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Hi--to all our friends in Gas Engine Land - we have so many letters requesting information and needs that I'll just start with a pretty good sized letter from ZANE L. RENDER, Box 248, Temple, Texas 76501:

Dear Anna Mae,

'I feel that 1 know you since 1 have read your column so long and enjoyed every bit of information and letters in it.

I have every issue of Gas Engine Magazine since it started publication. They are a prize possession of mine. I read every issue cover to cover as soon as it arrives. I don't have a very large collection of old engines as I am cramped for space. At present time I have 26 gas engines, a model 'H' John Deere tractor, a Big Four John Deere Mower, also a 1905 model John Deere riding sulky plow. As you probably guessed my main love is John Deere equipment. I have four John Deere gas engines and several Maytags. I do have several other brands. Since I do not have much room, I trade quite often so I have had many brands at one time or another.

Now for my request for information, I have written two times before and both letters were published, but I did not receive even one response to my questions. I have read of and talked to several who have received fine responses, therefore, I will try one more time. I acquired a 'BEAN SPECIAL CUB' 4 HP Model 1R6B made by Cushman. I got this engine in Ohio and brought it home in the trunk of my car. No one in this area has ever seen this particular engine. I wrote to the Cushman factory but they informed me they had no literature or information on this engine. We have everything restored on it except the Wico Magneto which is evidently bad, but we have found no way to check it. Visually inside it looks fine, nothing broken, but it will not make a spark. If anyone has any information on this, I shall be happy to receive it. I will answer any correspondence that I may receive. Thanking you for your good work and a very fine magazine, only wishing that it was published every month.'

A friend of ours is seeking help in this letter from EDWIN BREDEMEIER, Steinauer, Nebraska: 'Can you help me find the serial numbers of the following equipment that bore no serial number plates or else they were missing, such as Farmall and F.30 and the following threshers - 26 x 46 Wood Bros., Port Huron 20 x 36, Wood Red River Special 32 x 54, Wood IHC 20 x 36 and Case 20 x 36 and 26 x 46. I would like to find out the age of the above mentioned equipment that I own.

Recently, I read about an implement wrench collector wanting to find a way to identify wrenches that came with new farm equipment. I suggest he draw around the wrench and label it from what machine it came from or came with, when new. I can visualize the possibility of collecting a large number of wrench drawings of original wrenches.' (I can go along with that, but what if he has some wrenches and does not know to what implement they belong, would they be marked - I rather thought he was wondering how to identify some of them.)

G. S. WEDMAN, Box 458, Drayton Valley, Alberta, Canada TOE OMO says: 'Just a few lines to say I enjoy your magazine and pictures of the restored engines. My congratulations to all the fellows who have done such an excellent job on their engines.

I have an Aermotor and it has one flywheel 1?' wide by 20' in diameter and the only markings are Aermotor Co., Chicago and it has the #22 on one spoke. The cylinder is finned, the gas tank holds about 1? pints. The camshaft and pulley are gear driven. The piston is badly seized and I am in the process of restoring it. The ignition system is missing, so if any of you can tell me what type of ignition system was used, I would appreciate hearing from you.'

Another new organization about to have their first gas engine show is the Mid-Michigan Antique Machinery Association at Birch Run, Michigan - June 18 and 19. For information write Merv Baker, 11481 Moorish Road, Birch Run, Michigan 48415. (We wish you folks much success and may this be only the beginning of another active organization.)

GLEN SCROGGINS, Box 93, Hope, Arkansas 71801 has an Ottawa Log Saw and needs some he!p with it. It is a hit and miss gas engine, s/n C26372, flywheels are 2 inches wide and 17 inches high with 4 inch bore. He would like the date and HP. His phone is 501-777-8396.

From THOMAS A. SCHEETZ, 405 Iowa Avenue, Streator, Illinois 61364 a missal: 'I find your magazine very informative and entertaining. I best like the technical articles dealing with the workings and restoration of engines. Being of an age young enough not to be raised with these mechanical wonders, these articles are most valuable. Also any information on the workings of many of the devices that the gas engines operated is appreciated.

As a sidelight, I have a restored 3 HP Witte engine running a 6' IHC Burr Mill. This engine is now in use by two young men in the Woodland FFA Chapter, Streator, Illinois. As Chapter Adviser, I am trying to encourage these young men with their livestock project (4 steers) and expose them to mechanical devices of the past. It seems that the outfit does an adequate job, but the mill is a mite too large and has to be hand fed slowly. But the old Witte pulls like a champ.

