Now for the funny part! I had been hounded to sell it and turned down all offers, since it was the only sideshaft I had and a small one to boot. One party that was interested in buying the engine asked if I would be at the farm the next day, and I said 'probably'. I stayed away from the farm the following day. About 4:00 this person came to my house and told my wife he had bought the engine from me but couldn't find me, and was wondering about leaving the money and taking the engine. He got the engine, Ruth got the money, and I got the shaft (not the side shaft). Yes, she kept the money! 'It's all in the family anyway,' she explained. (Andy sounds like a good sport, who loves his wife.)
This picture is of a new subscriber, who may have become our youngest, this May. Her name is JENNIFER HILL, 13127 W. Watson Road, St. Louis, Missouri 63127 and she turned 3 years old in May. The engine is a 3 HP Fairbanks she got from her grandpa, who worked with her dad to restore it. She reports, 'I have shown my engine at the Arch Show, May 20, 1984. I received an exhibitor ribbon and button for showing my engine. I belong to the Ill-Mo Tractor & Engine Club, Inc.' Welcome to Engine Land, Jennifer!
Very interested and seeking information, this communication comes from MRS. EUGENE BERG, R.R.2 Wege Road, Appleton, Wisconsin 54915: 'My husband and I just purchased an Eagle 6B tractor. As far as we have been able to find out, these tractors were built around 1936 by the Eagle Manufacturing Co. of Appleton, Wisconsin. The tractor has all its original parts and we want to restore it to its original condition. We would like to gather as much background information as possible about the tractor and Eagle Manufacturing Co. We also need to know what the original color is, where we can get a picture of it in color, if there is a possibility of getting decals for it. We would greatly appreciate any information you can give us.' (How about it friends, can you help these folks)?
An interesting letter comes which may be of interest to many from MYSTIC SEAPORT MUSEUM, Nancy d'Estang, Shipyard Research, Mystic, Connecticut 06355: 'The Shipyard of the Mystic Seaport Museum is restoring a Gloucester fishing schooner from 1921. Originally, she had installed a 1923 Fairbanks Morse 100 HP marine engine a diesel engine CO, made in Michigan. That is all of the information we have.
'Is there anyone who has a collection of old Fairbanks Morse catalogues from which we could get specifications on these engines? Specifically, we need to know the diameter of the propeller shaft and the crank shaft before we can correctly rebuild the 'shaft log'. We have contacted the company, but their records were destroyed 25 years ago when the marine division was consolidated in Beloit, Wisconsin.
(I hope someone out there will be able to help you, Nancy, so watch the mail!)
An important message comes from MERL BARNES, 7013 North view, Boise, Idaho 83704: 'I found something that may be a help to old tractor collectors. There is quite a lot of two inch pitch, one and one quarter inch roller width roller chain in the junk yard here. It would cost fifteen cents per pound, a small charge for cutting and freight. Write me and I will get it and ship it to you. I do not expect to make a profit. I made arrangements for them to hold it until the next G.E.M. comes out.' (Thanks much, Merl, I bet some of the fellows will be appreciative of this let him hear right away).
Seeking many answers, this letter comes from DWAIN RUSH, Route 1, St. Vrain, New Mexico 88133: 'I have acquired a few old engines. I have one that no one in this part of the country knows anything about. It has about a 3' bore and 5' stroke. The flywheels are 1 wide 19' across with the number 1H21. The head has a number 1K47. Carb. or gas mixer has number 1K50 12 on it. I would like to know the make, color, age and any other information. I really look forward to the wealth of information I get.'
JACK VERSTEEG, 1215 Jays Dr. N.E., Salem, Oregon97303 writes: 'I have gotten quite a few inquiries about the article in the Jan-Feb. issue and most have been quite pleasant. I would like however, to add the following:
I want to thank all of you who inquired about the article about the building of a magnet charger and coil. In our correspondence I have learned a lot and hope that you have too. The side note on the article was made entirely from my experience and no one else's. I am sure that things are quite different in other areas of the country. The main article was originally printed in an issue of Gas Power from the early 1900's. I did not add or subtract anything from this article. It has been reprinted in other periodicals from time to time and is not meant to be gospel, just informational. Thank you!'
'I recently acquired a Universal Unimoter 2 KW 110 volt engine made by Universal Motor Co., Oshkosh, Wisconsin. It is a 4 cyl. with an American Bosch magneto, Mayer updraft carb. from Buffalo, New York, brass radiator and 3 brass priming cups. The gas tank is under the engine. The person I brought it from said it is about 1922 and is a 14 HP. I need more information and to know the firing order, year etc. Engine No. is 5409.' (This comes from STAN MATLOWSKl, R.D.#i, Box 199, Hunlock Creek, Pennsylvania 18621).
