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JOHN BECK, Star Route 2, Bismarch, North Dakota 58501 writes: 'I hope one of your readers has an Adams, one cylinder, 2 cycle, railroad engine, as I have the same and need much information. Some of the parts are missing, but I have the carb and enough else there to get it running some day. If someone could lend me a photo of a complete engine with the original 3-wheeled running gear would be a big help.'

A young enthusiast writes: 'I am 15 years old and own my own magneto repair business. I was wondering if anybody out there in GEMland has any information on magneto coil winding and magnet recharging? I run stuck whenever somebody needs this done, and there isn't anyone out here in Lynden that knows how.

Any correspondence I get will be answered. While I'm on the subject, I also have just finished restoring my 1938 John Deere AR that I received two years ago.' (This letter comes from JOHN D. MAAS, JR., 8311 Guide Meridian, Lynden, Washington 98264. Sure hope you veterans in this business can give John a helping hand.)

H. L. RITTER, Route 5, Box 127, Fulton, New York 13069 says: 'Hi Smoke Ringers! I have asked questions before and got many good answers, so I have another - I have a Fuller Johnson pump engine. It had a broken crankshaft. I got another one. The manual says the connecting rod gets lubricated from a grease cup on end of crankshaft.

There is no hole for a cup nor is there a hole in crank throw for grease to come out. How do I lubricate the connecting rod?' (There's another letter for you to write, Fellas! Thanks for being so helpful.)

LEON DEFFERDING, Route 2, Black Creek, Wisconsin 54106 tells you: 'I am sending you a photo of my side shaft gas engine which I bought a few years ago. It is an air-cooled Marvel 5 HP, Serial #114, manufactured by the Marvel Motor Works, Kewaunee, Wisconsin. I had it to three shows in Wisconsin this summer and it ran very well all day. It runs on a Model T spark coil with a gas fuel pump and has 3 drip oilers and 3 grease cups which are all brass.

I don't know much about this engine and found out at the shows that there is only 3 known in the state of Wisconsin and not much is known about them either, or how many were made and their ages. I would like to hear from anyone else who has one or any type of information about the company.' (Lots of folks hunting answers - will keep you writers busy, won't it??)

DONALD L. SIEFKER', R. R. 13, Box 302, Muncie, Indiana 47302 writes: 'I need some helpful information on two engines I own and have nearly finished restoring. Perhaps a note in Smoke Rings would bring me some assistance.

I need to know the colors of paint and any striping (if any) for a Cray Brothers gasoline engine. They were made in Cleveland, Ohio, last patent date is 1907. Mine is 4? HP open crank, hit and miss, igniter fired.

The other engine is a Detroit made by Detroit Engine Works in Detroit, Michigan. It is about 1? HP with vertical piston, 2 cycle, tank-cooled. I need to know paint colors and any striping. Also any other information on this engine, especially starting, igniting and speed control and adjustment. Last patent date is 1909. Thanks for any help!' (And then he added Have a good FALL (Autumn that is!) - so glad he clarified that statement and he also said GEM is a jewel - Thanks Don.)

A note of appreciation from PETE HUISMAN, Box 187, Wilmont, Minnesota 56185: 'Just want to say Thanks for a great magazine. I really enjoy it and enjoy the great show reports. I would appreciate any details which your readers would be able to give me on a scale model of a Rumely Oil Pull 15-30 'F' or 30-60 'E'. I'd like to make one.'

A note from DON RETTBURG, R. D. 1, Boodbury, Pennsylvania 16695: 'GEM is a great magazine and is well read at our house by my two sons and myself. We just added a McCormick Deering W-12 Serial #WS2362 to our collection. This tractor was partly disassembled but I think we have all the parts. I would like to know if any of you readers could help, especially with a picture of a W-12, especially the seat area. Would also like to know the year the tractor was built and the original colors.'

Here's a letter from ROBIN W. GAY, 197 Russell Street, Cleveland, Qld. 4163, Australia: 'I am writing in the hope of finding out some information on an engine which I have acquired recently. I have heard of only one other of this type in Australia, but am yet to contact the owner of it.

The details of the engine are as follows: Standard Gas Engine made by the Standard Gas Engine Co. of San Francisco. It is a vertical open crank of 7 HP 360 RPM. It is, in fact, a GAS engine and not gasoline, however, it has been converted to run on gasoline or as we call it, petrol.

