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28/5/9 Good Roads Crusher Q. See the Good Roads Jaw Crusher and Screening Unit in the photos. I would appreciate any information on the company, originally located at Kennett Square, Pennsylvania. Also, I would like to find any information, sketches, or anything that would be of help in restoring this unit.Gary Tetz, Crystal Run Road, Middletown, NY 10940.

A. Yours is an ambitious project! However, we would guess that there are very few small jaw crushers left, complete with the original screening plant. So regardless of the present condition of this unit, we would think it to be a worthwhile restoration. However, we've never accumulated any information on the Good Roads Machinery Company, even though this firm was well known in its field. Have any of our readers acquired any material that might be of help?

28/5/10 American Boy Engine Q. Last October I bought a 5 HP American Boy engine. It was originally sold by Colbert Machinery Co., St. Joseph, Missouri. Can anyone tell me the correct color for this engine? I would also like to hear from anyone with one of these engines, who could give me the correct dimensions for the gas tank. Any help will be appreciated.W. Dale Rice, PO Box 94, Opolis, KS 66760.

A. We referred to the American Boy engines on page 102 of American Gas Engines, but since that time we have found no further information regarding this company.

28/5/11 John Lauson Engine Q. I'm restoring a 2 HP Lauson engine by the John Lauson Mfg. Company. Can anyone tell me the correct paint color; was it the same color as the DeLaval?L. Allomong, 54 N. Locust Ave., Agoura, CA 91301.

A. We have DuPont 24166 Brewster Green listed for the Alpha engines made by Lauson for DeLaval. However, no one has sent us the correct color for the Lauson. Could someone let us, and Mr. Allomong, in oh this information?

28/5/12 Casey Jones Q. See the photos of a 4 HP Casey Jones engine made by Northwestern Motor Company at Eau Claire, Wisconsin. We need information on proper lubrication, the ignition system, and the proper colors. Thanks from a couple of new collectors!Lee Baldwin, 355 Buena Vista Ave., Arnold, MD 21012.

A. These well known railway handcar engines are now rather uncommon. We've seen them from time to time, but must confess that we didn't take much notice of them, nor do we have a whole lot of information . . . essentially what we have is capsulized on page 349 of American Gas Engines.

28/5/13 Witte Engine Q. Can you help me in regard to a Witte 1 HP engine, s/n B44301 ? I would like to know the year, color, and how rare it is? Kenneth Mosely, Box 123, Great Bend, NY 13643.

A. Your engine was originally sold to Pasquale Liberato, Route 1, Freedom, Pennsylvania, on June 15, 1927. Witte Engines recommended mixing 1 pint of Rustoleum black and 2 pints of their Forest Green for the gas engines. This comes close to PPG 40952 Forest Green. Thousands of these engines were built . . . they are not generally considered to be among the 'rare' engines.

28/5/14 Cushman Model C Q. I would like information on a Cushman Model C engine, s/n 36558: 1) Year built; 2) Correct color; 3) Was it equipped with a magneto?; 4) Is the float available for the carburetor?; 5) Any source of information on this motor. Greg Pfaff, Rt 2, Box 2207, Ste. Genevieve, MO 63670.

A. There are no records to date the Cushman engines. The color generally used is similar to DuPont 93-62713-H Green. If a magneto was used, it was an option, and generally the Dixie magneto was installed. A new cork float may be available from some of the GEM advertisers, and additional printed information may also be available from advertisers, but we don't know from which ones, specifically.

28/5/15 Fuller & Johnson Question Q. I have a Fuller & Johnson, 1 HP s/n 85906. What year is this engine? My second question is whether it was at all common for the F & J engines to have a Split-dorf magneto installed? Ron Martin, PO Box 621, 409 Easter Ave., Weaverville, CA 96093.

A. Questions regarding F & J engines should be directed to Verne W. Kind-schi, S 9008B US Hwy 12, Prairie du Sac, WI 53578. As with any other query, we again remind our readers that if you seriously expect a response, please enclose a stamped and self-addressed envelope! Ye olde Reflector can relate to this subject. In 1992, we had a total postage bill of over $1,600! We kept track of how many 29-cent stamps we bought last year, and it came to about a third of our total postage cost, or nearly $500! So that 29 cents doesn't sound like much, but it really adds up. So to all our readers, again we say, if you expect an answer, send along an SASE!

