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R &. V Engine

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28/3/47 Never Too Late! Q. I am 77 years old. Like you see on the photos, the carburetor is missing. Two months ago I found a marine engine, good compression, no rust, and made in Montreal. WAJAX is the engine name. It is two-cylinder, and weighs 32 pounds. Can anyone tell me anything about this engine, and what kind of carburetor I need? Edouard Racicot, 375 Bel Horizon, Lennoxville, Quebec, Canada.

28/3/48 Ingersoll-Rand Q. See the photo of an Ingersoll-Rand radial compressor. It is a Model 3R30, s/n 409, 2? x 2? inch bore and stroke. Three cylinders are for power and three for air compression. There is no air tank on these, and you hook up directly to the jack hammer. What is the cubic inch and the horsepower of this compressor, also its age? Any information will be appreciated. Donald R. Brantmeier, RR 5, Box 77A, Eldon, MO 65026.

28/3/49 Montgomery-Ward Tractor Q. I have a Montgomery-Ward tractor. The engine is a Montgomery-Ward, Model 14LC50261, s/n A43229, Cat. No. 87-50261. 1 HP, 2400 rpm, 'Lausen' cast in engine block. Tag on gear box is SS3208R. It has the original Wards Riverside Power Grip tires. Any information, especially its age, will be greatly appreciated. Raymond L. Gray, 740 Honeymoon Hill, Gatlinburg, TN 37738.

28/3/50 Lykke's Grand Island Foundry Q. I am seeking any information or any whereabouts of any gas engine which my grandfather built at the turn of the century. My grandfather was Albert Lykke, proprietor of Lykke's Grand Island Foundry, Grand Island, Nebraska. He was a machinist who built 2 to 8 horsepower engines. Style A was 2 and 4 HP; Style B represented 6 and 8 HP. The only information I have is a business card of my grandfather's which also shows a picture of the Style B, 6 & 8 HP engine. Grandfather also built an automobile in 1901 at Grand Island.

Any information will be appreciated. Donald R. Lykke, PO Box 237, Mayer, AZ 86333.

28/3/51 Information Needed Q. My name is Marty Coffey. I am 8 years old. I go to motor shows with my grandpa, Tom Coffey, and my dad, Tommy Coffey. I have a Briggs WMB kick start. See the photos of garden tractors: 51A is a George made in Sullivan, Illinois. Can anyone date this machine, or does anyone have a manual? 51B is a Simplicity with a Briggs Model U. Photo 51C is a Handyman, Type #60754, serial #D2708. We would like to hear from anyone about these or other tractors, mowers, or engines. Marty Coffey, 200 Power Cir., Box C 64-2, Hudson, NC 28638.

A. Here's a young man who's obviously interested in old iron. If anyone can be of help to this lad, would you kindly do so!

28/3/52 Termaat & Monahan  Max F. Homfeld, 7964 Oakwood Park Ct., St. Michaels, MD 21663 sends additional information, subsequent to his article on T & M in January 1993 GEM):

The first refers to my table of T & M models for 1907, on page 19. The model at the bottom of the list was a two-cylinder engine of 7 x 7 inch bore and stroke and rated at 30 HP. Joe Suydam of Chestertown, MD, sent a T & M ad from the April 4, 1909 issue of Motor Boat. It shows a new 30 HP model with three cylinders of 5'/4 x 6 inch bore and stroke. It is called a 'Heavy Duty Engine.' The two-cylinder 30 HP engine is still being of freed as their 'Extreme Heavy Duty Engine.'

I was told that Universal was selling a marine conversion of a small Japanese Kubota tractor engine, built so that it could easily replace the Atomic Four, as it was given identical mountings and shaft location. Bill Thien of Trappe, MD, informs me that Universal was purchased by Waterbuck Corp of Avon, MA, and is being operated as a division of Waterbuck. Universal continues to convert the small diesel. They manufacture no parts for the Atomic Four, though they sell some parts that come from suppliers; valves, bearings, piston rings, etc. Waterbuck converts four-cylinder Mitsubishi diesels, mainly for use in cruising sail boats.

Last item, a call from Larry Beehering of Oshkosh, WI. He owns many papers from the Universal Motor Co. factory.

28/3/53 Friend Engine The New Jersey Museum of Agriculture has recently taken in a Friend combination engine/pump, as shown in the photographs. It came from a bam in Franklin Lakes, New Jersey on land that had not been farmed for 45 years. It is in excellent condition, and still has good, original paint. The engine turns freely and the magneto delivers a good spark, although we haven't yet tried to start it. It is on display in the Museum at New Brunswick, New Jersey. Coles Roberts, Curator, New Jersey Museum of Agriculture, 1668 Church Road, Southampton, NJ 08088.

