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Sattley Engine

23/5/23

Kent M. Savis

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23/5/22 Q. Can anyone identify this engine? Any information will be appreciated. Arnold  Spencer, 111 Grove Street, AIma, Michigan, 48801.

A. Mr. Spencer notes also that on the top of the engine is a faded decal resembling the Economy 'butterfly' style used on the late model engines sold by Sears-Roebuck. The engine is unquestionably built by Cushman, and since it is finished in red, we would suggest that they built it on order for Sears. Anyone with additional information, kindly let us know.

23/5/23 Q. Can you identify the engine in this photo? Its nameplate reads: Trench & Marine Pump Co., Type TML, HP 2, Size 3. Kent M. Savis, 117 Kingston Road, Parsippany, 'New Jersey 07054.

A. We believe the engine to be a Sattley as sold by Montgomery Ward during the 1930's.

23/5/24 Q. I have a UtiliMotor by Johnson Motor Co., Waukegan, Illinois. It is a small two-cycle, very similar to the Maytag. Was it a predecessor to the Maytag, or an imitator? Can it be dated from the serial number? I have the flywheel, but the complete ignition system is missing. There are no magnets in the flywheel and no bolt holes where they might have been attached. Can anyone give me information on the ignition, or does anyone have an instruction manual? Jim Paquette, 60-A High St., Uxbridge, MA. 01596.

A. At this point in time, no one will probably ever know for sure whether Maytag had any connection with Johnson, and if so, to what extent. We would guess that if Maytag had any dealings with this firm, it was an up-and-up deal for the purchase of certain patents or rights. Beyond that, we seriously doubt if any connection existed. There is always the possibility of a lookalike imitation. After all, some things were simply not subject to patents-similar designs had perhaps been patented and their time had run out, putting the design into the public domain. We've never seen a single piece of literature on the UtiliMotor, and in fact, some of these companies didn't print any. They were not in business long enough to get that far, or in other cases, it was assumed that the purchaser knew what was necessary, leaving any literature as an unneeded expense.

23/5/25 Q. I have an Economy engine, No.24876. Can it be dated from the serial number, and what is its horsepower? Joseph J. Englert, 3825 Walworth Ontario Road, Walworth, New York 14568.

A. Economy engines cannot be dated from the serial numbers. The horsepower should be stamped on the serial number plate.

23/5/26 Q. We need help in identifying the engine in these two photos. It powered a self-propelled trenching machine. Note the unusual shape of the counterweight in the flywheel, the key guard, and the pre-heater on the carburetor. Any information will be appreciated. Elizabeth Morris, 112 Irwin Drive, Powell, Tennessee 37849

A. Our first impression made us look up the Lauson file, but that didn't match. Then came the Armstrong Mfg. Company, but that doesn't match up either. After another hour or so, we decided that we can't name it either!

23/5/27 Q. James Fehl, RD 1, Box 1900, Ft. Edward, New York 12828 needs information on the Hibbard Gas Engine Company, Sandy Hill, New York (now Hudson Falls). The company was in business from the later 1800's to 1940. In that period gasoline engines for stationary use as well as launch engines were manufactured. Having researched the patent files, it was found that nine patents were filed, ranging from various gas engine components to an early hydraulic transmission. Any information at all in order to compile a history of the company will be appreciated.

23/5/28 Q. Does anyone have any information on the 'Nevada Auto Plow built at Nevada, Iowa? Eldon Burley, Box 212, Toledo, Illinois 62468

A. In compiling Encyclopedia of American Farm Tractors the only information we could locate indicated that the Nevada Auto Plow came out in 1913. It was rated at 12 drawbar and 25 belt horsepower. Beyond this, very little information has surfaced, so we would be most happy to hear from anyone with information on the short-lived Nevada Auto Plow.

23/5/29 Q. What was the proper color for Sandwich engines? Payne Bros., Walter Payne, RR3, Box 79, Gouverneur, New York, 13642.