28/5/16 Experimental Compressor Q. Can anyone suggest a source for a reciprocating expansion engine, or plans to build one, say 15 to 50 HP, that I can use for experimenting with the efficient use of compressed air? Scott Robertson, Pneumatic Options, 6333 Pacific Ave., Suite 371, Stockton, CA 95207.

28/5/17 Villiers Information Q. See the two photos of a Villiers engine. The nameplate reads: The Villiers Engineering Co. Ltd., Wolverhampton, England; No. 185A 6710D; Mark 12. What year was it built? Any information on this engine and also if any parts are available, please let me know. I also need Planet Jr. decals. Dan Eichbrecht, 2260Lk. George, Metamora, MI 48455.

28/5/18 Sheppard Tractors & EnginesThanks to Mr. Lynn Klingamann, 6775 N. Etna Ral, Columbia City, IN 46725 for sending along extensive information about substitute repair parts for the Sheppard engines. Lynn also tells us that the modern replacement for the Sheppard color is Sherwin-Williams Acrylic F79XLE0240 - 1974 or L61EQ3 Orange. If you need Sheppard information, perhaps you might contact this person. As we said previously, at the least, include an SASE, and if you want photocopies, there will likely be a nominal charge. Lynn has quite a collection of Sheppard tractors. As a youngster, ye olde Reflector well remembers seeing those Sheppard ads in the farm papers, but here in east central Iowa, we never saw one in the field, although there may have been a few.

28/5/19 IHC Information Q. Could anyone please tell me the color scheme for the No. 90 mounted plow as used on the F-12 and F-14?

I also have a tool box measuring 9 x 21 x 3 inches with an oil can holder. It has the old IHC logo on top. What could this be off of? Thomas Jay Hoffman, 325 Alicia Drive, Cory, IL 60013.

A. Can anyone be of help here?

28/5/20 Gifford Engine Q. I have a 1 HP Gifford engine as shown on page 206 of American Gas Engines. It is very similar to the Deyo engine. I need to know the original colors, and would like to talk to anyone who has either a Gifford or a Deyo 1 HP. I also need the colors for the Fairbanks-Morse 1 HP engine w/dishpan flywheels. Any information will be appreciated. Robert O. Smith Ill, 206 Chestnut St., Statington, PA 18080.

A. Can anyone be of help on the Gifford? See above in this column, regarding the Fairbanks model in question.

28/5/21 Cushman & Associated Questions Q. I have a Cushman open crankcase, 2 HP engine, Type WH, Model 25, s/n 1340. Where does it fit into the Cushman line? Also, the HP Associated air-cooled went down in history as a complete dud. What were its problems? Andy Gortsema, Box 223, Fairfield, WA 99012.

A. In response, our first question is; does your engine resemble the one pictured oh page 115 of American Gas Engines? If so, then that puts it among the very early production of the Cushman line. In fact, your s/n of 1340 puts it right at the head of the class. By 1908 Cushman had introduced what would be their mainstay for many years, the vertical, single-cylinder design.

Regarding the Associated air-cooled model, it had a lot of problems, one of which was that the company was probably in too big a hurry to put it on the market before some thorough testing. The magneto left a lot to be desired, and the carburetor was nothing to write home about. Given these two major difficulties, failure was assured. We once had a conversation with an old Associated man who told us that, 'Those damned engines came back faster than they went out . . . we had a whole pile of the damned things out back until the scrap drives started for World War Two, and finally we got rid of 'em!'

Associated had notions of marketing an engine that would be good competition for the Maytag, and indeed, this one was intended for washing machines, and similar duties. With no chauvinism intended, die hausfrau could become notoriously cranky when the engine wouldn't start on washday. In this respect, the competing Maytag was the superior, even though it possessed a bit of infernal cussedness at times. Part of the problem was in putting the washing machine out in the summer kitchen or wash house with no heat whatever. Come washday, it was assumed that the engine should start right off, even though it was virtually a solid block of ice. Dragging the washing machine into the kitchen for a warm up solved most of the problems. One old-timer related to us that he worked for a Maytag dealer as a young man. The engine-powered washers were at their epitome. Especially on cold days, the phone began ringing early with a desperate call into the Maytag repairman! The poor little Associated didn't have the benefit of an extensive service network, and when it got balky, it was up to the man-of-the-house to get it going.

28/5/22 On Making RulesIn regards to the suggestion that unleaded fuel should be used for old gas engines and tractors, I would just like to point out that good honest intentions could easily become bad law.

Collecting and displaying old machinery is, for the most part, just a hobby. One of the best things about this hobby is that it is enjoyed by just practical people with a lot of good sense. Members who participate at the shows are extremely careful arid insist on safety to protect both themselves and the viewing public.

