Smoke Rings

Battery, Spark Coil'

George F Kempher

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Hi! Is that a school bell I hear in the background?? And a school bus laboring up the hill? It's about that time again, isn't it? And just where did the summer go? The days go fleeting by, don't they? But you know, doesn't matter if they go fast or slow, if you're walking in God's will, each day is beautiful.

Shows continuing on into this month and next, and have you noticed how the interest is growing? We are hearing of more clubs and organizations all the time - it's a good hobby for the shows involve families and in my way of thinking, that in itself is terrific-and though I may never meet many of you folks that write - seems like we are so close in relationship, and many of you share your words of faith with me and I praise the Lord for this for I try to do all my work 'as unto the Lord', and receive many Blessings, such as your letters.

Well, I must get on with the communications from you wonderful people; and keep the articles and letters rolling in - also please don't forget to get your show dates to me as soon as possible for next year's Directory-I'll sure appreciate it!

MERL BARNES, 7013 Northview, Boise, Idaho 83704 writes: 'On page 20 of Mar-Apr. GEM, C. J. Neilson of Minot, North Dakota asks about a two cycle Detroit engine. I had a Detroit Marine two cycle vertical. It used a vibrator coil and battery ignition, a ball type Kingston carburetor and a timer that went either way past center. It had a brass water pump operated from an eccentric on the crankshaft. I had this engine running, but it had so much vibration that I could not use for show or any other purpose, so I sold it to a man who wanted an engine for decoration for his shop. It did run either way. One time when I started it, it rant he opposite way.' (Sounds interesting - like the engine had a mind of its own).

GEORGE F. KEMPHER, 110 Seventh Street, Emporium, Pennsylvania 15834 writes: 'In reply to Mr. Jack Newhouse's request for a wiring diagram for a Model T spark coil in the July-August GEM, I am enclosing one.

The battery polarity is not important on any type spark coil, neg. or pos. can be connected to either terminal unless a battery is being charged in the circuits.

I hope this will be of help to Mr. Newhouse or any other engine collectors who may use this type coil.'

H. L. RITTER, Route 5, Box 127, Fulton, New York 13069 comments: 'In answer to Jack Newhouse of Ft. Wayne, Indiana July-August GEM Model 'T' coil hook-up.

I would like to find out how to time an Associated magneto. Also, does an Ottawa have a check valve in gas line?

The only fault I have with G.EM, is they are too far apart.'

NORVAL O. MORGAREIDGE, 34 Fisher Lane, St. Helens, Oregon 97051: '1 am enclosing picture of an engine I found in a junk pile in Wyoming. It was in very bad condition, but now after many hours of work and quite a few dollars, it starts and runs very well. There was no name or mark of any kind on it. It is 3?' bore and about 5' stroke, air-cooled. The fins of steel run lengthwise on cylinder and the vanes bolted to flywheel spokes are supposed to pull cooling air through. I'm adding an 8' fan to help cooling.

The coil box, gas tank and muffler were installed - now no sign of what the original ones were like. Someone in the past has done quite a rebuilding job on it, as the timing gears and cam are Ford. The rocker arm is homemade. The Model T Ford carburetor fits so well, it must be original. Who made it, where, when, and may I add why??? It does have a protrusion on back end of the main base casting, just like a Fairbanks Morse has. Did F-M ever make an air-cooled like this?

I'm taking this engine and a 2? HP Ottawa, also from Wyoming, to the Brooks, Oregon Show.

I've been a GEM subscriber for almost a year now, in fact, ever since I found out about it.'

From the Limerick Corner, our writer WALT NIELAND, Route 2, Carroll, Iowa 51401 sends this bit: 'A country hick gazed at a mural - And didn't know if it was singular or plural You couldn't blame him - For he hadn't a whim - Cause his background was entirely rural.'

Another one just bit by the engine bug writes us: 'Just borrowed my first copy of GEM. Have enjoyed reading it very much. I am a relative newcomer to the hobby of restoring antique engines.

At the present time, I have one engine which is a 3 HP Fairbanks Morse, Model Z, Style C, which I found in a small town scrap yard. The engine has considerable damage due to scrap being dropped on it. None of the major castings are broken, but all external small parts are either missing or broken. I would appreciate any help you readers could give. I also would like to know what year this model was made. The serial number is 798852.

I would like to know if there are any antique engine clubs in the State of Mississippi. (Not that I know of -anybody out there know - let's hear from you if you know of any clubs gas or steam). This letter is from CHARLES H. STRONG, 3137 Eastland Drive, Pearl, Mississippi 39208.