'I have been reading G.E.M. for three years and have enjoyed it very much. The articles are great,' states JOHN NOAKES, 7380 Mosherville Road, Litchfield, Michigan 49252. Phone 517-542-3512.
'Now I need some help. I have two Gibson tractors, a model D and Model Super D. I would like to know if anyone has any information on the Gibson Tractor Company. The tractor was produced by Western American Industries, Inc. from Longmont, Colorado and Seattle, Washington. I would like to know when and how long they were in business, any information on serial numbers and original colors.'
(According to C. H. Wendel's Encyclopedia of American Tractors, the Gibsons were marketed in the early 1950's and only for a few years. Four models were presented, using either Wisconsin or Hercules engines. Maybe another Gibson collector can give you more details!)
'I have a question for Gas Engine readers! In 1938 the Avery Farm Machinery Co. of Peoria, Illinois produced a straddle row tractor that could be readily changed from a tricycle type for cultivating to a standard tread four-wheel conventional type. This was done by swinging the wheels and spindles in or out as needed. The trade name was RO-TRAK. An artist's picture of this tractor is shown on page 34 of The Agricultural Tractor 1855-1950, part II. Does any collector have one of these and how was steering accomplished? (If you have the answer please write ]OHN R. HEATH, Box 57'C School Street, Sullivan, Ohio 44880).
'I'm sending you a picture of the cutest little engine I ever got hold of. I got it up north of Clinton, back in the hills from an old boy who took it all apart and could not get it back together,' says ELWOOD BUD HUTT, Route 2, Poplar Street, Clinton, Arkansas 72031.
He continues: 'It runs good but don't know what it was used for. The name plate states Mote Mower Co. 'Junior' Detroit, Michigan #J258-Model EB Engine #1167. From the looks of the little mag it must be very old and not too many around.
Love your articles and magazine hate to even lay it down more power to you folks!
P.S.That's a Fairbanks Morse in the background.'
MIKE HILL, R.R.I, Helenville, Wisconsin 53137 Phone 414-593-8404, purchased a Harley Davidson gas engine built in Milwaukee, Wisconsin and would like information such as the year it was built and HP. He wonders whether anyone else has one like it.
He sends this picture with this information taken from the engine: Harley Davidson Motor Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Engine #686, Model F515, 2 7/8' bore and 3' stroke, 21 cu. in. eng., 4 cycle air-cooled engine, counter clockwise rotation, throttling governor, Tillotson carb and the magneto was an American Bosch Type S, crankshaft and connecting rod have roller bearings. The only other information he has come up with is it was built sometime in World War I for a railroad company.
'After reading the Sept-Oct. 1983 issue for close to the 10th time, I came across this 1935 Mechanix St Invention magazine diagram showing, of all things, a 110 volt as power plant being powered by a 2 cylinder Maytag engine, tells LLOYD A. DEAN, Route 3, Box 309, Tuscola, Illinois 61953.
'According to Mr. Jensen's serial number chart, the first of these engines was built in 1937 and my own was built in September 1937. This picture of a twin cylinder engine appeared in 1935. It is exactly like my 1937. Waukesha built opposed 2 engines early, but they were much longer than this one.
If anyone has a comment or wishes to correct me, please do so.
I just can't tell you how much I enjoy G.E.M. I especially enjoy reading about others working for months on pure junk just to have it run again. To suggest using a restored engine for any purpose besides show is to invite looks of utter shock from the owners.'
Seeking information, this letter comes from REGINALD R. LOVIS, 5582 Little Canada Rd., East Bethany, New York 14054: 'I have a railroad section car mfg. by the Adams Co., Chicago, Illinois. Was this engine made by the company that made road building equipment? Engine is two cycle and the flywheel is the wheel that runs on the rail to drive the car. I have the engine about ready to run hope to have it in our show in Alexander in September. I have been to a lot of shows in U.S.A. and Canada and have never seen one of these engines. Any information will be appreciated.'
RICHARD WINDSOR, Box 202, 11955 Allegan, Irving, New York 14081 needs a question answered: 'I am restoring a 8 HP Patten gas engine, but I have a problem. The engine is complete all but a flange that goes over a 2 ' hole on the left side. What I am trying to find out is what is this hole for? It is either an auxiliary exhaust, an auxiliary intake or a water hole for water. There should be someone out there that has run one of these, for it is on a little power pump, an oil well, which is pictured in the Wendel's American Gasoline Engs. on page 384.'
