Phil Gores

Courtesy of Walter T. Smith, R.D. 3, Newport, Pennsylvania 17074.

Walter T. Smith, R.D.

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Hi! We've been having such beautiful crisp Autumn days lately - always makes me feel happy that I live in an area that has the four seasons. I thoroughly enjoy each one of the quarters of the quarters of the year - just don't know if I would want to adapt to one type of season all year.

I love the colors of the Autumn landscape and enjoy the decorations of harvested grains, pumpkins, gourds, etc. I think the children enjoy these things too, but their ideas also drift to costumes for the upcoming Hallowe'en parties, Jack-O-Lanterns, Trick or Treat night and such items. Which reminds me, our Tommy was nine in September and still enjoys this type of thing and I must get busy and get his disguise together for school and town affairs. I'm sure a lot of your folks are doing the same things - I know we have lots more in common than just our magazines.

N.J. HICKOCK, Amboy, Minnesota 56010 sends us this thought - 'All the time I keep reading about every one cleaning and painting these old engines - It's every one for 'each his own'. It's true, they maybe look nice, but most of the time the color isn't right or there is too much trim and etc.

We clean our engines pretty good, but we like to see'em in their working clothes and just a wee, wee bit of old grease on 'em yet.

We just recently bought a little old 1-1/2 HP Galloway air-cooled with a fan from a Mr. Anderson at Judson, Minnesota, This nice gentleman is 85 years young and he bought this little engine from Waterloo, Iowa when he was 22 years old and he has had it all these years. We bought it, gave it gas and spark from the original coil and away she went. It's a real jewel and a pleasure to hear run. Pease, don't write and ask a price, cause it's not for sale - No Way!

We found and bought a nice 6 HP upright Monitor from a gentleman, Mr. Gracy at Olatha, Kansas. We think this engine is sort of a winner, too.

We have a few other engines and love to have company. Come and see us just off 169 at Amboy, Minnesota. (Now, there's a sincere invitation to stop and get acquainted!)

Mr. Hickock's son, Tom, is as interested in these engines as his father which makes for double the pleasure when you can share your hobby with a loved one.

JIM SYMONDS, Chalet Road, Healesville, Victoria, Australia is interested in having some of our readers correspond with him, especially if they have Rumelys. He has a Rumely Oil Pull Model L or 15-25 HP twin cylinder oil-cooled and would appreciate any information available. He has fully restored it to new condition with canopy and gold leaf transfers and signe writing. As far as he knows there are only three Rumelys in Australia - it is probable there are more, but that is all he has been able to locate. He says his Rumely is valued at $4000. and runs like new, but he must learn a lot about it as to adjustments. (Get the pens poised, Pals, and correspond with Jim.)

MAX HORST, R.D. 1, West Salem, Ohio 44287 needs some data as his letter conveys: 'I recently purchased an old gas engine in a very rough condition. It had no name-plate of manufacturer or horsepower. It possibly could be a 3-1/2 or 4 HP. In due time I was told it was a Worthington. (I have since then cleaned and painted it and it works fine.) The previous owner had bought it used over fifty years ago. I need all the information I can get on the Worthington company and engine parts. I also have an Alpha and two Fairbanks-Morse engines in my collection.'

WALLACE TINSLEY, Route 10, Box 176, Anderson, South Carolina 29621 tells us: 'I am restoring a Witte headless 12 HP Model No. 41673 engine and would like to know more about it. This engine is almost complete. I also have a 5 HP Economy, complete and a 3 HP International, not complete.'

WILLIAM FLOWERS, Box 332, Route 2, Adena, Ohio 43901 typed us this short plea: 'We just purchased a gas engine called (The F. & W.). It was built by The Flint and Walling Mfg. Co., Kendallville, Indiana, U.S.A. Can any of our Gas Engine Friends give us any history of this make of engine? I judge it is about 1-1/2 or 2 HP with a very short stroke and large bore. It has battery ignition. Hope to hear from someone who has one of these engines.'

Ms JUDITH E. BIEDKA, 310 S. Meridan Street, Lebanon, Indiana 46052 would like any information about Leroi engines and also on Dixie magnetos, the firing order. (There fellows, you can write to the opposite gender if your wife doesn't mind - but check with her, please. I know engines are referred to as 'she' or 'her' but when it comes to engine owners your corresponding with - that classification may be a different matter).

I had a letter from TOM CAMPBELL, Route 1, Box 115, Zion, Illinois 60099 and it goes like this: 'In your July-August column you had an inquiry from Neil Erickson about his 12 HP Witte thas set up. I'm sending my letter to you instead of him directly, because if you print it more people can use the information.

My Uncle has a very old 6 HP Challenge engine that belonged to his father. For approximately 35 to 40 years it lay down in the pasture in the weather.

Two years ago this fall, we built a stone boat to put it on and pulled it up to the shed. We were very lucky. Everything came off easy, except one valve stem that had to be drilled out and replaced, and the piston. Even four people jumping up and down and pulling and shoving on the 32' flywheels wouldn't move it. Lucky, Uncle Charles set it to BDC one day back when it was still loose, so we tipped it up on end and filled the cylinder with kerosene. It soaked that way until July 2nd this year, then we gave it a valve job and put a fitting in the spark plug hole with a grease fitting in it. Then we emptied about 18 guns full of grease into the cylinder and when it was finally full, it only took about three good licks on the grease gun and she said 'Ping' and 'Pop' about two or three times and started to back out. It was so near BDC, we had to take the flywheels and the crank out in order to get the rod off of the crank, so the pistons could come all the way out the bottom.

