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C. H. Wendel, our Reflector, was guiding the trip to England for GEM subscribers this month, so I am stepping in to write this column. While I have a great deal of enthusiasm for gas engines and their collectors, I have virtually no technical knowledge on the subject, so please bear with me as I present the questions this month, rather than trying to answer them!

I spoke with Mr. Wendel just before this column went to press, and he reports that a jolly time was had by all on the trip to England. I'm sure we'll be hearing about the trip in future columns, and that we'll see photos of the many interesting collections the group visited. And now to the letters:

28/9/1 Sandwich Corn Sheller

Q. I recently acquired a disassembled single ear hand cranked corn Sheller. I was told that all of the pieces were in the box. h has a typical wooden frame, metal Sheller, hand crank and a flywheel. Letters on one bottom side panel say it was manufactured by Sandwich Mfg. Co., Sandwich, IL. The word 'NEW' was legible on one top side panel. I would appreciate information about how to reassemble this sheller, original paint color and lettering. Duane Walker, 1441 NW 39th, Topeka, KS 66618-1125.

28/9/2 Hicks Engine

During my tour of the San Francisco Waterfront, I took these pictures of a marine engine manufactured by Hicks Engine Co., of San Francisco. The engine is listed in the index of American Gas Engines, but not pictured. Donald R. Green, PO Box 618, Allyn, WA 98524-0618.

28/9/3 Unidentified Engine

This is an engine which I have restored, but cannot identify. The only number on this machine is '29.' Since I obtained this engine in North Dakota, there is a possibility it may have originated in Canada. If you can identify this engine, I would appreciate it very much. Bernard L. Swenson, 404 Boulder Dr., Carson City, NV 89706-0562.

28/9/4 Kohler plant

I need information on a Kohler Electric plant (4 cyl. model D 24631 110 volts D.C. 1500 watts 1000 rpm), pictures or service manual. Dean C. Barr, P.O. Box 186, Hiddenite, NC 28636.

28/9/5 Lauson Oil Test In the late '40s when I started working for a petroleum research lab, we operated several single cylinder water cooled Lauson engines called 'oil test engines.' They were used for screening tests to evaluate lubricating oil additives. After I returned, I came across one of these engines we had used and made a trade for it. While cleaning the engine, I removed the name plate, which was plainly marked 'Lauson Oil Test  Engine' plus the model and serial numbers.

Now I can't find the name plate, and I didn't write down the numbers. I have written to Tecumseh several times with a complete description, but they say, 'need more information.' Here is a description:

Lauson single cylinder, 'oil test engine,' four cycle upright. The engine is water-cooled, with water condenser: row water flows through the condenser coil to cool the water jacket. Bore 25/8' x stroke 2 3/8'. Flywheel is 9 inches diameter, 23/8' face. There is an electric heater in the base (110 VAC) to heat the oil sump; height is 26 inches from bottom of base to top of condenser. Photos are minus a carburetor and water level sight glass in condenser. I need to know model number, seek maintenance, instructions or other literature and parts especially the carburetor. Would really appreciate any help. Jack W. Stone, 79 Sparks Ave., Pennsville, NJ 08070.

28/9/6 Fairfield Engine

Mason Sickel wrote us a letter some time ago about a Fairfield engine his grandfather, Pete, had purchased. Mason received a reply from an Australian enthusiast who thinks he has the only Fairfield in his country. He needs a carburetor and manifold to get his Fairfield running, and would like to hear from anyone who can help: Garry Williams, No. 5 Wenolebury Rd., Chipping Norton NSW, Australia 2710.

28/9/7 Domestic

Q. I have a 4 HP Domestic engine, serial no. X29538. Also there is a brass tag with Empire Gas & Fuel Co., Register, 4-76-215 on it. I would like to find the date that the engine was built. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Gary Shonk, 9709 Sarracenia Rd., Pascagoula, MS 39581.

28/9/8 Delco Light Plant

Q. I have a Delco 850 watt, 32 volt Light Plant. I need information on it. Anyone have manuals? Charles Horak, 3556 Cleveland St., NE, Minneapolis, MN 55418-1535.

28/9/9 Empire Cream

Q. I recently purchased the engine pictured which has left me with questions nobody seems to be able to answer. Maybe you can. The tag reads as follows:


I would venture to guess it was built by Alamo, but I have no idea when. The man I bought it from says somewhere in the early teens. It is painted the classic Alamo blue and it looks like an early Alamo hopper but there are a few differences: 1) the engine has a Wizard type 61 magneto 2) it has a three ball fly ball type governor. This engine has a 6' bore and a 12' stroke, 40' flywheels and a brass fuel pump. She runs like a new baby except for a fuel problem which is probably minor in nature. Would you agree that the paint color is correct? and what would you believe the mfg. date to be? Also what kind of cream separator would use a 10 HP engine? Lawrence Dudek, 288 Geer Rd., Jewett City, CT 06351.