Seeking advice on the following, RUSSELL N. WARREN, 1091 4th Street, Los Alamos, New Mexico, 87544 sends this: 'I recently obtained the engine pictured. It is called a Hurst Greyhound, 3 HP, manufactured by the H. L. Hurst Mfg. Co. in Canton, Ohio. Mr. Owen Hartley had a letter in Smoke Rings in the Mar-Apr. '84 issue on page 15 about the same engine. Notice how the valves and spark plug are all in a separate cut-out piece that can be taken off. The number on mine is 3 610.I have found some old ads from the company in the Breeders Gazette about 1914 or 15. They manufactured sprayers. I found one ad in a Country Gentleman that just advertised the engine alone. Does anyone have any information about this engine-color, dates, etc? All letters will he answered.'
A letter sails in from RAYMOND SCHOLL, Route 1 Box 459-A, Sugar Grove, North Carolina 28679. Phone 704-297-4406: 'I have recently acquired a 1 HP Springfield mfg. at Springfield, Ohio. The engine has side shaft and cross shaft across the front of the cylinder. The governor is driven by a round belt and the flywheels have five spokes. The engine weighs a whopping 550 pounds. Does anyone out in Engine Land know the correct color scheme and pin striping pattern? There are traces of maroon and in some places dark green over maroon. Can anyone tell me the year of manufacture? It is 1 HP #2820 Type A. This engine was operated on natural gas and is of the 4 cycle type. I would also appreciate hearing from other Springfield owners. Have a good summer and keep the flywheels spinning.'
Perhaps this is a new find for many of you folk sit sounds like a good place to visit on your list of museums. ELMER WINN, 665 Highland Park Drive, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70808 sends this: 'Recently while my wife, Joan, and I were on vacation in Arizona, we had a pleasant surprise. We were visiting the small mountain town of Jerome, and found the 'Gold King Mine &l Museum.' From about a quarter of a mile away we could see a large gas engine hard at work. The engine turned out to be an open crankcase 30 HP Witte sawing firewood. We learned this engine runs 8 hours a day, 7 days a week and has not missed a day in nearly two years.
'The Gold King Mine & Museum is a 'Hands On' mine museum 18 years in the making by Don & Terry Robertson. They have a children's petting farm, an Assay Office, a Blacksmith Shop and the ever present Boot Hill. There were many gas engines on display from HP to 80 HP.
'As an owner of a Fairbanks Morse Type H 6 HP I was especially interested in Don's Fairbanks Morse collection. Some I noted were a 1 HP Type Z Headless, a 3 HP Type Z, a 1 HP and a 2 HP Style D, a 7 HP Type ZC, a 15 HP Type N, a 22 HP Type N Sectionalized Hoist and a huge three cylinder 80 HP Type R. Other engines were a 50 HP West coast Side-shaft, a 1937 Maytag lawnmower and a 5 HP Pierson with a flywheel that contains the radiator.
'The entrance to the museum is through a gift shop featuring paintings by Terry Robertson. She paints on 'found objects' such as saws, gold pans, old skillets, old shovels, flat rocks and barn wood.
'The Gold King Mine also has a picnic area and campground with restrooms and hot showers. So if you are ever in this area I would recommend stopping by and trying some of Don &. Terry's hospitality.' (Sounds like something a bit new and no doubt a good place to stop when traveling).
JOHN R. RESCH, 216 Coleman Avenue, Spencerport, New York 14559 sends this: 'I have been receiving your magazine since 1971 and I have every issue. Every once in a while, I go to the basement and get an envelope of them. I keep each year in a separate envelope. I want to take time to comment on this wonderful magazine. It is the only magazine I know of in which everything you read is good. Every other magazine I pick up has some smut of some kind, but not G.E.M. Thanks for a magazine such as this!
'I would like to know if someone who reads this magazine could possibly help me. I have recently acquired a Waterloo Boy gas engine, about 2 HP. According to C. H. Wendel's book, they only made this engine one year. I think it's 1912 and I would like to find someone who has an engine like this as there are a few things that need repair. I need to know more about ignition, painting and striping etc. Thanks again for a beautiful magazine!'
'Enclosed are two photographs of a one-lung engine I located in a field. I wonder if you might recognize the make. Looking through old books, I think it might be a Ferro Special, but I am not sure. Any advice will be of assistance to me,' writes JOSEPH A. KOVACS, Box 857, Gold River, British Columbia, Canada VOP-1G0.
