Smoke Rings

Smoke Rings

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Here we are-rolling right along into the 79 shows, roundups, jamborees or whatever you choose to call them-they're fun and great vacations for many of you folks-to others they are new at all this and getting a taste of gas engine fever- which will probably put a boost in the rank of subscribers which gives the G.E.M. family more inspiration to keep on growing. Not only will our new members get enjoyment and help from our publication, but no doubt you'll find some beautiful friendships which we hope will continue over the years-and now on to the letters:

And here is one of our subscribers with a note for help: 'I have been enjoying the G.E.M. and I.M.A. magazines for a year and a half. So I am new at collecting and restoring and need help. Recently, I bought a 2 cylinder Leroy engine. It is frozen, cranks backwards, doesn't give horsepower rating-so I really need starting information. Your magazines are great and keep up the good work. This comes from DAVID BRUMBAUGH, Route 1, Box 192, Camden, Indiana 46917. (Hope your G.E.M. brothers write you real soon.)

JOSEPH MARION, E. Main Road, Little Compton, Rhode Island 02837 has recently acquired a 10 HP vertical Stoddard gas engine, manufactured in Rutland, Vermont and an 8 HP horizontal sideshaft Miami, manufactured by Middleton Machine Company, Middleton, Ohio. Any information anyone has on either of these engines, will be greatly appreciated.

EDWARD T. SMOLINSKI, 6901 Coolridge Drive, Camp Springs, Maryland 20031 is awaiting your help: 'I recently acquired a 1? HP 500 R.P.M. McCormick Deering gas engine, in perfect condition, manufactured by International Harvester Company, No. A-W80779. Is there any way to determine the exact year of manufacture? I thank you for any help and information you can give me.

Information wanted from PAUL W. PROFFITT, Route 5, Glasgow, Kentucky 42141 as he tells us: 'I have a Rock Island engine, serial #A30539, 1 HP. I would like to know the year it was built and the original color.' (Do hope you proffitt from this letter to our readers who might be able to answer you.)

GEORGE POPP, 1814 So. 3rd, Niles, Michigan 49120 says: 'I need help! I have two Cushman upright engines with overhead valve, push rod and impulse magneto. I'm looking for instruction and what colors were these engines-and year they were made. They are 4 HP.' (You'll probably be hearing from some of our faithful writers, George.)

RANDY DEWEESE, Route 1, Box 293, Clinton, Kentucky 42031 has quite a bit to say: 'I just received my first copy of G.E.M. and was so inspired by it, I had to write this letter. All the stories are great but Smoke Rings has to be the best!

I am only 15 years old, but have been collecting old wrenches, spark plugs, used tractor parts etc. for as long as I can remember. I don't know why, but they just always fascinated me.

I need some information on an engine that belonged to my grandfather. The engine plate reads- Detroit Engine Works-Builders of Stationary Engines-Detroit, Michigan U.S.A. Serial #1677. This engine is almost 100% complete, except for the spark plug wire and the battery, I think. The engine is a headless two stroke, water-cooled with a flywheel on each side. The water tank sits behind the vertical engine, on top of the gas tank which sits on top of what I think is a battery box. (Randy has enclosed some pictures, but sorry they were all too dark to reproduce.)

My problem is I don't understand the electrical system, the way it fires, it has what I am sure is a throttle that is connected to the flywheels. I also need to know what type and mixture of fuel to use. The color was black, I think, but I need the detail work to complete restoration. Is this engine rare? Does anyone out there have one? I would like to know.

I also have another problem with another engine I acquired from a relative. The engine plate reads I.H.C. Vertical Engine Manufactured by International Harvester Co., Chicago U.S.A. Patents Pending-HP 3 - Speed 360 - No. L13817 E.

On this engine the piston is stuck and being I am not an experienced guy, I would like to know some of the better ways to remove the piston, for I have tried everything I know.

I also need some close up pictures of the head and valve drivers.

What is the best way to restore an igniter?

I also have a McCormick Deering 22-36 on rubber, two early F-20 Farmalls, one on steel, one on rubber and a 1938 F-20 Farmall on factory rubber, a couple of Maytags, lots of odds and ends and an unrestored 1929 'AA' 1 ton Ford truck.

I never realized I had so many fellow engine lovers. It's like living in a new world, knowing there are so many of us out there.' (Get your pencils sharpened-Randy needs a lot of help.)

URGENT says GEORGE W. ADDISON, Route 2, Box 232A, Cambridge City, Indiana 47327: 'I've an urgent problem! I had a copy of a Maytag Service Manual reprint which I purchased through someone advertising it in G.E.M. It was being used in a Junior High shop class. During an absence of the teacher, the substitute let it get away. Now can you tell me where I might send to get another one, or forward my request to the proper place? Thanks so much for any considerations.' (I don't know who he means, but perhaps the party he bought it from will see this and write George.)

