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Hi out there in Engine Land! By now you are working on your little gems for the upcoming season and if you have some spare time, please answer some of our fellows who are really in need of help.--And Happy New Year and may the Lord with Blessings shower Thee in the Holy year of 1973.-Onto the letters:-

'Pictured above is my old Garden Tractor I recently purchased and plan to restore. It is a Pioneer, single cylinder, vertical air-cooled, open push-rods and tappets, valves, etc. I would like some information on this machine, such as color scheme, type and shape of gas tank, year made, etc.'

This information comes from GARY J. OECHSNER, R. R. 1, Campbells-port, Wisconsin 53010 and he would like more information as you can read-Please see he gets some of his questions answered--perhaps all of them, eh?

HAROLD B. KINNEY, SR. Route 1, Woodsvield, Ohio writes us: 'I reside in South eastern Ohio and in an old oil field. We use Reid gas engines to pump oil wells. Many of these gas engines have been running here for 70 years. Could anyone furnish history or information of Joseph Reid and his factory in (formerly) Oil City, Pennsylvania?'

Any of you fellows have these type engines know anything that would help Harold--he'd be mighty pleased to hear from you.

GARY W. TIDWELL, 21 Chesslee Road, East Hartford, Connecticut 06108 writes: 'Having cultivated quite an interest in old engines, I have so far managed to accumulate an 8 HP I.H.C., 5 HP Witte and 2 (I think) 3 HP Novos. All are in good condition and I hope to have them running by summer. I derive a great amount of pleasure and satisfaction from working on these old 'Iron Monsters'.--Even if my wife does not approve! I would like to obtain any kind of information on my engines. Looking forward to hearing from you.'--There you are, owners of similar engines--drop Gary a line.

ED BURGESS, R. D. 1, Laceyville, Pennsylvania 18623 would like any information on a Jacobson gas engine, mostly what type of magneto it used. The serial plate reads 'Manufactured by Jacobson Manufacturing Co., Warren, Pa., Engine No. 7464, size 4 1/8 x 5, 2 HP.' This is a side shaft engine with upright flyball governor just inside of left hand flywheel.--So share information Fellows, please.

From ALBERT H. NIKKEL comes this encouraging bit, 'I have been receiving both GEM and IMA for a year now. I enjoy and read every word but most of all, Smoke Rings. I have been collecting old John Deere tractors and would like to hear from other collectors or just John Deere fans'.

Now, Albert has mentioned some other items in his letter that he just doesn't know where to find and wonders what other collectors do. I get many letters like this, Fellows asking where to get particular parts. I have already put these in the column, but I can no longer do this--only information. We have been accused of free advertising when this is done and this upsets some of our advertisers, which is understandable. My best suggestion to you fellows looking for parts is to advertise in our classified Want Ad section. You probably will receive help in this way.

A note from HAROLD M. DOUGLAS, 6400 HWY 25, R. R. 1, Milton, Ontario, Canada--'I was particularly interested in an article on page 7 of July-August issue 1972, by a Mr. Phil King of Granville, Massachusetts about the Deyo-Macey Engine Company of Binghampton, New York. I have a Deyo engine, 31/2 HP, Serial No. P205. I would appreciate receiving any information on this engine, especially the year of manufacture.'

AL HUFFMAN, R. R. 4, Box 575, Evergreen, Colorado 80439 is looking for any information on a Fairbanks Morse 11/2 HP, 500 RPM 'Z' engine.' It is the only engine he is interested in finding data on, so please help him, Guys!

Another friend seeking information is FRED CLEMONS, Route 8, Columbia City, Indiana 46725 who states: 'I have an Arco, Series No. 925, that I am restoring. This engine was on a sprayer built by the Hardie Mfg. Co., in Hudson, Michigan. Information from any source concerning the maker of this engine would be appreciated.'

Several questions come from HENRY L. DORRUM, 13750 Marion Road, Route 2, Chesaning, Michigan 48616 as he contacts us with the following:

'I wonder if your readers could help me on a couple of old engines I have. One is a 3 HP Peerless upright. It was made by The Peerless Motor Company, Lansing, Michigan. I would like to know what the original carburetor was on it (Was it a Schebler?). I would like to know the original color scheme and any other information would be helpful.

The other is a 2 HP Lansing No. W68452. I would like to know how the magneto is mounted (EK Wico Mag) and the trip mechanism, size of springs, etc.'

One of our members from up in the New England States writes Us: 'We enjoy GEM very much. The gas engine hobby is just starting around here. There have been three meets in New

Hampshire in the three years. Right now it looks like there will be state-wide N. H. meets on a spring and fall basis. The locations will vary for the spring meet, but the fall meet seems to be a sure bet for the center of Dublin, next to the famed Yankee Magazine headquarters.

An October meet was just held, and despite the wet conditions a great time was had by all and the bean hole beans with all the fixins were well served by the Dublin Fire Company.'

'We're happy to see the hobby is really spreading to some of the areas it has not been enjoyed before this time. Welcome to the Gas Engine Magazine family--hope you'll stay many years. The above letter was from JOHN W. DERBY, Sharon, New Hampshire 03458.

Another endeavor to restore an engine prompts this writing: 'We are starting to restore a small 32 volt Delco power plant. The engine is unusual in that the cylinder cooling fins are made of sheet copper formed into a corrugated tube and fastened to the cylinder. It has a fully automatic panel with four rusty relays on it. The panel is completely shot. I would like to make new relays, but do not know what each one should do'--(Anyone out there able to help Mr. Hufnal?--His address is E. T. HUFNAL, 208 Penn Road, Troy, Ohio 45373.

