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ALLEN HABERMAN, 14321 Josephine Road, Largo, Florida 33540 is asking for help: 'I am a gas engine buff with my collection, but I am going to do serious research into this. I want to know if any readers can help me, by allowing me to benefit from their experience. If an intake and exhaust manifold is made in one casting, using the exhaust gases to heat this combination manifold, what problems will I run into switching to kerosene, after starting on gasoline? My idea is to run the twin passages together, with a thin separation, for at least 12 inches, hoping this heat will vaporize the kerosene enough for proper combustion. Please write me if you have any information.'

A letter came recently from ALVA M. McCOY, 5128 N. Cannon, Spokane, Washington 99208 - 'I have this gas engine, a Paradox from the Ohio Electric Company. I have tried propane in every way I can think of and would greatly appreciate any help from anyone who might have any idea as to how to get it to run.' (Any help, Readers?)

DICK GIBBENS, Route 2, Box 175, Schriever, Louisiana 70395 explains: 'I've just acquired a Rock Island 1? HP hit and miss, S.N. A59210 open crank engine. It has a Webster tri-polar magneto with make and break ignition. I would greatly appreciate hearing from someone with information on this engine as it is very interesting and runs well.

I also have an F-M 'N' 12 HP, an F-M 'E' marine and several Z's and Lockwoods. I treasure my engines and G.E.M.'

Here is a letter from KEN DAWSON, Anoka Engine Club Annex, 1311 19th Street, South, Moorhead, Minnesota 56560 who has some information and also wants some letters from you: 'I have been collecting engines for going on two years. One of the engines I have is a Taylor vacuum engine made in Elgin, Illinois April 9, 1929. I am trying to get a history of this company together with a record of how many of these engines are still around. If you have a Taylor, could you drop me a line sending the following information: Serial number {stamped on right side of block), HP rated 1, 1?,2; Style A, B, C; number of spokes 5-6 or tear drop style; number of oilers, 1 or 2; date of manufacture (on bottom right side of block), rotary mag or Wico EK.

Also any light sketches of decals these engines had. If you have what you think to be a Taylor, but it has no serial number on the block, please send a description. Taylor sold engines to two other companies I know of, Universal Milk Machine Co., Albert Lea, Minnesota (printed International Red) AND Empire Cream Separator Co. of Connecticut (painted a lighter John Deere green). Any information on your engines would be greatly appreciated.' (I need say no more - if you have this type of engine, please send him the data.)

JIM HICKEY, 1336 Peach Avenue, El Cajon, California 92021 writes: 'Please put this correction in your column - a few months ago you published a letter from me which gave an incorrect address. It was in Volume 12, No. 3, page 22. This concerns a company called Pro-Tech which makes an excellent fuel tank sealant. This product will seal seams and pin hole leaks and will anchor down rust and scale. The correct address is: Pro-Tech Company, 924 Williamson Avenue, Fullerton, California 92632, Phone 714-525-4797. I called and talked to them and they will ship a quart can for $9.85 plus postage, the postage part would be C.O.D.

Also on page 7 of the Sept.-Oct. issue of G.E.M. (1977), Mr. John Jilka mentions using a zinc coating to build up worn-out pistons (?) I'd like to know more about this. Perhaps some of your readers could tell us about this idea.

I would also like to correspond with anyone who knows anything of an engine called CH & E. I found one out here, but none of the collectors in this area have ever heard of it.'

TODD EYSTER, R. D. 1, Stewartstown, Pennsylvania 17363 writes us: 'Being a reader of your magazine for several years, I don't believe I've seen an engine like mine mentioned before. It is a garden tractor named the Red E tractor, motor #9827, patents #1,578,343 and #1,701,725. It was made by The Pioneering Manufacturing Co. of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Any readers that have information on this, please

GEORGE S. CLARK, 254 Pond Point Avenue, Milford, Connecticut 06460 is seeking any information available on Charter gasoline engines as he is going to compile a list of all known Charter engines in existence, so write him if you have one, or know of one. (See ad in back under Wanted.)

WALTER E. SCHRAGE, 1219 Lawn Avenue, New Haven, Indiana 46774 is asking for help: 'I need your help on five antique inboard and outboards. Where manufactured? By whom? When manufactured? 1) 3 HP Harvard outboard, about 1908. 2) 3 HP Kenwood, about 1908 inboard. 3) 3? HP Champion A/C, about 193? 4) 6 HP Motor Go Jr. has Bosch magneto on it. Tillotson carburetor, outboard 193? 5) 5 HP Motor Go inboard. All five sold by Sears Roebuck, Chicago.' (Get your pencils ready, Men, and help Wait with his questions.)

DAVE BABCOCK, R.F.D. 3, Box 673, Cass City, Michigan 48726 would like to correspond with someone who has a 12 HP Associated engine on factory trucks. He especially needs to know the exact size of the fuel tank and battery box.

More information needed - this time from R. J. BUSH, 11087 Dennison Road, Forestville, New York 14062: 'Pictured is an engine that we have and about which we cannot find any information. It is a 2 cycle, constant speed, has no governor. The crankshaft has a pulley on it, no starting mechanism on it. The gas tank holds approximately 1 pint of fuel. There is a bracket on the front that would seem to have been mounted stationary and the motor or engine would be free to move to keep the belt tight. Any help you could give me regarding the manufacturer and the use to which this engine was put, would be greatly appreciated.' (Seems an awful lot of folks are awaiting letters this time.)