A letter from STARBOLT ENGINE SUPPLIES, 6701 Dorsey Road, Laytonsville, Maryland 20760: 'Note the heading on this letter. It represents an attempt to give our friends and collectors a dependable source of much needed, we hope, parts and supplies for engine restorations. We have been on the fringes of this type of enterprise for several years, selling used parts, decals, fittings, etc., at engine shows in our part of the country and Portland, Indiana and Greenville, Illinois.

We started out in a small way with rough iron castings last year. This met with great success and we had so many requests for other castings and for items like springs that we decided to expand our inventory and go into mail order.

In expanding we have invested much time and effort as well as money to create an initial inventory of most-requested items. Now we are ready to go, we have our stock and we have our machine shop set up so that we can supply finished parts. We hope these efforts meet the needs that so many have mentioned to us.

The name, Starbolt is the contraction of the last names of the two Bills who are involved - Starkey and Debolt.'

Another letter requiring an answer comes from JAMES F. CREWS, Star Route Box 4, Arbovale, WV 24915: (I think the WV is West Virginia!) 'I wonder whether anyone can help me with information on a Fairbanks Morse 1? HP Serial #641816, Model Z. I think this engine was part of a generator system. When I got the engine, it was mounted on one end of a long cast iron base. The opposite end of the base had slots for mounting what I think was the generator. The engine is vapor-cooled (small radiator assembly over one flywheel). Also, this one of the two flywheels is extra wide and heavy, with a fan mounted on it. It may be that this engine is described on page 38 of the Jan./Feb. 1972 issue of GEM. Maybe someone can clear this up and tell me what I have.

Kind-of-a different letter, but with human interest, comes from AL HOBERMAN, 14321 Josephine Road, Largo, Florida 33540: 'I am a member of the Florida Flywheelers, which is an active club down here in the South. The club is promoting a Club Caravan to the Midwest this summer, which could include Portland, Indiana on the last weekend of August and, of course, Old Threshers at Mt. Pleasant, Iowa the next weekend. I have not missed that fantastic show for several years.

I ordered a rare gasket from 'Gasket King', Toronto, Ontario, Canada last fall. Mr. Lynch sent a prompt reply with price and avail ability. A check was immediately sent, however, I had not received the gasket by mid-January so I wrote him a note. He called me long distance, twice, to get the facts and sent my check back the following week. None of this was the man's fault and besides sending back my money, he invested in two long distance calls. I hope you will be kind enough to give this honest man the recognition he deserves by printing this letter.' (O.K. Al - 'tis said and done-we all should be that honest, but it doesn't always work out that way. I must say, though, very, very few times anything like that has happened to our publications over the years. This is my 22nd year with Iron-Men Album Magazine and, of course, we are in the 14th year of G.E.M.)

THOMAS G. LEE, Route 3, Calhoun, Kentucky 42327 writes: 'I would like to correspond with people who are interested in the early model W. C. Allis Chalmers tractor, people who are in the process of restoring or have one already restored. I have two W. C. tractors already completely restored and painted. One is a 1937, the other is a 1938 model. I hope to some day have one each year back to the first 1933 model.

My dad and I also own a 40 HP J.I. Case steam traction engine, a 65 HP J.I. Case steam traction engine and a 65 HP J.I. Case portable boiler.

Keep up the good work with your magazine.'

Seeking help is DONALD R. AUGUSTINE, 7226 Lennon Road, Swartz Creek, Michigan 48473: 'I enjoy the G.E.M. and look forward to each issue. I have a Handy Andy gas engine manufactured by the Galloway Company, U.S.A. and would like help on original paint color and paint striping. Also would like information on wheel truck for this engine. This engine has 10?' fly wheels. I would appreciate any information and would gladly pay postage if anyone has the information.'