A. Unfortunately for Mr. Dudek, I can't answer his questions. However, I'm sure there are other readers who may be able to help, and I encourage them to!

28/9/10 Palmer Marine Q. This engine has a name plate that reads Palmer Bros. Cos Cob Connecticut patented Aug 20 1901. All ignition parts are missing, and a piston from an old Chef has been substituted. The bore is 3' with a 4' stroke. It is pictured in the yellow book page 378 top left page. Any light you can shed will be greatly appreciated. Marvin Bourgeau, 520 Hillcrest St., Coquitlam, B.C. Canada U35 6N5.

A. I know that we have some marine engine collectors who will know more about your engine, and I hope they will write into the Readers Write section.

28/9/11 Fairway 12 Update

Duane Hildebrand of RR2 Box 453, Drums, PA 18222-9568 writes to alert us that he is currently updating the McCormick Deering/International Fairway 12 register and would appreciate having owners of these tractors notify him if they have not already registered. Duane was kind enough to send along a copy of his registry, which now includes 30 tractors.

28/9/12 Massey Harris

Q. I recently purchased a Massey-Harris 3 HP model R 20 engine #77908. I would like to know the proper color for this engine. There are traces of dark green paint on it, so it must have been painted the same color as a Cushman Cub. I would also like to know when it was made. Douglas MacKechnie, PO Box 683, Moravia, NY 13118.

A. I don't think we have a file on color matches or serial numbers for Massey-Harris engines, so maybe someone out there can fill in the gaps for Douglas.

28/9/13 Witte Engine

Q. I recently acquired a Witte gas engine s/n 34525. I would like to know when the engine was sold and to whom, plus any other info you could give me. The engine has a cross cut saw attachment on it, did Witte make the saw also? Kelly Birkey, 15 Allison Dr., Paxton, IL 60957.

A. Can anyone help out on this one? I think the answer to the cross cut saw attachment is yes, they did make them, or at least sold them with their engines. Mr. Wendel has records on Witte, and I will see that he gets your letter so he can advise you of the date of the engine.

28/9/14 Mystery Tool

Q. See photo of a piece of equipment made to bolt to a table I don't know what it is. I also have a Kelley Duplex Mill No. 50. I would like to know the year it was built it is a small machine and was made in Springfield, Ohio. Wilbur Arlington, 255 E. Perrin Ave., McComb, OH 45858.

A. I certainly can't answer this one, and would advise you to consult your local experts on antique tools. However, maybe one of our readers can shed light here for you.

28/9/15 John Deere Tractor

Q. Could this 1935 B s/n 3074 have been shipped from the factory with these F & H adjustable front wheels? Also, did it have a temperature gauge and if so where was it located? Marc Comes, PO Box 9371, Bend, OR 97708.

A. Well, I can't tell you whether your wheels are original, but I do know there are thousands of John Deere tractor collectors who read this magazine, so hopefully some of them will write to you.

28/9/16 Rotary Crusher

Q. I have a rotary crusher, but I have no idea what it crushes'. The brass name plate reads: Rotary Fine Crusher No. 840 Mfg. by Sturtevant Mill Co., Boston, Mass. U.S.A. Pat. Date May 10, 1904 to Sept. 19, 1916. I don't want to wreck it with rocks if it's supposed to crush coal or gold ore, whatever. It is quite husky, cone center, flat belt pulley to turn pinion. Any help would be appreciated.

A. Unlike a John Deere tractor, crushers are not so widely collected! Possibly one of our readers can help with this one. Another suggestion is to check to see whether Sturtevant Mill Co., or a successor is still in business in Boston. Often the local historical society, or reference desk of the public library, can assist with this research.

28/9/17 Gray Marine

Q. I recently purchased a Gray Marine Motor Co. engine model 1-5 No. 4192. Any information as to parts, literature, etc. would be appreciated. John Heasley, 190 Paragon, Troy, MI 48098.

A. I called upon our marine engine collectors earlier in the column, and need them here again. Hope you can help Mr. Heasley.

28/9/18 Air Compressor

Q. We recently inherited the last mortal remains of an old air compressor (see accompanying photos). It is a V-Twin with high and low pressure cylinders. The high pressure cylinder head has no. 375 38W Joy cast into it. Is it a Joy compressor? Are they still in business? The engine is a 4-cylinder BUD A, model 4B182. Any information will be appreciated. Herbert E. Mann, 2588 W 250 S, Warsaw, IN 46580.

A. Here's another question I am completely unable to answer, and must rely upon the keen eyes of our subscribers for assistance.

28/9/19 Hay Press

Q. I have just bought an old hay press. It is just like the one on page 324 of your Encyclopedia of American Farm Tractors. I would like to know what colors it was painted and if you would know what years they were made. It is an Eli Belt Power Baling Press manufactured by Collins Plow Company. Orlen Helgerson, 4376 Lane 49, Aurora, MN 55705.

A. Any ideas from anyone?