Water pump

Courtesy of Carl I. Estler, 2659 Wellesley Drive, Saginaw, Michigan. 48603

Andy Anderson

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Ontario, N. Y, 14519

Our company, a gas utility founded in 1855 was recently given an early water pump powered by a manufactured gas engine. The label on the pump states the following: Crown Gas Pump manufactured by N'T'L'. Meter Company, New York, patents in February 6, May 22, November 27 and December 4, 1883.

We would like to ask your subscribers if they have any information an this engine and if so what gas pressure was used?

I retrieved this little four-cycle air-cooled engine from a local junk yard just after some farmer had dumped it along with the rest of his farm scrap. It measures 18' high and flywheel diameter of 10'. I did not open the. engine but judge it to be a 2' bore. It has one mechanical exhaust valve operating on an external cam. The lubrication came from a sight feeder located behind the cylinder. It has an American Bosch magneto, Splitdorf 1/2' pipe thd. plug, V up-draft carburetor and a one-quart gas tank.

After freeing up the points, making a new point spring, cleaning the carburetor and gas tank, I started the engine and it ran perfectly at 1400 R.P.M. governor speed. The governor is a ball weight type found on steam engine throttles.

There is no manufacturer identification, only a number M110827 on the crank case. From the size of the round belt pulley, I would guess it was designed to run a cream separator or a washing machine.

Please advise me if you can identify this engine and also tell me. how old this engine would be.

Here are two pictures of a gas engine for your 'What Is It?' page. I would like to know the make, horsepower and RPMs. There is no name plate and no place where the name plate could have been that I have found.

Some of the measurements of the engine are as follows: Diameter of the flywheels, 161/2 inches; flywheel face, 21/4 inches; distance between flywheels, 17 inches, center to center; bore and stroke, as far as I can tell by approximate measure, 33/4 inches by 5 inches. Some of the casting numbers are: U3 on the cylinder head; U2 on the main bearing caps; and U11 on the rocker arm. Notice the spark plug hole and the frame attachment points on the water hopper in the 'head on' view of the engine. Could someone explain the framework around the cylinder head area? The ignition is a timer and buzzer coil.

This picture was taken about 1924. This car had a continental motor and had two forward speeds. Would anyone want to name it?

The No. 2 engine photo in the November-December issue is a 'Homelite' tank heater generator engine. These were direct connected to a 28 or 30 volt generator for boosting starter batteries in Army tanks. I can't tell from the photo much about the size, but most were either 50 or 80 amp units, 4 or 6 HP. These two photos are of my own mystery engine. This engine is about 18' tall, weighs about 30 pounds and runs 1000 RPM. I have never had the head off but it is about 21/4' bore, 1 5/8' stroke, 2 cycle. It uses Ford coil for spark and has finned head for cooling. It runs either direction by throwing spark lever. Deflector is bolted to the head of the piston. The crankcase has the following imprint, 'SHUG ELECTRIC MFG. CO. DETROIT, MICH'. Now I know that 'Sandow' used Shug coils on their engines built by the Detroil Motor Car Supply Company and I am wondering if this engine could be an experimental model. It has no numbers anywhere that I can find on it. I wonder if any reader has any idea about the engine and use of this little jewel was originally built for? The frame and tank and coil box are of my own make. This little rascal runs very smooth. It apparently has some form of built in throttle governor.


There was a very good turn out for the December 4th meeting of the Pioneer Gas Engine Association, Inc. This was our annual Christmas party, when each member brings a gift for a patient at the Newark State School for the Mentally Handicapped. A short business meeting was conducted by our new President, Roland Riegle. It was decided to have an auction in conjunction with our annual Spring 'Gas-up.' The date to be set later.

After the pot-luck supper, slides were shown of the Bird City, Kansas Reunion. These slides were sent to us by a member, Harry Hall of Albuquerque, N. M. for our enjoyment. Later, round and square dancing was enjoyed to music furnished by Kenneth Roloff of Manila, N. Y.

January is the only month, when no meetings are held, as it is so close to the holidays. We all miss the friendly get togethers. February is the picture showing meeting, and we expect some fine slides and movies of various shows.

We welcome any new members, even if you will never be able to attend a meeting or reunion. You will receive our bi-monthly news letter, the PIONEER ENGINE BUGLE. It has grown from two pages, printed on one side to six pages printed on both sides. We now have 259-1967 members. Dues are $2.00 per year. We also have an EQUIPMENT DIRECTORY for $1.00. It is 33 page mimeographed directory of owners and engines. Send money to Mrs. Dorothy B. Smith, Sec'y., Forest Grove Trailer Park, Ontario, N. Y. 14519.

Our 1967 Reunion dates are July 28, 29 and 30 at Fairville, on Route 88, Newark, New York. Hope you can come and join us!