This system should work on any type of engine if the valves and ring are not leaking and if there is a tapped hole somewhere into the combustion chamber. It could be for spark plug or ignition or primer cup or if it's possible to drill and tap a hole without getting into the water jacket, it could be plugged later.

We also thought about soaking it in Ruse-olium thinner. It is fish oil base and is supposed to go through rust to bare metal. We thought that might break the bond.

On July 14, 1973, late in the evening, the old Challenge fired up and barked again for the first time in almost forty years.'

Thanks Tom for the information -I'm sure many readers are happy to know this data.

WILLIAM OWEN, 2324 Beatrice Street, Springfield, Ohio 45503 wrote to tell us how much he enjoys our magazine and also he thinks collecting gas engines is so much fun because gas engine people are so friendly and don't get jealous of one another. They try to help one another.

Bill also says he has two old Briggs & Stratton engines, one made in 1936 and one made in 1950. He would like to get to know other collectors in the Springfield Ohio area.

Another fan writes us in the person of FRANKIE R. HUDSON, 1004 9th Street, Radford, Virginia 24141 - 'I have been receiving your outstanding magazine (Gas Engine Magazine) for about two years now and I really enjoy it. I find each copy extremely helpful and am constantly reading the magazines over and over.

I have eight engines and really enjoy running the five that I have in running order. I recently obtained a 12 HP Hercules EK that is equipped with a Webster low tension magneto.

I am the only one anywhere around this area interested in old engines and 'stuff and therefore I have trouble obtaining much help. I would really appreciate anyone that could give me any information on my Hercules engine and Webster magnetos as I want to restore it soon and run it.

I also have an 8 HP Model U. Thermoil diesel of which is in good running condition. I can't find any history on the manufacturer of this engine and would greatly welcome any data on this engine's history.

Please continue your excellent publishing of a most enjoyable magazine.'

(Thanks Frankie, that's a boon to our ego and makes us want to do better all the time.)

From CURTIS SCHLUETER, JR., 875 - 38th Avenue, Winona, Minnesota 55987 comes this interesting missal - 'As my wife and children and I drove along on our vacation in July, going from Spring Green, Wisconsin toward Baraboo, we joked as we sae the countryside whiz by - 'If anyone see a gas engine in a farmyard, holler gas engine!'

Phil Gores, Royal Oak Michigan is retired and winters in Florida. He built the model gasoline engine over thirty years ago. It has a 1' bore and 1' stroke. About two years ago, he built the tractor he calls 'Oil Power'. Just about everything is either from a junk pile or he made it.

He also built the log wagon and the bundle wagon about two years ago. You must see these models in person to appreciate them.

In the background is a model threshing machine. It is hand-fed and has a drag straw carrier. I do not know whose it is. These were displayed at Keith Oderkirk's Show, Haines City, Florida in March of 1973.

My wife was really looking, not expecting to see anything. Then we drove by a neat farm yard where a small gas engine was mounted near the road. We turned around, drove back and parked the car and got out to examine it. Parts were missing off the engine, but it was mounted and painted with care, that showed someone appreciated gas engines.

A few minutes later we met the farmer that lived there, leaving the yard and we stopped him to inquire about the mounted engine. He graciously took the time to show us his personal collection of restored and unrestored gas engines under three sheds. We wished there had been more time to look closely at everything and ask more questions. I bought a small gas engine from him and moved suitcases out of the trunk and into the car to make room for it. We noted his name on cards in one shed was Verne Kindschi and he introduced himself as well.

When we arrived home, my first issue of Gas Engine Magazine was waiting. We were surprised to learn from an article in the magazine that Mr. Kindschi is somewhat of an authority on gas engines, especially Fuller & Johnson. What a coincidence that we should just happen to stop at his place!

I have begun collecting recently and have restored a Sears Economy hit and miss engine and an I. H. engine, with my wife's help sanding off old paint. I'm almost finished building a hit and miss model engine made from Cole's Power Model castings.'

(That was a nice experience, Curtis, and yes, Vernie is an authority on engines - he can write interesting articles and has contributed to our magazine - he's one of the Gas Engine Magazine family).

An odd opposed piston engine shown at Bradenton, Florida in February 1971.

Fairbanks-Morse 35 HP engine shown at Bradenton, Florida in February 1971.

A letter of gratitude from NEIL ERICKSON, 2113 E. Wheeler Road, Midland, Michigan 48640 as he tells us: 'I want to thank the fellow enthusiasts and readers of G.E.M. for the advice I received regarding the stuck piston in my 10 HP Witte engine and the means of ignition.

I have been so busy getting things in order for our Farmers and Threshers Reunion that I haven't had a chance to try the suggestions yet, but am looking forward to the challenge. I'll try to send at least a card to each of the 14 folks from whom I received advice, after I get time to try their suggestions. (Make that 15 Neil, one answered through this column this issue. - Isn't that great to have such response?)

In the meantime - Thanks to all and I'll send G.E.M. a summary of my success or failure at a later date.

Before I close, I'd like to tell all of you that Earlene Ritzman has been sick for several weeks now. She has arthritis of the spine and has been quite miserable, but was getting no relief and the doctor put her in the hospital for tests and it ended up she had a disc operation. She is coming along as well as can be expected - but I thought some of your folks might want to drop her a card or a letter -I'm sure she would appreciate it. I would send any mail to her home at 808 Wertzville Road, Enola, Pennsylvania 17025 and she will be sure to get it, even though she is still in the hospital.

It doesn't seem possible but this is the Christmas issue - also will end eight years for Gas Engine Magazine - our 'Baby' as we used to call it is 'growing up'.

May you share the warmth of the Christmas Spirit throughout the coming weeks and may it continue all through the next year. God Bless Each Of You!