Just a point of interest, it becomes confusing for many people when talking of engines as 'Gas Engines;' many people outside the USA and Canada, that is. When Americans or Canadians refer to a 'Gas Engine,' they generally mean a 'Gasoline Engine.' 1 don't know what you call a true 'Gas' engine (that is an engine which draws on a gaseous fuel and not a liquid fuel.) In Australia, for instance, we refer to engines as being 'Petrol Engines' (liquid petroleum fuel) and 'Gas Engines' (gaseous fuel). Now I had better get off this subject, before I get confused (even more).

Enclosed photographs of the Standard Gas Engine and I would like to know anything at all the readers may be able to tell me about it-particularly the date of manufacture of these engines. It would appear they would be well before 1910. What type of ignition system did they have? This one has been greatly altered to make it high tension spark plug ignition. What type of gas were they made to run on? Also are there any 'Standard' engines in the land of collectors in U.S.A. or are they in fact, a rarity over there?

I will be pleased to hear from anybody about this engine and will surely answer any letters.'

FLOYD RADKE, 1200 Reynolds, North Las Vegas, Nevada 89030 asks: 'Do you have any address of the nearest Engine Club to Las Vegas, Nevada that I could get in contact with as my FA-60052 1936, F-20 is now restored to a very respectable condition.' (We have no clubs listed for Nevada, but maybe you fellows could realize better than I which would be the closest organization-do let Floyd know.)

LESLIE GOFF, 9161 Queen Street, Fort Langley, British Columbia, Box 403, Canada JOX 1J0 has this to relate: 'I've lately picked up a 3 HP side shaft engine of the following data on the nameplate-Peerless Motor Co. Makers, Lansing, Michigan U.S.A. Shop #2852, 3 HP. This engine is complete and turns over, but valves rusted solid, but that offers me no difficulty, because if I can't free them, I'll cut the stems off and drill out and make new ones. What I'd like to know is the year of manufacture and what color it was painted. I'm a subscriber of Gas Engine Magazine and enjoy it immensely.'

A letter from the country above us comes from one of our interested newcomers as LARRY HANNAH, 903-14th Street, New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada V3M 4P8 writes: 'I have been interested in old engines ever since I have been exposed to the remains of them as a child. I'm only 29 now, so I didn't grow up with them in a useful sense, but they were always a curiosity to me.

We have just gotten our own house, so I can now collect a few engines, etc. I am a fan of the enclosed crankcase engines such as the McCormick Deering and F. M. CZ engine of which I have a 1? and 6/7 HP. The F.M. Style C is definitely the ultimate Z engine having roller bearings and being self lubricating. Mine is vapor cooled and mounted on a cast iron base for driving a generator. I intend to drive a 110 V alternater with it. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who shares my interest in enclosed engines, particularly the F.M. CZ, self oiling models.

I also have a Massey Harris, Type 2, Shop #1K4312, 1.5 HP 650 RPM made in Canada. I wonder if this engine is very common as I have not seen ads or articles concerning this engine. Perhaps someone could tell me more about it.

I recently subscribed to GEM and received two issues and am eagerly awaiting the next one.'

Then from PAUL HARTER, 2737 E. 12th Street, Joplin, Missouri 64801 comes this bit: 'Am enclosing a picture of an engine I have. I've asked some friends who deal in engines, but they don't know the make, ft has the letter V before the number on all parts. It uses EK Wico magneto. Name plate is missing and lettering on engine is so blurred it cannot be read. Would really appreciate any information.'

A letter from BERNARD L. SCOTT, 117 Highview Drive, Cocoa, Florida 32922 and he says: 'I have been enjoying GEM and collecting engines for several years. I have two engines in my collection that I need information about. They are a Type F Briggs and Stratton ? HP with two flywheels and a battery ignition. The serial number is F251. This is the earliest B & S that I have seen and I have not seen another like it. I would like to correspond with someone who knows about it. I need to know the date of manufacture and the color scheme.

The other engine is a New Way upright Model C, Type E, 4? HP, serial number 682. I need the date of manufacture, color and striping scheme. This engine was highly decorated when it was new. One end of the crankshaft is slightly bent causing the flywheel to wobble slightly when it is running and I need some ideas on how to straighten it. Some of the other engines I have include a 3 HP throttle governed Sattley, 1920; a 2? HP Gray Type G hit and miss and a 2 HP Type T Fairbanks Morse upright, 1913. I am anxious to hear from other engine collectors in regard to any of the above engines or information on them.' (Hope you find a pen pal, Bernie.)