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JOE ATCHLEY, 909 Broadway Tower, P.O. Box 3142, Enid, Oklahoma 73701 writes: 'I am the owner of a small water tank cooled engine made by the DeLaval Separator Co. Type VW, No. 75934 (all the information on the tag). Would any of you Smoke Ring readers have any information on this engine? Also need information on Wico Type B1 magneto. I would be eager to hear from someone on these.'

Some information comes from EDWIN H. BREDEMEIER, Steinauer, Nebraska 68441: 'In Sep-Oct. issue of GEM, I noticed Jim Hill's item about chains, etc. In the decade of the 20s, there were two types of drive chains used on most equipment; one the slip link or hook, means clipped together and the pin link that used a pin to fasten them together. The first type mentioned came either malable material or steel. The second was malable. At that time the roller chain, such as we have today, was just beginning to show up on machines.

The sizes for the first type was by numbers. The smallest size I've ever seen was #20 and the largest 75. I imagine both larger or smaller links were made the sizes for the second was usually controlled by different applications. I've never seen them listed, only by part number. They were used for bull wheel drive or both grain and corn binders. They were used on manure spreaders and also where a lot of strength was needed and slow speed.

In the slip link or hook type, I think the #55 size was used the most. It was used as main drive on binders in thresher, feeder, carrier, grain and tailing elevators on threshers.

There used to be a lot of arguments which was the best. The malable or the steel chain, and to run the hook end ahead or back in direction of travel of the chain.

So that is my chapter on chains and when it was 10° below zero any of them could cause trouble and it was a mighty cold job fixing them.'

HOWARD J. BARRY, 280 Ballentine Avenue, Marion, Ohio 43302 has a 16 HP Huber 30-50 separator and an 8-roll corn shredder, all Huber and also two model B Huber tractors. But what he wants is to know how to locate the serial numbr on the separator. (Please answer Howard.)

C. LYLE CUMMINS, JR., P. O. Box 1544, Lake Oswego, Oregon 97034 comments: 'I enjoyed reading your article on the Otto Gas Engine on page 37 of your last issue of GEM. Thought I would pass along some additional information as I have quite a library of material on these early Ottos.

I would doubt that the engineshown was built in the 1870s. Hot tube ignition was not adopted until the late 1880s (a borrowing from Crossley - the British Deutz licensee). The electric ignition/gasoline version didn't come out till 1885 in Germany. Also, the company was not known officially as 'The Otto Gas Engine Works' until 1894.'

Architect PHILIP A. VAZZANA, 24242 S. Poplar Street, Greenville, Mississippi 38701 would like some help in identifying this engine. It has a Webster oscillator. Underneath the oscillator plate is inscribed the word 'Indiana.'

REV. TIMON W. DAVISON, 430 S.W. Westlawn Drive, Ankeny, Iowa 50021 tells you: 'Dear Friends:

I wish to thank those of you who responded to my Smoke Rings and helped me with my 2? HP United engine. I bought it last November at Mr. Eshelman's sale at Elliott, Iowa. Then it had a hole in the cylinder wall the size of your fist and was a rusted sandy mess! This is my first engine and now it starts and runs fine. (See enclosed picture.)

I have a new request. I'd like to know more about the Massey Harris 201, 202, 203 tractors. I understand they were made during WW2 and later became the model '55,' but I'm yet to see one or talk to anyone who had (has) one.'

From JAMES P. RILEY, R. D. 2, Box 269, Rising Sun, Maryland 31911 comes a formula that many of the readers will be interested in studying:

'The formula for determining horse power for internal combustion gthis engine.It has a  I

past issues of GEM, (Smoke Rings) but as we have many new collectors and readers, 1 feel it is due to be put in again, so here it is:

d2xlxrxn/13000 = HP for 4 cycle

d2xlxrxn/10000 = HP for 2 cycle

Where d = diameter of cylinders in inches.

l - length of stroke in inches.

r - revolution per minute.

n = number of cylinders.

Example: Say a one cylinder four cycle engine with a 3 inch cylinder, a six inch stroke running 500 rpm.

3x3x6x500 xl = 2.07 say 2 HP.

If it was same size engine but a 2 cycle it would be:

3x3xcx500xl = 2.7 say 2? HP.

This is an old formula and does not refer to brake H.P. which was not a measure of power used in the days when the old one lungers were in their hay day.

Hope this is a help to those buddies out there in engine land.'

Well, this is the last magazine for this year and I'd like to wish you a wonderful Thanksgiving and Christmas. May your life be as rich as mine - which leads me to this poem RICHES.

I'm richer than a millionaire.
Even when my wealth is spare;
I have the means that I despire,
Some folks must always more acquire;
I'm rich in other ways than money,
These things are sweeter than bees' honey;
Conversation and love of friends,
A child who with me sometimes spends.
Moments to get acquainted, delaying
The time he could be with others playing;
The flowers, the birds and God's creatures
Are my riches and important features;
A heart full of love and peace count most,
A mind packed full of memories beautiful ghost;
Being rich in faith and trusting no whim
But dependent on the riches of Him.

Mary E. Toddes

Bye for now - remember God loves you AND I do too!!