for a gas grill. I tried one, and it was a perfect fit on my 1? HP Domestic. The cover is also cotton lined which helps protect the paint from wear. Walter R. Isham, 123 Raymond Drive, Hampden, MA 01036-9744.
27/12/22 Little Giant EngineQ. See the photos of a Little Giant engine; it isn't complete, and I need to connect with someone that has one so I can look for what I need. Any help will be appreciated. Harley B. Crawford, 5070 Algiers Dr., Santa Rosa, CA 95409.
27/12/23 Fairbanks-Morse InformationQ. What is the proper color for a Fairbanks Morse 3 HP Type Z engine; also an Olds Type A engine? Alberto Culver (P.R.) Inc., PO Box 360566, San Juan, Puerto Rico 00936-0366.
A. We have PPG 43846 or DuPont 93-72001 Green listed for the Fairbanks-Morse engine. The Olds is similar to Sherwin-Williams 1335 Dark Red.
27/12/24 Notebook Correction In the Paint Colors Section, we have discovered that under Novo engines, DuPont 143 AH Green isn't green at all. The correct color is Centari 4190AH Green. Kindly change this entry in the Notebook.
27/12/25 Witte InformationQ. J have a Witte 2 HP engine, s/n B503379, and need dimensions for the crank guard, possibly a picture. Also, I have a Stover 2 HP of 1923 vintage, with the separate base, and need dimensions, outlet, inlet, etc. of fuel tank. Any help will be appreciated. Gary Montgomery, Box 22, Winslow IL 61089
27/12/26 When Built?Q. What is the year built for the following: 1) Bauer 2 HP, #21352; 2) Witte 7 HP, #B35408; 3) Sattley 1? HP, #74837; 4) Ottawa Log Saw, #E57053; 5) Fairbanks-Morse, #760959. Earl Skiles, 2472 W. 91st Dr., Federal Heights, CO 80221-5180.
A. No. 2 above was built in April 1926; No. 5 was built in 1930. We have no information on the others.
27/12/27 Garden TractorsQ. The Cizek mower, made in Clutier, Iowa looks much like the Roof mower. Was there any connection between these two companies? Also see the photo of a Grander rotary cultivator, made in 1946 by A. Grander & Company of Binningen-Basel, Switzerland. Mr. Grunder was one of the pioneers in rotary tillage, beginning about 1910. Infact, he worked with Mr. Konrad von Meyenburg, who invented the spring-type rotary cultivator. For anyone interested, might 1 recommend the book Gardening Beyond the Plow, published in 1981 by Garden Way Inc., of Troy, New York. Michael Hooijberg, Westdijk 12, 1463 PA Beemster, Netherlands.
Aurora Engine Company We recently queried you about the Aurora Engine Company. Several folks responded, including Richard C. Handley, 2281 Larkspur Ct., Aurora, IL 60506. He sent along some information from the book, Tracks and Combines, published by the American Society of Agricultural Engineers in 1984. It contains some information on the Aurora Engine Company.
27/9/7 John Deere Crawlers Tom Sherry, 132 Hallum St SW, No. Canton, OH 44720 writes:
Operators, Technical Service, and Parts Manuals for most John Deere products are available from Deere & Company. Ask your dealer for a copy of Service Publications for Customers. This publication has ordering information for Agricultural, Industrial, and Consumer Products equipment literature.
27/9/8 Cleveland Formgrader Gary E. Hansen, 207 SW 22nd St., Rochester, MN 55902 writes:
Mr. Osborn's machine is a formgrader made by the Cleveland Formgrader Company, Avon, Ohio. This specialized machine was used to cut a shallow trench for setting forms on highway paving projects. The cutting of the trench and the compaction of the base material by the drive wheel of the machine was done just prior to setting the forms. With the advent of slip-form paving in the 1960s, the need for paving forms and the machines for setting and pulling them, and the crews to operate them, disappeared.
The Cleveland Formgrader Company was the only firm to make these form-graders, as far as I know. I do not know the original color, but most all paving equipment was painted gray. There can be very few of these still in existence or in original condition.
27/9/29 Using Unleaded Fuels Max F. Homfeld, 7964 Oakwood Park Ct., St. Michaels, MD 21663 writes:
Tetraethyl lead was introduced in 1924, and then only in premium Ethyl fuel. It was used to improve octane quality, not to improve valve seat life. I'm not sure when lead began to be added to lower grades of gasoline, but it probably was during the mid-1930s. Some companies did not use lead for years, Sunoco, for example. Even in the late 1950s, the top grade of Amoco was unleaded. I'm saying that a lot of engines did not depend on lead for exhaust valve life. In fact, lead was considered a problem as the deposit would chip off the valve face, causing leakage and valve burning.
