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Mr. Ken Robison, 20531 Black Road, Los Gatos, CA 95030 sends along the safety guidelines used by Branch 3 of EDGE&TA. This goes out to all the members, and likewise is distributed to every exhibitor at their shows. Briefly, the Branch 3 Safety Guidelines include the following requirements:

Double rope stanchions separating engines from the public by a minimum of four feet.

Fire extinguisher at hand, but not near flammables.

Running engines shall not be left unattended.

Person attending engines must be in control at all times.

At least three feet clear space between individual engines.

No consumption of alcohol while inside any roped-off area or while operating equipment.

The following rules are desired:

Clutter-free, attractive exhibit space.

Exhaust directed up or away from viewing public.

Watchful eyes and constant awareness.

Belts parallel to viewing public.

First Aid kit.

We can't see any reason for anyone to complain about the above rules- in our opinion, they make the message as simply and succinctly as possible. As we have said before, don't burden your exhibitors with a lot of jargon and superfluous things-and if there is a problem, be diplomatic but firm in explaining why these rules are needed, i.e., insurance, the safety of the public, and the exhibitor's own personal safety. The way things are going with insurance, a few accidents, and a few damage claims, and eventually, it will cost a king's ransom to carry liability insurance for a show! That will hurt all of us who enjoy old iron, and that hurts the hobby.

Our first question this month is:

24/9/1 Banner engine Q. I recently purchased a 1? HP Banner engine made at Lansing, Michigan. It is Type W, s/n 5006. American Gas Engines lists this engine in the index, and on page 10 the Acme engine, also built at Lansing, is illustrated. The magneto bracket 303K21 is not listed in the December, 1986 GEM listing of Webster magneto brackets. The engine was originally a deep dark maroon. Is there a connection between the Banner and Acme engines! I would like to hear from other Acme/Banner owners. F. L. Roof, Jr., 13188 SR68 South, Kenton, OH 43326.

A. Although a connection between these two companies is entirely possible, we have seen nothing to substantiate this. Has anyone tried to research this matter?

24/9/2 Massey-Harris Pony Q. My son and I are attempting our first tractor restoration, a Massey-Harris Pony, s/n PGA19605, engine no. N62E37924. Any information will be appreciated, including any manuals, proper color scheme, etc. Luke LeClere, PO Box 1437, Ojai, CA 93023.

A. Our files have little specific data on the M-H Pony, but we know that this is a very popular and rather scarce little tractor. We urge other Pony owners to give these folks an assist.

24/9/3 Unknown engine Q. See the two views from an old instruction manual. The book does not include the name of the engine, or location of the factory, so I would like to know who built this particular engine. Woody Sins, 115C Audino La., Rochester, NY 14624.

A. We can't give you an offhand identification for this one, but the practice of one book sufficing for the same engine wearing several different hats was a common one. Many of the Hercules and Economy books are the same, with no identifying name, as are some of those from Alamo-the latter being sold under several different trade names.

24/9/4 Tiger garden tractor Q. We have two Tiger garden tractors, Model 883, from 1954 and 1955. They were built in Keyser, West Virginia. We have never seen anything on these small tractors in GEM and would be happy to hear from anyone who might have information or history regarding these tractors or the company. Philip Bucher, 11 Harbor Heights Drive, Centerport, NY 11721.

24/9/5 Unidentified tractor See the below photos illustrating a tractor we recently purchased. The seller said it was a Co-op, but there is no serial plate or name on it. Any information on this tractor will be appreciated. Rocky Fowler, 5537 Tap Road 112, Tiffin, OH 44883.

24/9/6 Graham-Paige Rototillers Q. I'm a fairly new collector with a special interest in walking tractors, especially the Graham-Paige Rototiller. I recently acquired one of these with a sickle mower attachment which needs work. The factory was no help on the mower, so I was wondering whether any readers might have any information on it. 1 am also looking for any information on Standard Twin garden tractors and attachments. Is there still a parts supplier for the Standard Twin? Scott Carlsen, 229 Water Street, Cambridge, WI 53523.

24/9/7 David Bradley garden tractor Harry Bonnema, RR 4, Box 226, LeMars, IA 51031 would like to know the correct paint color for the David Bradley garden tractor, Model 9175 1575, also the mint green for the wheels. Any help will be appreciated.

24/9/8 Unidentified engine Q. See photos 8A and 8B of an engine we have been unable to identify. There are no identification marks on it, except that we know it came off a Coldwell lawn mower. The engine is dark green and has a 3 ? inch bore. Any information will be appreciated. Howard B. Lineberry, 95 Lee Street, Middletown, CT 06457.

24/9/9 McCormick reaper model Q. See the below photos illustrating a model of the McCormick reaper. How many of these were built, and what is their possible value? Lacey Goldman, Box 664, Webb, MS 38966.

A. We believe these were built for the Centennial of the reaper in 1931. We have no specific information about this, but we have been told that these were either bought by or given to IHC dealers at the time of the Centennial. How many more were built beyond this, we do not know, neither would we be able to attach a value.

24/9/10 Model Hay Balers Q. Lately I have seen several model hay balers in GEM and at shows, and was wondering where people get them. Is anyone making them like model engines-castings, etc.? Gregory Camp, Box 386, Randolph, VT 05061.

A. We know of several people who have built model balers, and they have fabricated them in the shop. One man who built a model baler told us that he gave serious thought to providing a model kit, but after getting some legal counsel, decided against it due to the potential for all kinds of nasty legal problems. In other words, if someone was to build these for sale to another person, and the buyer, even through his own stupidity stuck his finger into the bale chamber for alterations, the odds are pretty good that the poor guy who sold the model, ostensibly for people to enjoy would end up being the goat and broke!

24/9/11 Serial numbers Q. What is the year built for a Fairbanks-Morse ZC engine, s/n 772236, and a Lauson, A91382? Raymond P. Cain, Box 40, Pleasanton, KS 66075.

A. The FBM engine is 1933, but we have no data on Lauson.

24/9/12 Paint colors Q. Can anyone supply the proper colors for a Lindsay-Alamo and a Flying Dutchman from Moline Plow Co. ? Pete Peterson, 1025 Kouns Lane, Edwardsville, KS 66111.

A. We once restored a Flying Dutchman and used Dupont 55913H Fanfare Maroon. The decal was repainted by hand. Not certain of the blue shade for Lindsay-Alamo.

24/9/13 Fairfield engine Q. What is the correct color of the Fair-field engine made at Fairfield, Iowa? Bud Zimmerman, 250 Loudville Road, Easthampton, MA 01027?

A. We believe they were painted black, and so far as we know, had no pinstriping.

24/9/14 Empire cream separator Q. What is the year and proper color for an Empire Cream Separator Co. engine, 2 ? HP, s/n 64383? Also year and color for an Alamo, s/n 102799? Roger Boise, RD 1, Box 12, New Haven, VT 05472.

A. We don't know of any serial number information on the above engines, and we are not definitely sure on the color scheme for them.