Making rules that will bring in authorities [who] are more than willing to enforce nitpicking regulations will take away the very pleasure of why people are involved in this hobby in the first place.

I appreciate your not taking a stand on this issue and only hope that this one hobby can resist interference and remain as it is. David Milholland, 1578 Yokeko Drive, Anacortes, WA 98221.

28/5/23 Novo Questions Q. See the photos of my Novo Model AG engine, s/n 38810. It has a 2.75 x 3.0 inch bore and stroke, uses a Zenith carburetor, and has a 2:1 reduction on the rear shaft. Paint traces appear to show it was painted a medium olive green similar to New Way green.

The only information I could find on this engine was an article in the November-December 1983 issue of GEM, page 20. It states that these engines were made to replace the Type S engines on the farm and the 'AG' stood for Agricultural Engine. The article also states that it was manufactured 'beginning in 1931 and discontinued only in 19.'

My main questions are: Is this a common Novo? How long was it made? Is there Novo serial number data? Did Novo use a different shade of green in later years? It would be nice to hear from anyone with information on this model. Gregg Flatt, Box 37, Allenspark, CO 80510.

A. Some of your questions require access to information we do not have, and indeed, much of it, including the serial number data, is probably long gone. A surprising amount of information still exists regarding many of our vintage engines and tractors, but the sad fact is that much of it is irretrievably gone. Thus, anyone researching a company often is required to piece together the available information, and from it, clear judgements can often be made. Beyond this, it's often possible to make a subjective assessment, based on the available information. GEM has a unique role in that this column is intended to serve as a clearinghouse for the exchange of information. Quite possibly, some of our readers might be able to provide you with further answers.

28/5/24 IHC Titan 15-30 Q. I am a collector of steam engines and old agricultural tractors. I am a member of a group of friends called GAMAE that has recently started, with a lot of enthusiasm, to organize exhibitions of their machines.

I live in Bologna, Italy and have recently bought an old International 15-30 Titan, that is very uncommon in Italy. I want to restore it, but some parts are missing and I am not able to find them. I would appreciate hearing from anyone having one of these tractors. Franco Risi, Via Biancolina No. 4, 40017 S. Giovanni In Persiceto, Bologna, Italy.

A. If anyone can be of help, kindly do so. Mr. Risi also sent along a catalog of their 1992 show held at Bologna on November 4-8. Along with numerous European tractors, we note a Heider-Rock Island, Rumely OilPull, Minneapolis cross motor, and others.

28/5/25 Engines & Printing PressesMr. Edward L. Swanson, 2431 Dora Pines Rd., Mt. Dora, FL 32757, sends along some photocopies regarding a gas engine and a printing press: On April 17, 1924, the Pendleton County Times at Franklin, West Virginia, was running as usual. However, the gasoline engine running the press exploded. It set the building afire, and before it was all over the entire business section of Franklin was in ashes. The fire raged through four blocks of the town. Perhaps we have additional readers who recall this great fire that was started by a gas engine.

28/5/26 Sears Tractor Q. See the photos of a tractor with several i.d. plates. On the differential is a plate with Model No. 917 5154 and s/n 1108. It includes instructions for servicing the gearbox, and the operator is directed to contact Sears, Roebuck &Co. with parts requests. The engine carries a Sears nameplate, and is identified as Model No. 500 304183, Series 18066, and rated at 5 HP.

It appears to be similar to a unit from Shaw Mfg. Company, Model HY8. The rear tires of my tractor are 6.00 x 22.

As I am restoring this tractor, I would appreciate further information about the original colors, original components, and the like. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Robert G. Moffett, 338 West Broad Street, Quakertown, PA 18951.

A. Can anyone be of help?

28/5/27 Empire Engine Q. I have an Empire engine from Empire Cream Separator Co. of Canada Ltd. It is 7 HP, and the 7 HP Alamo Blue Line appears to be identical. My questions: In relationship to top dead center, at what degree should the exhaust valve start to open and at what degree should, it be completely closed? Can anyone supply me with the physical dimensions of the throttle control? What clearance should there be on the crank main bearings and the connecting rod bearing? What is the correct color? What is the proper setting of the kerosene and water needle valves? Wm. A. Marson, RR 1, Beeton, ONT LOG IAO Canada.