By 1970 it was clear that the catalytic converters were going to be needed to meet the ever-tightening exhaust emission limits, and lead poisoned any known catalyst. By then, high output engines were being used in cars, a far cry from the Model T. Engineers soon learned that without lead, they had a problem with exhaust valve seat recession.
Automotive exhaust valves can run red hot at heavy load. Without a lead coating on the valve face and seat, the valve face welded to the cast iron seat and pulled off bits of cast iron. I remember seeing exhaust valves sunk 1/8 inch into the seat. The driver didn't even know it for awhile, as the hydraulic lash adjuster did its job well. The solution was to flame harden the cast iron valve seats. General Motors hardened the seats beginning with the 1975 models, as I recall. Compression ratios were reduced to the lower octane requirements so that high octane fuel would not be required.
In summary, I would not hesitate to run a pre-World War Two engine on unleaded fuel, or to run any engine on it at a light load.
Fordson Industrial Tractors We got lots of comments on the pictures recently included in the column, showing several industrial attachments for the Fordson tractor. A special thanks to Russell Schafer, 14050 Grafton Road, Carleton, MI 48117 for sending along some interesting information. Included was a copy of the 1927 Sales Manual from Tractor Implement 6k Equipment Distributors. It illustrates agricultural and industrial equipment specially tailored for the Fordson.
27/9/27 Unidentified Engine Marshall R. Skinner, 9040 Baysinger, Downey, CA 90241 writes in part:
It appears that this engine is from the Mora Motor Car Company in New York, built from 1906 to 1910, after which it would be safe to assume that there was no Mora, no Mora! In their final year they made a small runabout, Model 20, of 20 horsepower. There is a brief description and a few illustrations of it in the Standard Catalog of American Cars, 1805-1947, Krause Publications, 700 E. State St., Iola, WI 54990.
The possibility of visiting some engine rallyes in England is looking better and better. We've had a lot of responses, and we're working with a travel agent to put together a package. In fact, this particular travel agent has organized several 'engine tours' to the United States for those coming from England over this way. We think this is a great advantage, since these folks are attuned to the kind of tour we would like, and the things we would likely want to see. Our two-week tour would be arranged around the Tat-ton Park 1000 Engine Rally, which is held near Knutsford, just south of Manchester, England. Dates for the tour would be from Saturday, June 19 to Saturday, July 3, with departure from Chicago's O'Hare Airport. We should be receiving more information in mid-October; anyone interested in further details should write directly to GEM at P. O. Box 328, Lancaster, PA 17603.
With every issue of GEM, it seems that previously unheralded engines appear, or that long-forgotten companies are remembered. In the September 1910 issue of Gas Energy, we find the following new corporations: Beveer Gas Engine Company, Kalamazoo, Michigan; Boulevard Engine Company, St. Louis, Missouri; and Gunn Motor Company, East Utica, New York.
Does anyone have any information on these three companies?
We also find that about this same time, it was announced that 'Briggs Bros., well known gas engineers, have designed a new type of engine known as the Chanticleer Engine. The machine is being manufactured by Jacob Haish Co., DeKalb, Illinois.' We also find that 'Ferro Machine 6k Foundry Co., Cleveland, Ohio, is placing a line of two-cycle engines on the market.' Thus, it appears that both the Chanticleer and the Ferro engines saw first light sometime in 1910.
With this issue, GEM closes out twenty-seven years of publishing. Instead of running out of material, it's more obvious than ever that we ain't even started yet! So, send us your articles and queries. We'll try to be of help. Don't worry about grammar or usage; that's part of our job. Sometimes though, we scratch our head, even though we're armed with a dictionary, thesaurus, style books, Mencken's The American Language, and sundry computer helpers.
Perusing early issues of Gas Review, we're always amused at the Uncle Jake stories of long ago. This was a parody of the typical German immigrant who could speak little English, and who understood little of such a mechanical wonder like the gasoline engine. We have no idea who wrote these little stories, but some of them remind us of a few old immigrants we remember from our childhood. Oftentimes, their literal translation from German to English made their conversation rather comical. In this same connection, we recall the story of a man who bought a good-sized engine. The dealer also gave him five gallons of gasoline. In a few days the old fellow called the dealer and told him to come pick up the engine. After getting him cooled down a bit, the dealer said he would come out and see what the problem was. On a hunch, he took along another can of gasoline. Sure enough, the tank was bone dry, and after fueling it up again, the engine was off and running.
Over the years, we've seen a lot of articles that might be entitled, 'My Favorite Engine.' In the next few months, ye olde Reflector will probably stir the kettle among the readers when we present some photos of our favorite engine, along with reasons why it's our favorite. Meanwhile, we'll keep you guessing!