A. Our listings show DuPont Dulux 93-5800 green.

23/5/30 Q. Can anyone provide information on a Cushman Model W4, 2? HP engine. Any response will be appreciated. Dwight Miller, Box 182, Spearfish, South Dakota 57783.

A. We have no information on the W series engines.

23/5/31 Q. We bought an old Gibson tractor with a Wisconsin Model AEH engine, 3 x 3? bore and stroke. Can anyone tell us more about this particular tractor, its size, age, proper colors, etc. On the rear end of the tractor GIBSON is cast, and on the other side 300. The front axle has Gibson in the casting, and steers with a tiller. Any information will be appreciated. Charles B. Kaulfers, RD 3, Box 574, Saylorsburg, PA. 18353.

A. Yours is probably the Model SD Gibson tractor, the smallest of the series. We have no specific information, but believe it to have been built in the early 1950's.

23/5/32 Q. I have a 2? HP Empire engine, s/n 96551 made by Empire Cream Separator Company, Bloomfield, New Jersey. This engine is not mentioned in American Gas Engines, therefore I would like to know where to secure information on it. Paul W. Hartman, Route 2, Box 236, Rocky Fork Road, Smyrna, TN, 37167.

A. Without a photograph it is virtually impossible to know who built this particular engine, but it seems very likely that it was someone besides Empire. This often happened, and with some companies, the engine make changed very frequently, depending on who came in with the low bid.

23/5/33 Q. I recently purchased a 3 HP Alamo Blue Line engine, Type A, hit-and-miss, s/n 65186. This engine appears to have been painted black. Was this the correct color? Also, can anyone tell me the approximate date? Any information will be appreciated. Jim Lenderman, 1600 Paula, Nacogdoches, Texas, 75961.

A. We believe that the Blue Line was, as the name implies, a brilliant blue, but cannot locate an accurate color match.

23/5/34 Q. I am a new reader to GEM and enjoy it very much. I have a 2 HP Maximotor, s/n 2002, but do not see it listed in American Gas Engines. It is all original, even the paint is in very good condition. It was used in an oil station to pump fuel and gas from railroad cars to the bulk tanks. Do you have any information on this engine? It has an excellent spark on the bench, but on the engine the spark is weak or non-existent. Can anyone help? James Tucek, RR2, Box 2257, Lewistown, Montana 59457.

A. Offhand, we can't find any information on the Maximotor either. However, in order for us to suggest some ideas regarding the magneto troubles, you'll need to send us a photo of the engine showing the type of magneto being used. From the sound of things, worn components are the culprit, but depending on the type of magneto, identifying the worn parts might be the problem. More often than not, poor spark or no spark is caused by worn bearings that permit the armature to drag against the poles.

23/5/35 Q. Can you identify the engine in this photo? The flywheel is 10' in diameter. Ignition system parts are missing. It is two-cycle, water cooled, and uses a transom mount. Any information will be appreciated. H.B. French, Jr., Rt 1, Valley Road, Lumpkin, Georgia, 31815.

23/5/36 Q. I have a 1947 Model Galion road grader, s/n M6 8849. It is powered by an Oliver '80' four-cylinder gas engine, s/n 900872M. Since I need to make some minor repairs to the engine, I need to locate some suppliers of old Oliver parts. I can't even get an oil filter for it-Part No. CSRASS01. This is a sock-type filter. Was this Oliver 80 engine the same as used in the tractors? Or in the row-crop 880? Any help anyone can lend me will certainly be appreciated. Dan Boyer, 9910 Oxbow, South Lyon, Michigan 48178.

A. The Reflector has never gotten into Oliver as deeply as some other things, so here's one for those who have studied Oliver.

23/5/37Bill Wallner, 2039 Laurel Road, Cave Junction, Oregon 97523 would be immensely grateful to hear from someone with a McVicker automatic engine. He is working on restoration of a 3 HP model and needs more information. All letters will be answered, or you can call Bill at 503-592-3605.