ED F. EDWARDS, P.O. Box 197, Big Bend, California 96011 sends a photo with info and questions on the Hagan engine: 'Here is a picture of a hopper-cooled Hagan engine. I have a copy of the original (reprint) catalog of the Hagan Company, Winchester, Kentucky, and it shows no pictures of a hopper-cooled Hagan and doesn't even make mention of a hopper-cooled version of the Hagan. The only engines shown in the catalog are the tank cooled type of Hagans. I would like to hear from any readers of GEM that have any information on the hopper-cooled version of the Hagan engines. Were the hopper-cooled versions of the Hagan an early experimental engine that was quickly discontinued for the tank cooled version? I have looked through all of the back lissues of GEM and have never seen any pictures of a hopper-cooled Hagan. Maybe the other gas engine nuts (like myself) would like to see what these hopper cooled Hagans look like. The tag (heavy brass) reads as follows: Reliable Gas and Gasoline Engines, Manufactured by the Hagan Gas Engine & Mfg. company, Winchester, Kentucky, Model B, S.N. 561. What was the original color of this engine? The only indication of any date on the engine is on a small brass tag that is located on top of the strange combination of the carb. & governor which are both built together as one unit, and it says Pat. April 7, 1903, if that is any indication of the year of this engine. This hopper-cooled version of the Hagan in all other respects works the same as the tank-cooled type. Throttling governed, same type of ignitor, valve train the same, etc. The engine gets gas up to the carb. (and governor) by means of two brass chains located inside the long black casting 'connected' to the bottom of the carb., as the engine runs, a belt which runs from the pulley on the flywheel to the governor and carb. combination turns a sprocket inside which cycles (turns) the chain around (inside the casting) and the gas, which sets in the bottom of the casting 'sticks' to the chain and is raised up to the carb. by means of the rotating chain, at which time the proper amount of air is mixed with the gas on the chain and of course is drawn into the combustion chamber for the compression stroke, etc. The governor (which is built into the carburetor) controls the amount of gas and air mixture going into the cylinder by means of a tapered cone shaped regulator. This Hagan engine is one of the heaviest engines (rated at 3? HP) for its size that I have ever seen. It weighs over 1200 pounds. I would sure appreciate any information that anyone has on this engine as it is the most interesting throttling governor engine that I have seen. P.S. I own this Hagan engine.

DOC SCHUSTER, 3535 Glen Oak Drive, Eugene, Oregon writes: 'I have received many appreciative letters regarding my igniter-testing article, which was very satisfying. However, most of those who wrote did not seem to know where to buy new mica insulating material to rebuild their igniters. They were supplied with the information, but I wonder how many other engine rebuilders would like this information also.

Since GEM is devoted to supplying useful information, here are the names and addresses of two potential mica suppliers: N.A. Kruse, Box 14, Park Ridge, Illinois 60068 and GOR-NEL-CO., Chicago City, Minnesota 55013. Phone 612-257-2350.' (Hope this helps some of you fellows hunting mica material and thanks 'Doc')

GLENN ALLEN, Schaller, Iowa 51053 says: 'I am trying desperately to gather more information about that Augustine engine that was in Sept.-Oct. 1976 GEM. Anything you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!' (Anyone out there-if you can write Glenn with some date-he is really awaiting your letters.)

ROMEO DAUPHINAIS, 822 Minnie Street, Port Huron, Michigan 48060 tells us: 'I was visiting in Wisconsin last fall with a friend who has quite a few antique water and air-cooled engines. I am interested in air-cooled ones. I have three Briggs and Stratton at present (W-Wl-A). I do not know how old they are. My friend tells me I may be able to obtain this information from you.' (Not from me Romeo, but perhaps from some of our readers-here's hoping they get in touch with you.)

And here comes another informative letter on an item many may be interested in - VERNE KINDSCHI, Route 1, Box 66, Prairie du Sac, Wisconsin 53578 sends it along: 'After having restored gas engines for almost 20 years now, one problem I have often run into is that the insulated grommet type washers, which were made of fibre, were deteriorated beyond use from weather, oil and moisture.

This type of washer is generally found on jump spark ignition engines, using battery and coil; they were used on the timing device.

As these fibre washers are not readily available today, and being that there are so many different sizes, it has always been a big problem how to insulate the timing spring.

I have recently used some material (available thanks to space age technology) which works real good for making new washers. I bought some Teflon, round rod, and machined this rod into the washers of the size which I need. This Teflon is very durable, and machines extremely easy, and can be machined very thin without breaking. Although it is quite expensive, one must remember that it takes very little of the rod for each washer.

I recently machined four washers, using one inch of rod. Thus the cost per washer is quite small. Although I realize Teflon is nothing real new, and perhaps many have used it, only recently have I 'discovered' it.

Probably this Teflon rod is available from many places; however, the one place I know of where you can order it in small quantities is Coles' Power Models, Box 788, Ventura, California 93001.'

MICHAEL HORAK, Dutton, Montana 59433 sends a lengthy letter: 'I have been reading your G.E.M. magazine (subscribed to by my son, Charles) for quite a few years now and I sorta feel like I know you personally.

In your March-April 1978 issue on page 12, I read a letter from Oliver Sorrel, R.D. 2, Box 246, Morrisonville, New York, asking for information for his engine No. 15, J 16126 R.P.M. 775, HP 1?-2, part numbers prefix G.E.

