Shingle Mill

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4892 York Road Leicester, New York 14481

I am a firm believer in trying to show our engines in action and doing something as they did when new -- whenever we show them at shows and reunions. I have a restored Ireland Drag Saw which I drive with an old Galloway and people appear to be very interested in watching it work.

It occurred to me that I needed a Shingle Mill to go along with the Drag Saw and then could perhaps put on an even more interesting show, so have been hunting for one for some time. Finally found a very old one with a wooden frame which matches the Ireland very well and now have a good start on rebuilding it.

My problem is that I can find nothing about it which tells the make and would be most interested in finding the name of this mill. Thought perhaps some of my fellow readers of GEM would be willing and able to help. Since things are apart I could not take a picture of the outfit but have included a sketch and description which I hope might do the job.

This Shingle Mill is made of very heavy timber framing and consists of three main stringers. The saw mounts near the middle stringer very similar to a regular sawmill. There are tracks on two stringers on which a carriage rides, again similar to a regular sawmill, as the carriage moves back and forth past the saw. The carriage is driven ahead by power and returns with a rope and weight. The block from which the shingles are cut lays down like the log on a sawmill. The drive of the carriage is by rack and pinion which engages and disengages as the carriage moves by the saw. On one corner of the rig the shingle edger is mounted and driven by a belt from the saw shaft. The edger is rather large and has four knives. The rig appears to be very old for the bearings on the saw mandrel have no cap other than a strap which holds the top babbit in place and most of the bolts and nuts used to assemble the frame appear to be handmade while the wooden frame around the edger is held together with wooden pins like barn framing. Mortise and tenon joints are used in the entire framework. Surely would like to know what make it might be. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

James would like to know if anyone can help him identify these two engines.

Here is the view from the flywheel side of the engine with the name IDEAL on the water hopper. The rest of the writing is: Fig. 138 Field Force Pump Co., Elmira, N.Y. As you can see, I need most of the governor mechanism.

Here is a view of the other side of the engine. I would like to know about this engine but no one in this area knows anything about it. When was it made? What was it made to operate? How was it cooled? If anyone has one of these engines I would be glad to hear from you.

1933 Hart-Parr 18-28 4 cylinder tractor running a sawmill on Setka Bros, Farm back in the 1930's.

Samson Model M Tractor in good running order. Owned by Setka Bros.

This has been a perfect year for me as a GEM and Iron Men Album reader.

We completed a trip from Pennsylvania to California and back by car and travel trailer and took in most of the scenic spots we could in a month's time.

This is also the day after the Kinzer Reunion and I am storing my engine till next year. I enjoyed talking to Dick Seibert, Mr. Green from New Jersey with his 1903 Olds and gas engine, and many more old friends.

It is fascinating here in the United States how one can fly over the Grand Canyon, Arizona, by helicopter and see jet planes, modern cars and six hours later be out in the desert where an old Delco power plant and Diesel power plant were furnishing power for water pumps and light. The next morning we were in an Indian Reservation and we saw an Indian woman with a truck filling barrels of water from a tank that was filled with water from these pumps.

I was amazed to see so many wind mills in operation pumping water for cattle -- also many old one cylinder engines pumping oil in Kansas.

Recently I purchased an old engine and two generators. The flywheels are 10' in diameter with crown for belt. It has a glass bowl carburetor, small brass gear fuel pump and a fly ball governor and a fan. Each is run by round leather belts from each flywheel.

The magneto on the back doesn't look original to me. It has a set of points to run on battery.

What is the make of the engine? How old is it? What were the Generators used for?

Pictured is my son, Donavan and a seat given to us by a scrap dealer. Would someone please tell me what Fuller and Johnson manufactured to use such a seat? As for me, I know they manufactured only engines and pump jacks.

The gas tractor is a Minneapolis gas tractor at Poll's Museum near Holland, Michigan.

The small engine is made of a five gallon ice cream can. Rear wheels are seeder wheels and front are baby buggy wheels.

I enjoy the G.E.M. very much and a few old style lawn mower engines.

Here are two pictures of a Seager Engine. I don't know if I have seen one of these in the magazine or not so I thought I would send to you. It is stamped Seager Engine Works, Lansing, Michigan, U.S.A. Type 3.A.

I also have a Hustler Engine, Hustler, La Crosse Implement Co., Minneapolis, Minnesota. It is 2? hp. Number 110368. Looks a lot like a Waterloo Engine. Did anyone ever hear of the kind before? They sure must have had their minds on designing engines years ago as there must be hundreds of different ones made years ago. Nowadays, all they have on their minds is to see how they can get hold of the 'almighty dollar.'

One of the many unusual and wonderful gas tractors at the 1969 Pion-Era.

K 20 Cletrac Crawler Tractor. This tractor has a steering wheel instead of levers to steer with; two speeds forward and one reverse