A question from H. LEWIS WALTON, Peach Bottom, Pennsylvania 17563 who writes: 'In your current issue, one of the authors mentions a Sattley gasoline engine. I am still using an old Sattley new mag corn planter. Could some of your readers tell if both machines were made by the same company? A little history of the manufacturer would be most appreciated.'

LAWRENCE F. ULRICH of Box 105, Spalding, Saskatchewan, Canada would like to see an article on hand fed threshers of the smaller kind, thought maybe it would help the winter hobbiests to make a model, etc.

A letter from ROLLIN PHILLIPS, 360 Elliott Avenue, Cincinnati, Ohio 45215 is hunting any data on a Reid 20 HP natural gas engine. Help-brothers of the Gas Hobby, please.

LARRY WERDEN, 282 Church Street, St. Mary, Ontario, Canada-Box 179 would like information on a 21/2 HP Empire, speed 500 rpm, No. 67144. It has the Empire Cream Separator Co. of Canada, Ltd. Montreal Toronto, Winnipeg stamped on it. He would like to know how to time this engine.

A commentary from ZANE L. RENDER, 6820 N. W. 27th Street, Bethany, Oklahoma 73008: 'Now for a few comments from me--for the past 5 years, I have wanted to start collecting and restoring '1 lung hit and miss engines'. About 7 months ago, I took the bit in my mouth, so to speak and started learning all I could about these. Finally, about 3 months ago I bought my first engine. It is a 11/2 HP Chore Boy. It is mostly here but gasoline tank and feed adjusting system is gone. I wonder what parts I lack. Could any of your readers tell me? I'd be much obliged!

There are very few engines in this part of country. Not too many were used and the scrap drive for W. W. 2 took care of most of those. There are several very large ones used in oil well work, but I prefer the small size 1 HP to 8 HP until I learn more of the operation of them.

In July of this year, I went to the Waukomis Steam Threshing Bee and thoroughly enjoyed myself. While there, they had a few copies of G. E. M. and I. M. A. I bought some of these and immediately subscribed to G. E. M. which I will say is the best magazine that I have had the opportunity to read. Keep up the good work! Photography is my Number 1 hobby so I really appreciate the photos. Thanking you in advance I remain 'Hooked on Hit & Miss Engines'.

What a nice letter and a shot in the arm towards our work--makes us feel good when we know we are making folks happy. And maybe you'll be be sending us some pictures one of these days, Zane--we'll be expecting some, since your hobby is photography also.

VICTOR J. LIPPI, 606 Cable Street, Van Wert, Ohio 45891 sends a nice writing and is also seeking info.--'I was wondering if any readers of the Gas Engine Magazine ever heard of or has a Spayd Bros, one cylinder, two flywheels, Horsepower unknown, old-time gasoline engine manufactured in my home town of Van Wert, Ohio about 1915 to?

I have many, many old time gas engines of different horsepower and makes, but none of these type and I'm interested in information on them. It will be greatly appreciated.

I enjoy the G. E. M. tremendously and I read it several times over, before laying it away for future information. I have wished many times that it were a monthly issue.'

A new subscriber writes us: 'I received my first copy of the Gas Engine Magazine last Saturday. I was surprised to see such a large section of classified ads. I didn't have any idea there is so much available.

I don't have an engine of my own, but have been helping my cousin and uncle restore a 6 HP Challenge. The plate shows it to be No. 3636. I know from a catalog that in 1929 the numbering was up to 20,000 and from the Batavia Historical Society that the company operated from 1867 to 1945. My uncle said the last time he can remember it having run was 1923, but he can remember it being in the family as far back as his memory goes. We would like to know if anyone can tell us the year of this engine.'

Lots of questions to be answered this issue, so man your pens, Men and write! That letter was from TOM CAMPBELL, Route 1, Box 115, Zion, Illinois 60099.

A friendly epistle from JACK B. KILE, SR., from Sistersville, West Virginia 26175 tells us: 'I really enjoy each issue of your magazine. I have loved old engines for years, but I didn't get real serious about collecting until a friend introduced me to your magazine about a year and a half ago. I have around 20 engines now, most of them running.

My oldest one is a 1909 Olds by Segar Type A 3, 41/2 HP. This engine was used in an oil field to pump crude oil from a tank in a valley to a large stack tank in another location, back in the 20s. Its use was discontinued prior to W. W. 2 and the wooden base the engine was mounted on rotted away and the thing rolled over an embankment and landed on its side and when I found it, the right flywheel and the air mixer was under the ground. To make a long story short and not to mention the work getting the valve cages out, loosing the valves, piston rings, etc. It ran approximately 15 hours at our first show in the Sistersville Oil & Gas Festival this fall, along with several other engines of my neighbor and fellow collector, J. E. Miller-- and a few of my best ones.

We built a large trailer and had 5 engines running in a parade the first day of the show and we received a beautiful trophy for our first efforts.

We hope to see some shows in our neighboring state of Ohio next summer as we are about seven miles from the Ohio River.'

I'm glad this column has become a happy medium of exchange of ideas for you gas engine men and your hobby.-- Many letters tell me you like it and that brings us joy to serve you in this capacity.

By the way some thoughts on hobbies--If you have it, it's a hobby; if your boss has it, it's an avocation.--The best thing about a hobby is that it gives you something to do while you're worrying.--Everyone should have a hobby of some kind even if it is only criticizing (there, must be better ones than that).--Hobbies are a great help in keeping people from becoming neurotic, but what about the people they live with?--(I'll bet you Ladies like that one--)

Hey Fellas--don't forget your Sweet-heart--Valentine's Day is coming up. A little remembrance now and then-die won't even fuss about your hobby.