This is the fourth time I have seen letters in GEM asking for information about this engine. I have an engine like it. I don't know who made it, but it was sold by Sears Roebuck & Company during the 1930s to early 1940s. It is painted light brick red, resembling red lead. When Sears quit selling the Economy, this little engine was the only water-cooled engine sold by Sears.

The Economy is a heavy weight water-cooled engine made in 6 sizes, 1? to 12 HP, was painted a medium red and was made by the Hercules Engine Company. Maybe they made this little engine for Sears-I don't know.

I found my little engine in an abandoned farm junk yard. The Wico magneto was gone and the lever to operate the magneto was broken off, but of course, I had to get that engine running. For ignition, I made a breaker box and fastened it to the water hopper where the magneto was. Into this box I installed the movable breaker point with lever, from an old air-cooled model Z Briggs & Stratton washing machine engine. Opposite this point, I screwed the adjustable point from a Model A Ford distributor. Along side this I placed condenser and mounted a 6 volt Ford coil on top the breaker box.

To activate the breaker points, I installed a push rod from the cam lever up into the breaker box to the movable breaker point. The push rod is made of a short piece of a plastic pencil so it won't short out the breaker points. I use a six volt battery for ignition-any way the engine runs.

Last fall I visited a cousin in North Dakota and lo and behold-he had an engine like mine, but a later model, all there and in running order. He said he got it new from Sears Roebuck and Company in 1942.'

A man seeking help through this column is EDWARD G. WHEELER, R.R. 2, Sibley, Iowa 51249: 'Recently I received an old tester of some sort and I would like to know just what it is and how to use it.

It is a wooden box approximately 9' square and 5' high. Inside is a light bulb and a K.W. buzz coil with the buzzer on the outside of the box. No wires are connected to the coil. On the top are 2 light bulbs, one large and one small, 3 wires with insulated probes and a switch. The unit has a cord for an ordinary household plug in. If anyone out in Gas Engine Land can help, I would appreciate it very much.' (NUFF SAID-if you know-let Ed know-thanks.)

MARVIN L. SMITH, R. 2, Box 306, Alexandria, Indiana 46001 wants some answers: 'I recently acquired an old 2-wheel walk behind garden tractor. I would like any information that anyone could give me as to age, paint scheme, and are decals available? Is the company still in business? What is the HP of the engine and etc?

It is a Standard Twin S/N 405C7729 manufactured by the Standard Engine Company, Minneapolis, Minnesota, 2 cyl. cam drive with 2 speeds forward and one reverse rear P.T.O.-individual wheel brakes 18' spoke wheels, impulse F.M. mag crank start. I have it running but used carb. as it is cracked and leaks fuel. Any help would be appreciated.'

A short letter with a request comes from PHILIP G. VAZZANA, 242 S. Poplar Street, Greenville, Mississippi 38701: 'I have looked back through my issues of GEM and cannot find any information on how to check magnetos. Can any of you guys tell me a simple way to check magnets and condensers? This information will be forwarded back to G.E.M. for subscriber information.' (Thanks Phil, send it along if you get some replies.)

PAUL G. BARESEL, 14139 Riverview, Detroit, Michigan 48223, phone 313-534-3889 has a few questions: 'I am a newcomer to the world of flywheeling. I got involved with flywheeling while in Florida. I didn't devote much time to it due to my duties while in the U.S. Coast Guard. I am now relocated in Detroit, Michigan. My future wife comes from here and we met in Florida.

I would like your help on a few questions. Since I am a newcomer to the Detroit area and not originally from it, does the GEM know of any clubs in the area I can get involved with. I would also like to hear from fellow flywheelers in the area. Where would I find out what color to paint a 1912-13 McCormick Deering 1? HP gas engine? Where could I find a listing of any shows in the area or state? (Many listings and ads are published in the G.E.M. Also you will notice our ad in the magazine for the Steam and Gas Directory which can be purchased from our office in Lancaster-it has hundreds of listings of shows in it and right now sells for $2.50.)

GENE HARTWIG, 4884 Brigham Road, Goodrich, Michigan sends a letter and picture as he asks: 'Would anyone out there in Engine Land have one of these Victor Tractor Kits? Would anyone around Loudonville, Ohio know who made it, etc.?

I have a tractor like this. I cut this ad from a January 1922 issue of Tractor and Gas Engine Review. I would surely appreciate hearing from anyone.'

BERT HINES, 7666 No. Orange Avenue, Cape Canaveral, Florida 32920 writes: 'Friends-It was a great surprise to find my Bessemer Engines books reviewed in the present issue. Not only great, but a pleasant surprise too.