A. The exhaust valve should start to open just slightly before the end of the power stroke. It will then not close completely until just a few degrees into the intake stroke. If the valve timing has been disturbed, the best that can be done is to balance these two so that the engine runs as it should. Initially you may find that you are a tooth or two ahead or back of where you should be. Of course, if there are any marked teeth, the manufacturer already has taken care of the problem.

Especially on larger engines, we've always started setting up bearings by unhooking the con rod and working out the mains. It's essentially a trial-and-error process that continues for each bearing until there is the slightest amount of drag. Once the mains are done, set up the con rod bearing the same way. Run the engine a little while and see if the bearings run warm. If they are comfortable to the hand, they're probably alright. Loose bearings, especially the connecting rod, pound themselves to death. Even very large con rod bearings, say of 8 or 9 inch diameter are usually fitted up for only 4 to 6 thousandths of clearance. We have it that the proper color is GM Corporate Blue for the Empire. So far as the needle settings are concerned, do as follows: After getting the engine up on gasoline, and sufficiently warmed up, switch over to kerosene. Set the kero needle for smooth running, and leave the water needle closed. If the engine starts to knock or preignite under load, open the water needle just enough to get rid of the knock. That's the only purpose for the water. Too much water will destroy the lubrication and induce premature cutting and wear of the rings and cylinder walls. (Mr. Marson also asked several technical questions regarding the 7 HP Empire (Alamo). If anyone has one of these engines, please get in contact with Mr. Marson, as he needs to know about the piping schematic, etc.)

28/5/28 Onan InformationVincent Durham, Site 8, Comp 34, RR 1, Sicamous, BC VOE 2V0 Canada reports that he has good success in securing Onan information from Onan Corporation, 1400 - 73rd Avenue NE, Fridley, MN 55432.

28/5/29Andrew Mackey, 26 Mott Place, Rockaway Boro, NJ 07866 writes, concerning an engine/generator from United States Motors Co., Oshkosh, Wisconsin:

I have a 110 volt generator that is in working order, but the radiator and sheet metal leave much to be desired. The ID plate reads: s/n 439299, Date 1943, Model B x 2435, 2.5 kw, 115 volts, 22 amps, 60 cycles, single phase, 1800 rpm. The generator is by Kurz & Root, Appleton, Wisconsin, and is 2.5 kw.

Did U.S. Motors actually build the engine? Does anyone have any history on this company? Are they still in busi-ness, perhaps under another name? Has anyone heard of Kurz & Root, or is any history available on the company? Any information on this unit would be greatly appreciated and would be forwarded to GEM in a future article.

The unit is painted in the military drab green with the electric panel in flat black.

Many thanks to the people who respond!

28/5/30 Miniature Train Engine Q. Does anyone have knowledge of, or a manual for a Wisconsin Type AKS engine, 27/8 x 2 inch bore and stroke, s/n 1216777? Any help will be appreciated. Bert Meyer, PO Box 441, Dayton, NV 89403.

Readers Write

28/2/2 Fuel Pump DiaphragmsDid we ever get mail on this one!' Most of it pointed in the same directions as we indicated last month. Another source we have located is Utex Industries Inc., Box 79227, Houston, TX 77079.

28/3/5 Hedstrom MotorNumerous letters came in regarding the Hedstrom motor, and we find that it was used in the Indian motorcycle. Of course, we thank everyone who responded, but we tender a special thanks to Gerald B. Lombard, 5120 Belcrest Ave., Bakersfield, CA 93309-4705. He writes in part:

Carl Oscar Hedstrom (1871-1960) bicycle builder and journeyman machinist 1892. Builder of custom racing bicycles. Modified and installed DeDion (French) type engine in racing tandem 1899-1900. Designed motor bicycle for George M. Hendee, first prototype demonstrated in 1901.

George M. Hendee (1866,1943) Amateur bicycle racer, Amateur High Wheel Champion of the United States 1886-1892. Competed on safety bicycles until retiring from the sport in 1895. Married in 1894, separated in 1895. Started bicycle manufacturing business in Springfield, Massachusetts in summer of 1898. Promoted bicycle races.

In 1901 Hendee and Hedstrom formed the Hendee Mfg. Co. as a partnership, Hendee as President and General Manager, Hedstrom as Chief Engineer and Designer. The products carried the tradename of Indian.

The Hendee Mfg. Co. existed from 1901 to 1923. In 1923 the firm was reorganized as the Indian Motorcycle Co.

A lot of information is contained in The Iron Redskin by Harry V. Sucher, and distributed by Haynes Publications Inc., 861 Lawrence Drive, Newbury Park, CA 91320.