23/5/38 Q. See my enclosed photos. (A) illustrates a Waterbury 2 HP Model G, with a Briggs & Stratton Model N engine. (B) shows a Cunningham Model EB built by James Cunningham & Co., Rochester, New York. Any information on these companies will be appreciated. J. Roger Kilton, Sr., Kilton Rd., West Canaan, RR 1, Box 386A, Enfield, New Hampshire 03748.

A. Our research has uncovered very little on Cunningham, and nothing at all on the Waterbury.

23/5/39 Q. I seem to recall but cannot find an article about slowing engines down for shows by setting the timing back. Could you answer this for me? Monte Shock-man, 5021 Peg St., Boise, Idaho 83705.

A. We do not recall ever coming across this method-setting the timing so far back as to slow down the engine would, if nothing else, result in an engine that ran terribly hot within a short time. Slowing an engine down for show purposes only requires that you decrease the tension on the governor springs. On the usual flywheel type governor, many people take off one of the springs, while others replace the standard springs with some that are much smaller. The proper tension can only be derived from some experimenting. But, don't ever retard the spark any more than necessary to make the engine run well, and don't retard it enough to make the engine labor or 'sound late'.

23/5/40Now, a special thanks to the following people: Harold W. Hauger, Rt 2, 10819 Tucker Road, Mt. Vernon, Ohio 43050 and Ed Longhenry, 15150 Old Guslander Tr., Marine-On-St. Croix, MN 55047. Both of these gentlemen forwarded materials for our files in regard to the Edwards engines, and to our great joy, both sets of literature were different! Thanks!

READERS WRITE

Hart-Parr air compressors

W.E. Neal, 613 8th Ave., Charles City, Iowa 50616 writes that Hart-Parr did in fact build the 12-24 and 18-36 tractor engines as air compressors. One cylinder was used for air and the other one kept things running. Mr. Neal also comments regarding the number of 1? volt dry cells used on early engines and tractors that the early 30-60 Hart-Parr used five cells for 7? volts.

23/3/10Duro enginesThanks to Leo Roggow, 410 W. Park St., St. Johns, Michigan 48879 for sending us photography material on the Duro engine. In looking it over it becomes obvious that Duro was selling pumps, etc. as late as 1923, and perhaps later.

23/3/2Cushman Husky DecalsBill Benedick, P.O. Box 107, Blue Ball, PA, 17506 sends us a set of his Cushman Husky decals with the Permalite decal attached. Now we know that these decals are available, contrary to the Reflector's previous comment that they weren't to our knowledge within reach. Contact Mr. Benedick for further details.

23/2/45Caterpillar serial numbersRobert E. Zimpel, RR 2, Box 16, McGrath, MN, 56350 writes that he would like years built for a Cat Diesel Forty, 3G1832W and a Cat '15' No. 7070. Unfortunately, the Reflector's Cat records begin with the 2F '22' series of 1934 so we can't help. Is there anyone out there with this information?

MODELMAKER'S CORNER

J.T. Hanson, 111 Fairway Drive, Grenelefe, Haines City, Florida, 33844, sends a photo of his freelance model engine. It was modeled from a few snapshots Mr. Hanson took of a Schramm engine-compressor belonging to Edd Sigmon, Newton, North Carolina. In fact, after getting the engine done, Edd talked Mr. Hanson out of this model. The engine was entirely fabricated except for the flywheels, gears, oil cups, pressure gauge, and ignition system. The flywheels are 9 inches across. The engine side has a 1? x 2 inch bore and stroke, while the compressor side uses a 1? x 1? inch bore and stroke. The engine runs along very nicely at 65 psi.

A CLOSING WORD

Among other research projects, the Reflector is considering a comprehensive book on circular sawmills. We propose the kind of book that would be useful to those operating conventional mills as well as those interested in building a model sawmill. Anyone having literature, information, or suggestions in this regard, kindly contact: Reflections, Gas Engine Magazine, Box 328, Lancaster, PA, 17603.

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