Please accept my thanks to you all, and a citation of merit to Bill Lenox for a job nicely done.

The book has sold 75 copies to date. Not enough to pay its printing costs, but certainly enough to establish me as a person, though without an engineering background, greatly interested in antique engines, and a person who takes delight in researching an engine.

Some of the gratifying results of such research are those one meets, either by mail, phone, or in person.

Far beyond the monetary gains or losses lies the pure gold of new contacts made; new people with old ideas I'd never imagined, and older people with new ideas far ahead of anything I'd imagined.

For example, new people, often young, now exploring the hot air and solar heated air engine potentials in old turn of the century experiments; and old stationary engineer citing the rare 'convertibles' that ran on both combustive substances, as well as, and simultaneously with, steam. Information is the 'pay-dirt' of research, and my greatest pleasure; who needs better reasons to follow these persuasions?

Communicating by mail comes this letter from R. B. (DICK) ALLAN, Box 66, Dubuc, Sask., Canada SOA 0R0: 'I am a relatively new subscriber to your magazine having so far received just two copies, but have really enjoyed them both. It has a lot of really useful information. I have been collecting one lungers for the past couple of years and find it a very rewarding hobby.

I have two engines that are almost identical. They have a brass plate stating they were sold by T. Eaton Company of Canada Ltd. That is the only identification they have. No engine number of name or date or anything else. One has an air-cooled head and gear-driven governor while the other has a water-cooled head and a flywheel governor, both hit and miss.

The one with the air-cooled head has the cast iron base arched on each side, while the other is flat all around. I remember these engines when I was younger, but never owned one. I remember one engine that seemed to be the same as these, but it was painted dark green or black and it seems to me it was called Waterloo. I would like to know who made these engines. The one I know, was around a 1914-15 vintage. I also have a 7 HP Pride of the West made by Desjardin Company. The general construction and design seems to be the same as the Eaton engines. Now, did Desjardin make engine for Eatons or did Waterloo?

Hope someone can give me some information on these engines. (Hope so too, Dick).

Another new member of the family needs help as SKIP R. WHITE, Box 125, Mesilla Rock, New Mexico 88047 writes: 'I am a newcomer to the Gas Engine hobby and would appreciate all the help I can get. I have a Stover, Model K, 1? HP gas engine that is missing the exhaust rocker arm, mounting bracket and whatever holds or guides the push rod to activate the exhaust rocker arm. Any information about this particular gas engine would be greatly appreciated.'

This letter written in March comes from H. L. RITTER, Route 5, Box 127, Fulton, New York 13069: 'Spring is in the air and engine in the blood. According to our weatherman, we had over 200 inches of snow here in Fulton, New York (not all at once). A few bare spots are beginning to show through.

Here is some information on the G E engine. I have two addresses of manufacture-General Engine Company, Franklin Park, Illinois. And I was told this was a sub-division of Auburn Cord & Dusenberg, Auburn, Indiana (car mfg's.)

The Syracuse Surplus Co. now Morleys of Syracuse, New York purchased a large quantity of them in the mid 1950s. They sold for approximately $72.00. Few were sold, so after a year the price was cut in half to get rid of them as the company was moving.

These engines, I am told, run hot. My engine has a 2?' bore, 17/8' stroke. It has a blurred decal with Franklin Park, Illinois address. The carburetor is Tillotson and a mechanical governor. Some of these engines had a nameplate.as I have the rubbing of one. It includes S.N. 156053. The valve clearance setting, intake .009 cold-exhaust .012 cold on the Model D. The model will be found only on engine with nameplate. The head, I understand, is quite flat and has quite a high compression. Also hard on head gaskets.

To lengthen gasket life, drill and counter bore head and block for 1/4-20 cap screw. Do this in between each head bolt. It gives a more even squeeze on the gasket. I also tape a piece of grit paper to a smooth surface and lap gasket surface of head for smoothness and to connect warpage. That is about all I can say about the G E engine in general.

The engines sold in Syracuse were sometimes connected somehow to a water pump.

I will soon be getting after a couple engines, Gray and Empire. Have had some parts reworked during the winter months. Also have 2 Ottawas to get running. It will be nice weather when you read this, so enjoy as another winter is on its way.'

EDWIN H. BREDEMIER, Steinauer, Nebraska 68441 wants to know if someone in the Gas Engine Land could tell him how to mix gas and oil for a 3/4 HP Associated air-cooled engine that was on a washing machine.