RON WEINER, 4928 Oak Leaf Ave., Carmichael, California 95608 writes us: 'After reading my first two issues of GEM and the retrieval of an engine, the 'chugger's disease' is getting bad! The most serious sympton is the thirst for information. Once this engine is restored, the next and most grave symptom is where do I get another engine???? and so it goes

This engine is a Fairbanks Morse 'Z' with two flywheels 22' diameter, FM magneto #1080, is throttle governed and has the serial #516068 and a neat looking spark plug cover. The previous owner believes it is a 2? HP bought in 1927. This I would like to verify and get all the information I can.' (So get some information to him, Guys).

MILTON W. FOX, R.R.#1, Bicknell, Indiana 57512 sends this appreciative note: 'Thanks very much for the article 'HELP RESEARCH' in the Sept.-Oct. 1976 issue of G.E.M. I have quite a lot of information on tractors manufactured my International Harvester Co. It is a blessing to have so many people out there in GEM land that help out so much-a hearty thanks to them also.

It's beginning to be a big job just to file away this information - without losing some of it. I only wish that I had more time to put this together in book (or booklet) form.

If I can be of help to anyone on these tractors-it would be a pleasure for me to be of help. Again, thanks to you Anna Mae and to the many people out in GEM land.'

A call for help in identifying an engine comes from W. D. ROWLAND, 4940 Henry Cooper Road, Bucyrus, Ohio 44820: 'My son and I recently purchased a side shaft engine in New York State with no nameplate on it. We wonder if someone out there could tell us what make and what date it was manufactured.

The side shaft is on the opposite side from what other engines are. It is enclosed crankcase with brass connecting rod with counter weights bolted to crankshaft in crankcase. It has one flywheel and on the other side the crankcase extends out about 12 inches with a place on it for a crank. The engine has intake chamber on top of cylinder and exhaust chamber on bottom. The intake and exhaust valves are both operated with brass rocker arms. It is a governor throttle engine with timing assembly on end of side shaft, made of brass. A brass lever runs to top of engine to change the timing. Several fellows who have seen the engine think it is out of some single cylinder automobile.'

B. J. ADAMS, Wilmington, Vermont 05363 writes: 'My sons and I enjoy your magazine very much. We started collecting old engines only a couple of years ago. Between us and a close friend, we have 6 engines now. Ours are a 2 HP Stover, now running, a 5 HP Galloway, in process of restoration, and our latest is a 3 HP Model Z Fairbanks Morse with 32 volt generator which we rescued from a stone wall, garage and chicken house. The last two engines are minus the electrical systems. Any information would be much appreciated.

My brother has a rare 80 HP Superior diesel engine in his sawmill, like the one in the ad for Old Farm Days, out in Kewaskum, Wisconsin in August. His Superior was a converted marine engine and has been running since about 1924.'

SCOTT L. LAMONTAGNE, 38 Elliot Street, North Dartmouth, Massahusetts 02747 sends this along: 'I am writing to you to find out if any of your readers can help me. I have just acquired an International Harvester 1? HP gas engine C-1930. Many of its parts are missing. I am 16 years old and just starting out in this hobby. This area does not seem to have many people collecting these engines and though I've asked around I can't get any help. The builder's plate on the engine has the following information on it: McCormick-Deering Engine manufactured by International harvester Co., Chicago, U.S.A., gasoline, patents pending, horsepower 1? speed 500, number AW81627. Any help would be greatly appreciated.' (Here is another young enthusiast we're so happy to have the young ones coming into the hobby as that is where the hobby will eventually be - as they grow older. Isn't it wonderful to have a hobby that encompasses all ages? Please write him).

A 50 H.P. Fairbanks-Morse Semi-diesel running at the Bridgewater Vol. Fire Co. Steam and Gas Meet. This engine was power for the Mineral Milling Co. Mineral, Virginia, donated by Mark Eubank, Gordonsville, Virginia.

RALPH DONALDSON, 10275 Case Road, Brooklyn, Michigan 49230 writes in answer to a letter: 'In the July-August G.E.M. there was a request from Jack Newhouse as to how to hook up a Ford Model 'T' coil. This sketch should answer his questions. The Ford magneto produced alternating current so the battery polarity is not important.'

DARWIN P. RICHARDS, Circle K. Construction Corp., 1125 S.

Cedar Crest Blvd., Allentown, Pennsylvania 18103 needs some aid as he tells us: 'I am starting on the construction of a 24' sharpie Yawl whose lines and construction details will be taken from original plans in the U.S. National Museum. This style of boat was popular in the off shore and Great Lakes fisheries in the latter half of the 19th century and early 20th.

When gasoline engines became available they were used as auxiliary power or in many cases the rigging was cut down and the engine took over as primary power.

I would like to correspond with anyone who would be willing to aid me in my endeavor. Any information on these engines and the idea of incorporating one in my plans rather than purchasing a similar present day engine.'