28/3/54 Unidentified Engine Q. See the photo of a two-cycle marine engine adopted over to stationary use. It has no sign of a water pump, so it must have been set up for screen cooling. The only marks are a serial number of 161. The following parts have numbers: A-2, water jacket; A-52, piston; A-56 connecting rod. It has a 4? inch bore and stroke. Any help will be appreciated. Louis Werner, 305 E. Mill, Freeburg, IL 62243.

28/3/55 Unidentified Engine Q. Can anyone identify the engine in the accompanying photographs? Charles Mikesell, 9800 La Hontan, Boise, ID 83709.

A. It's an R &. V engine made by Root & V underfoot Engineering Company. This company is discussed on pages 432-35 of American Gas Engines. However, your engine isn't illustrated. It was a 'competition' engine made to sell at a price, and didn't even have a brass nameplate, all in an effort to lower the cost.

Readers Write

MARCO Etc. Max F. Homfeld, 7964 Oakwood Park Ct., St. Michaels, MD 21663 writes:

I have long known about a horsepower formula which I called 'taxable horsepower' because it was used to determine license plate fees in some states. The formula is cylinder bore in inches, squared, times the number of cylinders, divided by 2.5. The formula gives about 22.5 HP for the Model T Ford, which is about right. However, it is ridiculous for a modern engine. Recently, I found the source of the formula. It is in the book, American Cyclopedia of the Automobile, 6 volumes, edited by Russell and Root (Motorcars and Motoring, Self-Taught) 1909 edition. The formula is the A.L.A.M. (Association of Licensed Automobile Manufacturers, formed in 1903).

I also ran across literature on the MARCO light plant of 1919. It was built by the Marmon Company, Chicago, to be sold through Marmon auto dealers. It was rated at 4 HP, 800 rpm, and air cooled. There was also a grain binder version.

28/1/13 Stover Vacuum I believe the Stover at one time had a vacuum cylinder with the rod connected to the power cylinder rod. I have seen a K Stover and a ZB Fairbanks (Empire) like this. F-M Z engines are still produced in Mexico and a copy is produced in Bowie, Texas by Bell Mfg. They are used for oil field pumpers using natural gas from the oil wells they pump. Engines in 28/1/6 are of this type.

28/1/26CIs a Climax or a Continental. These are modern versions of the old iron. They have Timken bearings and electronic mags. If you look close at the Ajax you will see the electric starter. 28/1/6

I have two Edwards engines, both dark blue. . .I would call it a royal blue.

28/1/35I once talked to a man in New Mexico who had one of these with lots of chrome. He told me that his brother-in-law had been employed at a Ward's-owned plant called Hummel Plow Works. He said they tooled up to build this engine. His was a show model. He said after a short production run the company decided to purchase engines from Briggs & Stratton and stopped production.

The above was submitted by Robert Johnson, Route 2, Box 358, Canyon, TX 79015-9637.

Oshkosh Engine While looking through the November 1992 issue the Oshkosh engine on page 6 caught my eye. I have an engine with no name that appears identical. I am enclosing a photo (see RW-1). A collector told me it is a Gray, but I don't know for sure now. It has a 3? inch bore, unfortunately, it is missing a cylinder head. Everything else is there, and in very good condition. Do you know if this engine was made under several different names, or what brand this one is? Chuck Fanucci, 211 McPherson St., Santa Cruz, CA 95060.

27/12/9In 1944 or 45 I bought a new engine like this one. It was war time and to get machinery a person had to find it, then get a permit to buy it. It was rated 2? HP @1800 rpm. It was built by Onan for Fairbanks-Morse. I bought it to run a seed cleaner. I also had to get a permit to get the seed cleaner. I was in the certified seed business at the time.

In regard to the Gilson tractor of 27/12/10 [Compare this to] the Plow Man Tractor of the 1920 Chilton Tractor Index. It used a Buda 4? x 6 L-head engine running at 1,000 rpm.

Merl Barnes, 7013 North view, Boise, Idaho 83704.

27/12/9 Fairbanks-Morse This engine was made around 1944. .. .also on page 26, the F-12 would be a 1933 or later, as they started making the F-12 in 1933, starting with serial no. 501. Delbert Kaesser, 221 First Ave., Rowley, IA 52329. [Years ago, Delbert made a replica of a John Deere toy tractor for his boy to play with, using one of the above engines, Delbert says it turned out better than he expected, and ended up looking very much like a small John Deere A, complete with hand clutch, throttle, and individual brakes. He sold it about 1959, and it's had several owners since, but at last report, it's still going! Ed.]