I am restoring a New Holland 2 HP engine, Serial 9474 and would like to hear from any collectors that could help me obtain a casting or mold for the brass control plate mounted on the bearing cap. Mine is broken and I need to recast one. Also, what type of lubrication device does the con rod have?

I am looking forward to the summer and the engine shows. I am the proud father of two boys who think the old one lungers are great. My oldest, 2? years, can imitate the sounds of 'Gramps' hit and miss Galloway almost perfectly. Seems like the letter probably over ran its welcome, but I wanted to subscribe, ask for aid and brag a little. Also I want to tell you that you have a great magazine.'

TOM WEBSTER, Box 81, Boones Mill, Virginia 24065 says: 'I need some help from someone out in Reader Land. I have a small Aermotor engine that I think is an 8 cycle. Will someone help me with information on the valve timing and the governor mechanism? Also, I need to know the shape of the cam lobe. I believe someone may have converted this engine to 4 cycle. The engine is an air-cooled with a 3' bore. Any help would be greatly appreciated.'

Over the waters came this letter for help: 'I received your address from a friend of mine and am wondering if anyone can help me with information on my engine. It is called The Pace Maker, Engine No. 8500, 6 HP, Sole Makers, The Temple Pump Co., Chicago, USA. To me, it's a fantastic engine and I would like to see it back in action very soon. What type of gas would it run on or what to do to correct the modern type use?'

ROBERT P. DEAN, Route 3, Box 56, Centreville, Maryland 21617 wants help from anybody and so has requested his letter be put in this column as well as I.M.A.: 'I need information on the restoration of a Peerless Steam Engine - It is necessary for me to strip the boiler of all parts, what is the compound the manufacturers placed between the brackets and boiler. Was this material poured hot or was it a paste like mortar--and then allowed to dry. This material will not melt, only burn slowly, and I am having great difficulty removing it. Can anyone give me some help on what it is and how to remove it and where can I get this stuff when I replace the brackets and the two journals or cannon bearings that carry the main axle and counter shaft. Please, some of you older men, give me some help on this matter.'

BOB COURTNEY, 1525 Lincoln Road, Wilmington, North Carolina 28401 wants you to know: 'I'm in bad need of advice from some of your readers. After a long and desperate search, I recently acquired an old hit and miss engine. It was found in the mountains of Virginia and appears to be complete and in good shape. It has been semi-restored and covered in a heavy coat of red paint. Someone has stenciled on each side of the water hopper the name ARCO. The gentleman I bought the engine from advised me he had painted over a decal on each side with the name ARCO on it. There is a brass plate on top with no name or patent date, but simply states 1? HP, 550 RPM, Serial #252243. It fires from a Webster Tri-Polar Oscillator Type AM and the engine runs well after I dry out the magneto, as this area is very humid.

I would be most appreciative of any G.E.M. readers if they would advise me if they have any information or have even heard of this brand gasoline engine. It is not listed in any books that are available to me, I am very inexperienced regarding old hit and miss engines, but most eager to learn.

Also, your G.E.M. is a GEM. I reread each copy many times.'

Next letter from E. A. BURLEY, 2121 Albertson Pky., Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44223 as he pens these thoughts: 'I never thought I would have to write to the experts, such as Ann Landers and the readers of Gas Engine Magazine, but I am. I have been reading G.E.M. several years and finally got my feet wet and now I can't quit.

My ninth engine is a Cushman 4 HP Model C with alt brass Scheibler carburetor. When I bought this engine it had a 3/8' plug in the only crankcase ventilator. The crankcase oil flies onto the ceiling with this plug removed. With the plug inserted, the crankcase compression pushes the oil out of every bearing and shaft. The compression in the crankcase seems to almost equal the head compression. I have installed new rings and piston is .005 less than the cylinder. Can anyone help or tell me any information on this?'

RICK, 'GUS' AGOSTINUCCI, Bear Hill Road, Middletown, Connecticut 06457 has a lot to tell us: 'Thank you all for your wonderful magazine. I look forward to getting it every two months.