RAY PICHEL of R.D. 1, Box 213, Hellertown, Pennsylvania 18055 sends a note to share with you: 'Necessity Ah, the Mother of Invention- recently bought an engine with an improvised rocker arm. Seems the original rocker arm was either broken or lost, so this dude used an engine truck wheel which had the same size diameter as the length of the rocker arm. He cut off half of the wheel and put a bushing in the bore to accept the rocker ar bot and presto - a rocker arm!'

MRS. WALTER 'DOC' SCHRAGE, 1219 Lawn Avenue, New Haven, Indiana 46774 writes: 'I will answer all of Walter's letters sent to him. If anyone wants the years of IHC 1904 to 1916 gas engines, send parts numbers of 1 to 50 HP - Titan, Tom Thumb, Famous, Nonparial, Famous, Victor, Mogul Jr. 1 to 50 HP Moguls, send parts numbers, serial number and prefix letter. Send SASE and please print clearly.

Also years for McDeering 'M' 1?-3-6-10 HP. L-1? rare one. LA - LB -1?-2?-3-5 HP. Send prefix letter, HP, serial number. We also have years of 1921-1960 cast iron Briggs& Stratton. Send HP, serial number, type anf if 2 flywheels. Years of 1923-1946 John Deere 1? E 3E 6-E, 1? E 3EK 6 - EP. Send HP and serial number. Years for Maytags. Send type, Serial number, HP vertical flywheel 10? - ? HP 12' - 1 HP. Specify battery and coil or magneto coil. Model 82 - send base size 13 x 3 - 19? x 3? - and serial number. FY - ED 4 -19? x 3?, 13? x 3? 13?x 2? and serial number. Maytag years Twin Cyl 72 D Wico coil 1937 to 1942; 72 D Eiseman, none manufactured 1943 - 1944-1945 war products; 72 D A - large coil, serial number have 6 and 7 digits. NOTE: We have collected serial numbers of Maytag 45, 941.

We enjoy your wonderful magazine. Doc is getting much better, thanks to GEM. We received over 500 cards-it sure cheered up Doc.'

CARL BLACKWELL, Route 2, Box 206C, Wynne, Arkansas 72396 says: 'I have just bought a John Deere Model LA with the serial number plate missing. Could anyone tell me what year this tractor was built by the number cast on the engine block - L4210T and 9-22-A. I also need some parts (see ad).

AL HASE, 7113 W. 2nd Street, Rio Linda, California 95673 pens this note: 'God bless you and yours from California for a wonderful job on the help we need. As some other gas engine nuts, I thought that I would never write to G.E.M. for help, but I was wrong so I need help with a Bull Pup (I never heard of that-I've heard of Bull Dog) mfg. by Bates & Edmonds of Lansing, Michigan, S.N. B24959. I would like to know the age of it. Also the rocker arm is missing. No one in the club has one like it as far as I can find out. I hope some gas engine nut, like me, out there in Engine Land can help me.'

Get pens and papers, guys, as this fellow wants a lot of answers: TOM HICKEL, 135 Schwartz Road, Lancaster, New York 14086 writes: I have an Ellinwood engine made in Los Angeles, California, Model 44, HP 4.4, Serian #5014. It is very well built. It has an aluminum block with timken bearings on the crankshaft and a cast iron cylinder. It seems the engine was manufactured for industrial use, because it has a large gasoline tank. I would like to know how popular these are and how many were built, what was their main purpose and how the governor is set up.

Then I have an Emerson & Brantingham Type H, S.N. 43879. I would like to know how many of these were built and the approximate age. I would also like to know the approximate value in various parts of the country.

Now then, my Fairmont and Montingham engine has no identification plate. I think it is 1? HP. Where were these built? How many were made? Also would like the date of manufacture and value in various parts of the country.

I have a Flying Dutchman, 1? HP, S.N. 35380. I would like to know when it was built and approximate value.

I also have a Vanduzen made in Columbus, Ohio. I cannot find any model number. The only one I can find is 2? stamped on the crank. It seems to me it stands for the horsepower. I would like any information on this engine.

Thanks for your help and cooperation. All letters will be answered.'

DOUGLAS ERICKSON, 3952 Douglas Road, Coconut Grove, Florida 33133 writes: 'We have a boat powered by a Murray and Tregurtha Marine Engine, serial #530 showing the last patent date of May 31, 1904. When the boat was hauled and stored in about 1917 the salt water was drained from the water jackets, but unfortunately the latter were not flushed with fresh water. Through the years, the salt crystals that remained continued to cause rusting with attendant swelling that has cracked the four separate cylinders wide open. Is thee any way of repairing this condition? To cast new cylinders without patterns would cost a fortune, yet the rest of the engine is in mint condition. Any suggestions will be deeply appreciated.'