28/3/34 Frost & WoodHoward F. Dow, 10414 West Caton Rd., Corning, NY 14830 writes in this regard, wondering if anyone can explain an apparent connection between the Frost &. Wood machines made at Smith Falls, Canada and the Walter A. Wood machines made at Hoosick Falls, New York. It's always been our understanding that the two firms were unrelated, either by family or by corporate lineage. However, we would suggest that Frost 6k Wood may have secured a license to build certain machines of Walter A. Wood Company. However, some of our readers may have researched this connection, and if so, we would like to hear from them.

28/3/48 Ingersoll-RandJoe Graham, 8316 Streng Ave., Citrus Heights, CA 95610 writes: : Ingersoll-Rand marketed two versions of the 3R (SPOTAIR) compressors, the 3R30 and the 3R36. The 30 delivered 30 cfm @80psi, and the 36 delivered 36 cfm.

The 3R30 was discontinued shortly after 1950. The 3R36 was discontinued shortly after 1967.

[On another subject], the cubic inch displacement of any engine can be easily figured using the following formula:

Diameter (bore) squared times the stroke times the number of cylinders times pi/4- Example, using the data from the 3R30: Bore 2.875, stroke 2.50, 3 cylinders, pi/4 = .7854- Then 2.875 squared = 8.266 times 2.5 (stroke) = 20.664, times 3 (no. of cylinders) = 61.9922, times .7854 = 48.6 cubic inches.

28/2/2 Homelite InvertedThis particular one is a Homelite inverted cylinder model made by Homelite itself. By contacting your local Homelite-Textron dealer, perhaps an owners manual might be available.

28/3/39 GrinderThis is a Sears grinder, built by Acme Mfg. Co. for the David Bradley Company and sold from 1911 to 1923.

28/3/47I also have a WAJAX engine, but is in poor condition. An aluminum plate on the flywheel reads: FENWYCK GALLOWAY MFG CO., Newark, New Jersey. The carb on my engine is a Schebler Model B. It is nicely plated. On my engine the cylinders and pistons are shot, but the rest is salvageable. I have seen the identical engine, even to the casting numbers, only with EVINRUDE cast on the manifold. This engine was mounted on a 1 Vi inch water pump, that was built to assist fire departments augment their water supply. Water for cooling the engine was diverted from the pump discharge and was routed to the engine block. After cooling the engine, the heated water was discharged back to the pump inlet, therefore the engine did not need a separate pump for cooling. As near as I could tell, these pumps were built somewhere in the 1930s or 1940s. The above responses were submitted by Andrew K. Mackey, 26 Mott Pl, Rockaway Boro, NJ 07866.

A Closing Word

See the illustration of an Atlantic Pumping Engine as sold by the Harold L. Bond Company at Boston. This rather poor illustration appeared in the July 30, 1913 Engineering and Contracting. We've always understood this to be an elusive engine, and the above magazine is one of the few advertisements we've found for the Atlantic. Perhaps there are a few Atlantic engines out there yet. Are there any complete pumpers as shown here ?

This year, 1993, marks the 100th year that Fairbanks-Morse has been in the engine business. In that connection, ye olde Reflector is currently compiling a Centennial History of Fairbanks-Morse, with completion anticipated by late summer.

In working at Fairbanks-Morse we were fortunate in locating numerous items of interest. However, the company does not maintain a formal archive, and various historical items are spread throughout several departments. We hope that the finished book will contain some surprises, even for those who have studied the company in detail.

So far as we know, the company does not offer regular tours of their engine plant. However, during the course of several days' work at Beloit, we were afforded this opportunity. On the test stand we saw a twelve-cylinder Colt-Pielstick v-type diesel, capable of about 18,000 horsepower. What an impressive engine! Fairbanks-Morse continues to build the opposed-piston (OP) engines which they pioneered and made famous. Today's versions include a new Enviro-Design model built to conform to and even exceed the very rigid government emission standards.

In closing, it appears that we have a substantial tour lined up for England in June. For those who haven't traveled to England before, it should be especially enjoyable. Believe it or not, there's been so much interest in this tour to England, that within a year or two, we'll be talking to you in terms of a similar two-week tour, but to various points in Europe, including Norway, Sweden, Denmark, France, Holland, and Germany. Each of these countries holds some substantial, and very interesting, collections. But more on that, later.

This copy will be in your hands sometime in April. We would like to inform our readers that we intend to again represent Gas Engine Magazine at the huge annual swap meet at Waukee, Iowa in May. We hope to see you there!

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