I've started collecting engines three years ago and to date have a 1925 Stover 2 HP hit and miss S.N. KA 175076, single cyl. Maytag, year unknown, S.N. 504890 and a 4 cyl. Novo engine Model #NNV-2? x 4. When I first got the Stover it was in an old Rex concrete mixer. The mixer is all restored and painted in yellow with black trimming. The engine and mixer worked well during the time we used it, to pour concrete for our sidewalk, and never stopped once.

I would like to know if any of your readers have heard of an engine called the Frisbee engine and made in Middletown, Connecticut. I was told about the company, but I haven't seen or heard of these engines being around. I would appreciate anyone telling me of the history of the Frisbee Company.

I also own a 1936 Model EH Mack, presently in restoration. While I'm on the subject of Mack Trucks, a man by the name of Russ Choma talked to me at a show in Southbury, Connecticut and was asking about locations of an old AC Mack Truck. If he would write me at my address, I'll tell him where I've located one for him.

All the gas engine enthusiasts are a good bunch to be around and always have the courtesy to talk to you. You don't have to be a certain age, or have lots of money for anyone to notice you. It seems all the antique engine and machinery collectors are a proud bunch to be around.' (Gus didn't say his age, but I believe he is one of our younger enthusiasts and we welcome his letter.)

GARY TUNKIEICZ, 7514 60th Street, Kenosha, Wisconsin 53140 declares; 'I have a problem that I hope someone can help me with. I recently acquired a Farmall F-20 and don't know the age of it as the serial number plate is missing, and how do I time the magneto to the engine. There are two numbers on the tractor, one on the frame and one on the engine block. The engine number is FA23215 and the frame number is FA85060. Someone told me the frame number is the serial number. That would make my tractor a 1937, but I am not sure, so which number is the serial. Also where are the timing marks located on the engine and what is the correct procedure of timing the magneto to the engine? Did my tractor use the International E4A or F4 magneto and

what type of carburetor did it have? Maybe someone can tell me how long did International build the T-20 crawler? I think Allis Chalmers started building the crawler in 1934, so could somebody tell me about it, years built and any other information about it?'

ROY MEISTER, 4840 Wilson Sharpsville Road, Fowler, Ohio 44418 writes: 'Pretty cold here tonight and my G.E.M. just came today and between my mail box and the house I nearly froze my fingers looking at it. I just couldn't stand it carrying it in - I had to look at it on the way. Anyway I have read a lot of it and will spend another two months looking at it.' (Isn't that something?)

And then from DONALD R. DUFFEY, Route 2, Box 230, Sweet Springs, Missouri 65351 comes the following: 'First of all I would like to say the G.E.M. is the greatest thing that ever happened to the gas engine collector. My father and I have been collecting gas engines for about seven years. We have been getting the G.E.M. for a little over a year and I really regret not subscribing to it sooner. We have 15 engines, all restored except for one. This engine has us completely confused, because it is different than any of our other engines, in fact, we have never heard of, or seen anything like it.

The name plate on the engine is as follows: Dempster Gas Engine, No. 411, Class BB, Millens, Pat. Oct. 11, 1898. The engine has a 6' bore and 36' flywheels. It is a horizontal tank cooled engine. We are sure the engine is a two-cycle, because it has a packing nut on the back of the cylinder, with a crosshead, similar to the cylinder on the side of a steam engine. We think most of the parts are on the engine except the piston was missing when we started restoring it. I would like very much to hear from anyone who has one of these engines or knows anything about it. I am sure it is a rare engine, but maybe there is a G.E.M. reader somewhere that can help me out.'

ERVIN MARTEN, 7969 Fulton Rd., Sterling, Ohio 44276 asks if anyone can tell him how much oil to put in the crankcase of a 'Friend' gas engine, No. EXA14124 with an attached sprayer pump? He would like to get a description of a novelty circular sawmill where the logs remained stationary while the saw travels, built in 1882 by E.M. Birdsall Company of Albury, New York. He also needs information about 'Champion' grain thresher built in Orrville, Ohio from 1875 to 1910. He's been told that the business was sold to a company in Pennsylvania, name unknown. Did they continue to build 'Champion Threshers?' Ervin will appreciate hearing from anyone that owns or knows the owner of one of these machines. Also, information about flash tube steam boilers, as used in steam automobiles. He would like to build one.

JACK VERSTEEG, 3935 Cooley Drive, Salem, Oregon 97303 has sent us the following item for our 'Useless Knowledge' section. (He said it - I didn't!)