An informative letter comes from JACK W. HEALD of Turlock, California: 'There seems to be a new revised interest in the Fordson tractor, now that they are becoming scarce.

I have noticed that your readers send in many inquiries concerning the Fordsons, so perhaps they might be interested in knowing that a National Fordson tractor club exists. The membership fee is only $1.00 a year to cover postage as all correspondence is by mail, although individual members manage to get together at major swap meets.

About three years ago this started as a local club, spread nationwide, and now has over 100 members in most states, Canada, England, Scotland, Australia and New Zealand. We exchange information, and I send out a 'Fordson Newsletter' every 6 months.

From the overseas correspondence we have now found two Fordson publications available, as well as reprints of original manuals, a number of books containing articles on Fordsons, model toy Fordsons available, etc.

Recently I have become the American distributor for the 'Fordson, 1929-1952 models, Part I,' by Allen Condie of Scotland. Also, the 4-times-yearly 'Fordson Magazine and Register' by Arthur Battelle of England, can be ordered through our club. Both of these contain a series articles, historical information, pictures, maintenance hints, etc., concerning the Fordsons models 'F', 'N', and 'E 27 N's.

Here in Turlock a complete card file index is kept on 'Wanted' and 'For Sale' new and used parts, (as well as tractors). We have located and purchased some NOS parts, and are looking for more all the time. For example we can provide NOS (New Old Stock) head gaskets, pistons, valves, etc. We can also obtain newly manufactured fan belts, radiator caps, and even manifolds.

From original company lists we can identify the year (and sometimes, month) of manufacture, provide original paint colors, xerox copies of factory and privately produced accessories and attachments....for example, like the Ferguson plow, a two point system invented by Ferguson, who later went in with Henry for the Ford- Ferguson system.

So, perhaps some of your readers might want to join our organization. Write to: Jack W. Heald, Big Valley Fordson Tractor Club, 2160 Carrigan, Turlock, California 95380.

JOHN VIALAND, Route 2, Box 108C, Argos, Indiana 46501 needs your help: 'I have recently purchased a small tractor made by Shaw Mfg. Company of Galesburg, Kansas. It is a Shaw Du-All model R 12 T, powered by a two cylinder Wisconsin air-cooled engine model T F. This tractor is similar to an unstyled model 'L' John Deere, but it is slightly smaller. I would appreciate hearing from anyone with information about the tractor and/or manufacturer.

Thanks for this service. I enjoy your magazine very much and look forward to each issue.'

Here's a letter from PVT. E-2 EDWARD G. CHRISTIAN, 203-50-2725, M Co. 3/3 ACR, Fort Bliss, Texas 79916: 'G.E.M. is a wonderful magazine - and my favorite. I wish it would come monthly because I can't wait for the next issue.

I have many small engines and G.E.M. has helped me identify them. I just bought a flywheel engine yesterday-March 20, 1979-not far from El Paso. Jan.-Feb. issue 79 identified it as a Fuller & Johnson Model N. I think it is a 3 HP. I would like to thank the people of G.E.M. for new friends I met through it. I have some old light plants and glass cells for them. I have a Farmall F-12. I've also got a complete Cunningham lawn mower with the Model EA engine like in Jan.-Feb. 78 issue.

I am from Pennsylvania and now in Fort Bliss, El Paso, Texas, area and would like to find more engine collectors. I would like to hear from someone who knows about 16 vt. Brenard #243 cycle, water-cooled light plant with Robbins & Meyers generator.'

Next letter comes from JIM WALDORF, R.R. 3, Osakis, Minnesota 56360: 'I am just getting started in old tractors. I have always been interested in them and now after about two years I have acquired 3 F-20 Farmalls. I have subscribed to your magazine and I think it is great. I am 24 years old and enjoy working on my old tractors in my spare time.

I could use a little help. I would like to know how to tell the correct year of an F-20 when the serial number is missing. Also, any other information on the F-20 anyone could give me. One of the F-20s is a parts tractor.

I also ran across an old 6 cylinder Rumely tractor on steel. It is believed to be a 1928 model with serial number 6A786 with 50 HP on the belt. It was last used to run a sawmill out in the woods and has been under an old shed. The engine is free and should run without too much trouble. Does anyone have one or could anyone tell me more about this tractor? Also, is it very rare? Is this the correct year of the tractor? I would also like to know what this tractor's approximate value is in running condition. Any information would be greatly appreciated.'

GEORGE BOYER writes: 'To everyone who has corresponded with me in the last couple of years, I now have a P.O. Box and so my new mailing address is Box 422, Smith River, California 95567.