27/7/43This engine exhibits several features that tell me it's a Witte. The first is the shape of the air inlet on the fuel mixer and the choke plate. Secondly is the style of the flywheels, a rather thin wheel but with a wide web and a rather large diameter. Next is the design of the cam gear and detent lever; this is the same as used on my Witte 4HP headless engine. However, on my engine the detent points straight down and engages the end of the large rocker arm. The governor weights are also of the same style as my engine. Also, a timing, or speed control lever is shown in the photo. The style of the lever is the same as the advance/retard lever on my engine. The lever on my engine is located behind the cam gear which is below and behind the flywheel on the left side of the engine. The base and cylinder castings also exhibit Witte styling.

This spring I purchased a Goold Shapely & Muir engine. It is a Type K, throttling governor style with a Webster magneto. Rated at 2 HP, 500 rpm, s/n 13797. It is hopper cooled, with the kerosene tank cast into the engine base. The engine is styled considerably different from the IDEAL model shown on page 211 of American Gas Engines. Several fellow collectors say they have not seen another Goold engine like it. Can anyone supply additional information? Mark L. Rembis, 2190 Buford-Bardwell Rd., Mt. Orab, OH 45154.

Chevrolet 216 Engines I would like to comment about the John G. Ruff article in the November 1992 GEM:

John G. Ruff's little article about the Chevy tractor was amusing to say the least-then I got a little more than upset. I would like to know how Mr. Ruff gained such expertise on the 216 Chevrolet engine.

First of all, Mr. Ruff refers to the 216 as being a 'splash lubricator.' That in itself is misleading. A 'splash system' in the true sense is like what a small four cycle lawn mower engine uses. The Chevy Manual states, 'Rod bearings are lubricated at low speeds by means of dippers on the rod bearing caps which dip into oil filled troughs in the oil pan. At higher speeds, lubrication is amply maintained by oil nozzles which direct a stream of oil that is intercepted by the dippers, thereby, forcing oil into the bearings under high pressure.'

What usually happened was people would pull the oil pan off and bump the oil nozzles or put the oil dippers on the wrong way, and presto, you have a rod or rods knocking.

As far as getting only 40,000 or 50,000 miles out of a 216, Mr. Ruff must not have known how to take care of them. I have a 216 in my 1949 Chevy ? ton that I have put over 100,000 miles on. Early in the summer I pulled it down and the cylinders were only about 1? thousandths out. You are allowed .003'. I put new rings and main bearings in, and I have put around 7,000 miles on it since then.

As far as a 216 in a tractor.. .my father used one in a log skidding tractor that he made in the 1960s, that most certainly had more than 1200 hours on it.

The whole point to this article is, I have noticed that there are [people] claiming to be experts on older things but don't seem to be remembering things right or they are too young to have had any real experience with the equipment. I use 1880s and 1890s equipment in my business, with hit-and-miss headless Witte [engines] for power. Please,.. .if you.. . [are] going to write an article, do your homework before [writing it]. . .I do understand Mr. Ruff could have had a bad experience with the 216, but don't make it sound like everybody did. Mark Farnsworth, 1641 Tolley Drive, Sissonville, WV

25320.[Mr. Farnsworth's letter is presented virtually intact, although edited by us. Please bear in mind, that as with Mr. Ruff s article, the Farnsworth comments are likewise, his own opinion in the matter. We respect the opinions of both writers. Beyond that, we won' t editorialize, nor will we comment either way regarding the quality or lack thereof in the Chevrolet 216 engine. In engineland, there are a couple of different engine makes that come to mind which ye olden Reflector doesn't care about, but in the overall perspective of the hobby, we'll keep our opinions sequestered. Diversity is a great asset to our hobby, and with that positive input, 'nuff sed!'

A Closing Word

What's happening on the model scene? As we put this column to bed in early January, we'll confess our disappointment at not hearing from any of the model makers for awhile. Have you folks all gone underground? I'll bet that we haven't heard from any of you because you're just too darn busy at the lathe to fiddle around taking any pictures.

Call the GEM office (717)392-0733 for a brochure of the Engine Extravaganza in merrie old England this summer. If you're on the fence, we think you'll be pleasantly surprised when you see the itinerary. They've got a lot of wonderful activities planned, and we'll have the benefit of Alex Skinner, a resident expert, during the entire tour. Many of you have met Alex on some of his trips over to see what we have.

By the time this copy is in your hands (mid-or late February), those in warmer climes will probably be thinking seriously about the coming shows. (Those of us in the frigid belt will be quite content to warm ourselves by the fire for a few weeks yet). How often do you think of our hobby in terms of its historical significance? By preserving this old iron we're preserving a bit of our mechanical past, and as we said at the beginning of this column, considering what those folks had in the way of tools and equipment, it's doubly amazing that they could build anything at all!

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