NORMAN W. NYHOF, Route 1, Oostburg, Wisconsin 53070 sends out a call for help as he asks: 'Does anyone out there in Engine Land have any information on a 1924 Fuller &. Johnson? I would especially like to know the combined weight of the connecting rod and 3' piston complete with bearings, rings and wrist pin. direct connected Fuller & Johnson power plant as shown on page 192 of Wendel's American Gasoline Engines.
I received this lite plant a short time ago and any information would be very much appreciated. Many thanks!'
A very informative letter comes from ANTHONY BAKKEN JR., 2175 Mangum Road, Memphis, Tennessee 38134: 'If anybody wants information on the IHC Type L engine I have it as I own the 33rd one built. Engine numbers went from 101 to 600 so only 499 were made.
This comes out of the last engine parts book that IHC printed in 6-27-38, EC*1-A Parts Catalog-McCormick-Deering Engines. ENGINE SERIAL NUMBERS (Built at Milwaukee Works, 1714 West Bruce Street, Milwaukee, Wis. Serial shop number is stamped on name-plate only). Engines are numbered as follows: 1 HP Type 'L', Gasoline, skidded(500 R.P.M.).. .EW101 to EW600 made in 1929Magneto Used Wico EK.
This book also covers LA 1 235 HP Type M 1, 3, 6, 10 HP; Type L 1 HP. Also has all serial numbers for above and year manufactured.
A story for the Engine Buddies to enjoy comes from ROY HOUGH, Sun field, Michigan 48890: 'I want to tell you the story of my 1924 International truck. We bought the truck twenty years ago and at the time it had a well rig on it. We junked the well rig, as it was constructed entirely of wood and was of no use. For the next several years we drove it around our yard without rack and unrestored. Five years ago in the fall, the bumble bees made a nest in the clutch housing. The next spring we started the truck and drove it around the yard as usual. But, the following spring, we were unable to push the clutch pedal in. Then decided it was time to restore the whole thing. Running it with the bee's nest in the clutch housing mixed the nest honey and the honeycomb all together and rusted the clutch plates so badly we had to make new ones out of stainless steel. This would solve the rust problem.
Next, we went to work on the cab, the cowl and doors. They are steel and only needed cleaning, but we had to completely rebuild the wooden part of the cab; also had to make a new seat and back rest. We made the rack and side racks out of seasoned oak all the metal fittings are stainless steel. The only work needed on the engine was a stuck valve. The old engine starts and runs like a clock.
Each year we run it in our Sun field Farmer's Picnic. In 1981 we were asked to run it in the parade at Grand Rapids, Michigan for the dedication of the Gerald R. Ford Museum. In 1982 we ran the truck in the Holland Tulip Parade, Holland, Michigan. Each Fourth of July we go to Cascade, Michigan where my daughter lives and we take the grandchildren and their friends and run it in their annual parade. Up until now the old truck has not missed a beat.
'It's me again, with a report on our show,' says JAMES DEKLE, 430 Colton Avenue, Thomasville, Georgia 31792. 'Yep, it's over!! I'm talking about the 2nd Annual Deep South Gas and Steam Engine Show held at the Deep South Fairgrounds, in Thomasville March 24th and 25th. By anyone's criteria, we have to deem this show, from the exhibitor's standpoint, a colossal success with 38 exhibitors showing 130 gas engines, three antique tractors and five steam engines.
To add frosting, there were two tables of very old hand-operated machines, two grist mills and a few antique automobiles. Several miniature gas and steam model engines rounded out the running displays.
Collectors were mostly from the southern states, with a few far away exhibitors as was M. L. Forbes from Marshalltown, Iowa. It was good to hear Mr. Forbes say, 'Thomasville was certainly worth the trip.'
The weather, though threatening, cooperated beautifully with only a light rain early Sunday morning. Our Sunday church service drew 30 worshippers and we were blessed with an excellent speaker, The Rev. Mike Evans from Deltona, Florida.
Our show is free to the public, no admission fee for viewing or parking, and a cordial invitation is issued for those who missed this year to mark their calendars.'
K. E. WOOLLEY, P.O. Box 1049, Laverne, Oklahoma 73848 would like to know the original colors of the 16-32 Leader tractor, wheels and body. Tractor was manufactured until 1920.
In the May-June issue of G.E.M. page 17, we printed a letter from DONALD L. SMITH who was asking for some information on a 5 HP Stickney #23717 engine. We inadvertedly left out Mr. Smith's full address. For anyone having any information, his address is R.R.I, Box 2784, Laurel, Montana 59044.
Lots of good letters in this issue so I won't take up much more of your time except to say Home is the place where we are treated best and grumble most isn't it great to go home??--Bye Bye Love Ya All Keep writ in' GEMuinely, Anna Mae