CHRIS C. DIEHM, 1238 West 223 Street, Torrance, California 90502 has a lot to tell us. 'I answered the man's questions as to the cost, type and age of the plow pictured on the back cover of Nov.-Dec. 1976 issue of Gas Engine Magazine.

It is a Double Strength Beam Brush Plow made somewhere between 1900 and 1905. The 1902 Sears Replica Mail Order Catalog has these listed and while not of the same make, they are the same type of plow. They were not only used for plowing under brush, but for use in soil where there are many large rocks or small boulders hidden or concealed a few inches below the surface of the soil.

The 1902 Sears Catalog lists them at $8.75 plus shipping or freight charges. A local hardware store or implement dealer in 1902 probably would list it at $11.00 and claim that their plow is made of better material than Sears plows.

Most brush and other special type of walking plows made before 1900 had wood beams. Most riding plows, whether a sulky or a gand, had steel beams, since about 1880. Only the 'wealthy' farmer could afford riding plows before 1900.

I enjoy seeing the color cover pictures on both the Gas Engine Magazine and Iron-Men Album Magazine. I have already ordered and have received the color picture of the threshing scene from the Case Public Relations Office.

I also enjoy and appreciate the spiritual content or Good Old Time Religion statements in your editorials. Best regards to you and your family.' (Thanks Chris and I take that to mean not only my personal family, but also the Magazine Family of workers.)

DOUGLAS KELLEY, 3601 Hollister #278, Houston, Texas 77080 is seeking companionship in his hobby: 'I enjoy your magazine very much and look forward to receiving it. I have seemed to encounter a problem in moving to Houston, Texas. While in northern Indiana, I was very active in Branch #5ofE.D.G.E.&A.T.A.Now, I seem to have trouble locating any clubs or shows in the South. I would appreciate any help in this matter.

I have a John Deere Model D, 1937 that I hope to have here next summer and am eagerly searching for a place to show it. Also, I would like to attend some shows if possible. I know there must be someone down here that shares the same interest I do in the exciting and amazine world of gas engines. Thanks anybody for help! (The only two organizations we have listed in Texas are: Texas Early Day Tractor & Gas Engine Association at Duncan Seawright Farm, Meridian, Texas 76665. Contact Dale Munday, 229 S.E. Gordens, Burleson, Texas 76028 AND the Gregg County Historical Society Museum which was to have been erected recently. Contact John W. Hedge, 304 N. Glover Drive, Longview, Texas 75601. Anybody out there interested in this same hobby - please get in touch with Doug - he's lonely for gas engine chums.)

Enclosed find a cartoon sent to us by the courtesy of John W. Tichenor, R.R. 4, Shelbyville, Illinois 62565.

JAY JOHNSON, Box 17225, Dulles International Airport, Washington, D.C. 22041 writes: 'I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your magazine and really look forward to it every two months. I would also like to thank three people who have helped me out a lot when I could not get something running. They are Mr. Walter Barnhart, Mr. Turman of Roanoke, Virginia and Mr. Willy Enfild of Winterstown, Pa. Thanks a whole lot especially to Mrs. Barnhart too for cooking breakfast at all the shows I attend.

I also need information on the New Way gas engines. I have a 4 HP upright engine and need a diagram of the piece that goes under the exhaust valve to make it hit and miss - can't seem to find any information on same. Thank you so much!'

One of our newer members sounds very enthused as he writes: 'I just received my second issue of your wonderful magazine and sent out 4 orders from the For Sale section. I need some advice about my John Deere l? HP, Type E, Serial #237590. This engine had no mag when I acquired it and I can't see any place one would be mounted. It appeared to have a point arrangement on the exhaust valve push rod, so I hooked up a Model T coil to it and it started and ran fine. My real problem is that I can find no crankcase breather on the engine. Could someone tell me if this engine has one and where it might be located?

For Mr. Jack Newhouse who inquired about a Model T spark coil hook-up, I am running my John Deere, my International 1?HP Model M, a Cushman Cub 2 HP and aMonitorr 1? HP vertical off of Model T coils. I use a limit switch for points on the International and Cushman.

I am just getting into this engine collection craze, although I have seen many of them in operation when I was a youngster. My other engines include a Stover 1?? HP OTI, a Homelite 28 volt generator and 6 various types of May tags including singles, a twin, a Model 88 and one vertical. My hands and fingernails haven't been free of grease for four months.

I would be glad to correspond with anyone that needs help in setting up ignition systems when a mag is missing. Thanks for a great magazine!' (Letter was from FRANCIS (BOB) BRIGGS, 7601 22nd Avenue, Kenosha, Wisconsin 53140.)

A note from Fiddlin' Stan (STANTON S. HOWE, 4433 Red Fox Drive, Helena, Montana 59601): 'I got my first engine a week ago, August 20th and had it cleaned up and running and took it to the Threshing Bee at Belgrade, Montana, the 27th and 28th where it ran all day for both days and never missed a lick. It is a John Deere E1? HP- My step-dad threw it out in the 30s. We retrieved it from the junk pile. It has had an (ingenious farmer) conversion on the ignition system and now runs on a Ford coil and battery. He also gave me an old Delco 16 V. light plant, all complete; that's a project for winter!'