I found some snapshots of an Aermotor, 3 HP that someone sent me while I was going to Oklahoma State Tech in Okmulgee, Oklahoma and I don't know if I answered your letter. The pictures were taken in the back of a pick-up, sort of burnt orange in color. I would like to thank you at this time.

My handwriting isn't the best, and I think Anna Mae might have misread some things in my last letter to Smoke Rings (very possible, George) in the March-April issue. First, the Sattley-Montgomery Ward engine should be 1? HP instead of 1 HP and the 4 counties mentioned should be Mendocino, Humbolt, Del Norte and Currie, in case anyone had tried to find them on a map and ended up thinking that maybe there were some awfully small counties in California.

Anyone know of serial numbers lists for Ottawa? Still need a date on my 5 HP S.N. TE27344.

Good luck with your finding and fixing of the old lungers.'

Next letter comes from overseas- GEROGE JOHNSTON, 1270 Gold Coast Highway, Palm Beach 4221, Queensland, Australia: 'I have a small collection of vintage stationary engines. The latest addition is a Frost King made by the John Lauson Manufacturing Company, New Holstein, Wisconsin. I have written Tecumseh Products Company and their Mr. Jack Lichles suggested I contact you regarding the age of this engine, as unfortunately owing to change of ownership of the company, little or no material is available to reference the models.

The engine in question was purchased second hand in November 1927, by the father of the person from whom I purchased it. He thought it was bought new in the early 1920s. Incidentally, it was still in running order and had been used as recently as December '78. Details of engine as follows Engine No. 23496, HP 1?, RPM 475. I am hoping you can be of assistance to me as I would like to compile a history of each engine.'

DON FITZGERALD, 2362 Gale Road, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105 has some information which will interest some of you: 'For all the Fordson fanciers in G.E.M. Land, I would like to recommend you get a subscription to the Fordson Tractor Magazine and Register. Subscription information can be found on page 25 of your Nov.-Dec. 1978 issue of G.E.M. I have found it to be entertaining and very informative.

On another subject now-the brass fitting on the later model Fordson Holley carburetor does not lend itself to modern gas line installation. This fitting can be replaced with an Aeroquip #2216 x 4 x 6. This will allow the use of modern copper line compression style fittings.

Still on carburetors, but for the Marvel-Schebler TRX-15 on your Graham-Bradley. There is a distributor who has gasket sets and needle/seat shut-off units. The address is V. E. Petersen, Distributor, 28101 E. Broadway, Walbridge, Ohio. Phone 419-838-5911. Mr. Baumbarger.

The last item is this-a club has been started in California for Fordson tractors. For one dollar they will send you a newsletter. The address is Big Valley Fordson Club, Attention: Mr. Jack W. Heald, 2160 Carrigan, Turlock, California. I hope this information proves useful to someone.

A new member of our G.E.M. family writes: 'I am a newcomer to collecting old engines. I am 15 years old. The only thing I have running is a 1928 Caterpillar tractor, Model 10. Now here is my problem. My grandfather gave me an old Fordson tractor. It had set out under an evergreen tree for at least 30 years. It seems to be in pretty good condition, but is very weathered. I would like to know the age of this tractor, but I looked all over and cannot find a serial number. I've seen other Fordsons at engine shows, but none quite like this. It has a closed sided radiator and the gasoline tank is combined with the kerosene tank, not on the side of the air washer. The kerosene vaporizer has been removed and converted to run on gasoline. And also what was the original color of this?

I would also like to know if there are any engine clubs in Connecticut that I could join. Any help would be appreciated.'

W.E. NEAL, 613 8th Avenue, Charles City, Iowa 50616 sends this along: 'You had a question raised on when Farmall came out with the F-30 Farmall. I have a 1932 March-April Tractor Farming Magazine put out by International Harvester Company. It shows that the Farmall 30 recently took its place beside the original 2 plow Farmall.

I believe they came out with the F-30 in the fall of 1931. They never were painted green. The original color was a dark blue-gray with red wheels. I had the first red Farmall that was sold new. I got it new in the spring of 1936; the next year they were all painted red. It was an F-30, serial number 10101.

M & H came out in the fall of 1939. I have books to prove all of this. This winter I purchased an F-20 Farmall. With the deal I also got a lot of old tractor catalogs on steam engines, gas tractors, etc.

That's about it for now-at this time as I am writing this we are under the threat of having to be evacuated due to the accident at Three Mile Island-It is not pleasant thinking of what could happen-but this I know-God knows all about it-and I'm sure he loves every one of us dearly and we'll just have to keep our trust in Him. Whatever happens, Christ has said 'Lo I am with you always'-I hope many people are praying and turning to God- Proverbs 3:5-6 tells us - Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy paths.

GEMuinely and With Love Anna Mae