CAREY K. ATTKISSON, Route 1, Rockville, Virginia 23146 sends this: 'I would like to submit the enclosed drawing showing the correct procedure for connecting a Model T coil to a storage battery. This is responding to Jack Newhouse's request.

I wonder if someone can tell me if a Hercules designed to run on kerosene, will perform properly on gasoline.

Your G.E.M. is so great that in fact a Gas Engine Widow lives here. '(Can't you get the Missus interested in the engine hobby too? That would be great!).'

HARVEY WATSON, 123 Harold Street, E. Brewton, Alabama 36426 says: 'I am a new subscriber and am looking forward to my first issue of G.E.M. I also have just purchased my first gas engine and I need some information about it. I would appreciate any help that anybody can give me. I need to know about what year it was made and in any other information about it. The nameplate reads (Goold Shapley & Muir Co., Brantford, Ontario, No. B 1012, 1? HP.)It has l6 inch flywheels and uses a Wico magneto. It is a hit and miss, water-cooled engine, bore 3?' stroke 5 inches.' (Help our newcomer, Fellas. We wouldn't want to discourage a new enthusiast).

JOHN E. MORRIS, 1341 S. 3rd, Union, Oregon 97883 relates: 'First off, I want to say how much I enjoy the G.E.M. The color picture on the July-August issue was a joy to behold. I would like to correspond with anyone who collects horse-drawn hay mowers and has information about the different mower and date of manufacture. (See ad in back).'

H. L. RITTER, Route 5, Box 127, Fulton, New York 13069 says: 'Hi Smoke Rings and Greasy Hands! At different times, I have asked for information about different things and have received several answers and I have answered some. It has made me many friends (I hope)! Now, I would also like to know how to tell if an igniter is working without removing it??? Also, does the Ottawa need a check valve between gas tank and carburetor to keep air from blowing back in tank?'

BOB BILDEN, Route 3, Box 153, Bagley, Minnesota 56621 tells us: 'I want you to know how much I appreciate the G.E.M. I have subscribed since its founding eleven years ago and really look forward to each issue. My interest in old tractors and gas engines goes back for more than 38 of my 43 years. Recently a number of other local enthusiasts and I organized the Lake Itasca Region Pioneer Farmers, Inc. and are looking forward to our second show this August. Our first show, highlighted by an old-time tractor pull, was so encouraging that we went ahead and formally organized and incorporated.

My son and I have a dozen gas engines, eleven old tractors and some other old machinery. I am restoring three tractors right now and need some information which I am hoping other readers can give. What was the shade of gray used by Minneapolis Moline on their Twin City tractors in the 1930s? Would like to know the color of lettering on the front, the color of the stripe under radiator and around the frame and the color of the radiator cap and ornament on early (circa 1936) Oliver Standard '70' and is there supposed to be any lettering or Oliver shield on the backs of the fenders of the same tractor? Finally, I would like to hear from anyone who has an Avery R-Trac tractor, circa 1938-1939- need to know shade of yellow and red used on these tractors.'

I think I should insert here -remember fellows, -so many of you write me to put things in Smoke Rings column - which I am happy to do - but I cannot print anything that can be bought - that must go in the classified ads!

RANDY LEWER, RR1, Box 34, New Richland, Minnesota 56072 has recently purchased a 39-57 tractor with the number 10651 below the radiator. He would like any information on this tractor as to how many were made, when, and the cost when new - anything - just get in touch with Randy.

ROBERT F. THOMPSON, 1225 Cranbrook Avenue, Torrance, California 90503 is anxious to receive information on a Stover Manufacturing & Engine Co. one cylidner gas engine- How about it Helpers?

We're always happy to hear from our younger members - here's one from WILL CUMMINGS, Bardwell Road, Castalia, Ohio 44824: 'Hello! Being only 19, I am one of the younger members of our hobby and I readers.

I have a Gray engine, serial number 1114. The nameplate is not stamped too clearly and I am not sure if it is a 13 or 18 horsepower. The bore and stroke is roughly 8 x 11, with 40' flywheels. It is a hit and miss engine. This engine spent many years under water and is in very poor condition. Most of the small parts are missing including the mixer, igniter, magneto, governor and other parts, (see ad section). Although quite a job, I would like to restore this engine. I need good pictures, or to see another engine like it. Did it have battery or magneto ignition? What is the insignia on the side of the hopper? I would also be interested in knowing any history of the company or when my engine was built.

Another of my projects is a 1918 Moline Model D #17831. This too, is a fair-sized project as the reverse cluster gear has the teeth stripped off it and I have not been able to find another. I would like to know where the original carburetor and air cleaner were. Mine is one of the earlier 4 cylinders and I believe it is different from the later ones. Also, I need detailed dimensions of the original battery box so I can build another. I believe it was spring mounted. I would appreciate hearing from anyone and I will try to answer all letters.