Inverted vertical engine


R. A. Finkenbinder

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28/6/19 A Big Thank You! I put two pictures in the February GEM of a Novo engine. I needed information on it, and got a great response. Thanks to all that wrote letters and sent data sheets; now I know it's a Novo AG model. Bob Browne, 25 Washington St., Mendon, MA 01756.

28/6/20 Rubber BeltingQ. Does anyone know of a place where belting for a threshing machine can be obtained? I should think rubber conveyor belting would work if cut to the proper width.

Also, I have an old steam engine manual that states, 'Rubber belts will be greatly improved if they are covered with a mixture of black lead and litharge in equal parts, mixed with boiled linseed oil and just enough japan to dry them quickly.' Can anyone translate this recipe into today's terms? Jim O'Connell, 2151- 95th St SE, Delano, MN 55328.

A. Black lead is graphite or plumb ago, and is so-called because of its lead like appearance. Litharge is simply lead monoxide. Japan was formerly used to give a high gloss to varnish, especially in the carriage-building trade. It also is a powerful dryer. Due to its cost, japan is not now used so much as formerly.

Regarding your first question, conveyor belting would not be suitable for power transmission work. Where moisture is no problem, leather belting has no rivals for transmitting power on flat pulleys, especially iron pulleys.

28/6/21 Stover CT-2Q. Do you have the proper color for a Stover CT-2, s/n 247801, also the year built? Kent Heidnis, 2 Volouski  Rd., Avon, CT 06001.

A. The engine was built in 1937. For the CT engines, PPG-44616 green seems to be a good match.

28/6/22 United States Engine?Q. See the photo of an inverted vertical engine. It is either a United States 2 HP, or was made by Temple Pump Co., (see pages 505 and 524 of American Gas Engines) . It is missing the name tag and gas tank, and is set up for spark plug ignition. I would appreciate hearing from other owners of these engines. R. A. Finkenbinder, 827 New Bloomfield Rd., Duncannon, PA 17020.

28/6/23 Cletrac Information NeededQ. I have acquired the Cletrac that is pictured. Its serial number is A999. The engine is a Wisconsin six-cylinder, Type H with a 4 x 5 inch bore and stroke. The engine number is 2747 I would like to know what model the crawler is and what year it was built, if possible. Any other information on this crawler would also be appreciated. Merlin Crohn, HC88, Box  402, Dagmar, MT 59219.

A. We recently completed a history of Oliver and Hart-Parr, but it won't be released until later this year. Mean while, we have a problem, since all of our copy is with the publisher, and we have nothing to refer to. Can anyone be of help to Mr. Crohn?

28/6/24 Huber TractorQ. I have just purchased a Huber tractor and am interested in restoring it. It runs good and looks good. I was wondering if you would have the paint number and where I might purchase an owner's manual . The model is HK and the serial number is 11277, built in 1935. Any help will be appreciated. Art Jensen Sr., RR 15, Box 376, Brazil, IN 47834.

A. We don't have a color match on Huber ... can anyone help? And by the way, we'll be assembling a new edition of the Notebook later this year. If any of you can supply additional color matches, be sure to send them in!

28/6/25 E. H. Myers EnginesQ. Can anyone supply information on this engine:

E. H. Myers & Bro., Mfgrs. of Portable & Stationary Gasoline Engines, Myerstown, Pa., 5 H.P., 425 RPM, No. 119CC

28/6/26 Little Bear TractorQ. See the photo of the running gear of a Little Bear tractor made by the Los Angeles Auto Tractor Co. around 1920. I'm in the process of restoring this tractor. It was powered by a Model T engine, and used many other Ford parts. It is listed in the Encyclopedia of American Farm Tractors on page 173 . I would like to hear from anyone that has restored a Little Bear or who has any information on same, including the correct color. Albert Fuqua, 6236 State Line Rd., Springfield, TN 37172.

28/6/27 Caterpillar Information A couple of folks have written to tell us of the Antique Caterpillar Machinery Owners Club, 10816 Monitor McKee Rd NE, Woodburn, OR 97071. If interested in this group, contact them for further information. We also understand that Caterpillar is offering Collector Cards of various equipment. We're not sure whom you should contact . . . perhaps a Caterpillar dealer.

28/6/28 Engines vs. Suburbia Bob Solomon, PO Box 74, Normal, IL 61761 makes an inquiry we've heard before about reducing the noise of vintage engines in residential neighbor hoods. The concern is that using an automotive muffler or similar device might add sufficiently to the backpressure and cause valve burning, etc. It's our opinion that this would be an inexpensive, relatively safe, and rather effective method of obtaining the sound control needed in suburbia. All through life we have to respect the opinions of others, even if we don't agree. And, here's a case in point. That delightful sound we call stack music has every likelihood of evoking the wrath of the neighbor lady who has just spent three hours trying to get the colicky baby to sleep! Seriously, we doubt that any of these old engines running idle are going to be hurt by the addition of a muffler for sound abatement.

28/6/29 NAPA Paint  Q. NAPA Stores have 99L-8754 paint that they will mix and put into an aerosol can. It corresponds to DuPont 7498, used on the McCormick-Deering engines. Also, is there a color match for the red used on the IHC LA and LB engines? Stirling K. Welch, 1208 Truman SE, Albuquerque, NM 87108.

A. We're not sure anyone living knows for certain, but our best guess is that it was IH #50, and this corresponds to PPG70019 or Martin-Senour 90R224 red.

28/6/30 Walking Beam PumpQ. I need the proper color of a Shelton Bros. Builders, Padua, Ky. Class A Walking Beam Steam Pump. It was used to feed the boiler on a steamboat and was called a STEAMBOAT DOKTOR. I would like to correspond with anyone having one of these pumps. This 'before restoration' photo shows the need of valves and pumps. Also, the person discussing the 4 HP John Bean at the Zolfo Springs show in March, please contact me. Robert T. Strong, 1308 Sunrise Dr., N. Ft. Myers, FL 33917.

28/6/31 Alamo Blue LineQ. What is the proper blue for the Alamo Blue Line engines? Jim Mitchell, Box 844, Walhalla, ND 58282.

A. PPG 13594 Blue.

28/6/32 Oldest Washer We understand that Maytag Company at Newton, Iowa is searching for its oldest operating aluminum tub wringer washer in a contest to celebrate the company's centennial. Maytag made about 12 million of these machines between 1919 and 1983. Entries must be postmarked by June 15. Owners are asked to send their name, address, phone number, and washer serial number on a 3 x 5 card to Maytag Co., Dept CW, One Dependability Square, Newton, IA 50208. The winner will have to agree to sell the appliance to the company for $1,000 in cash and a new Maytag washer.

28/6/33 Information Needed John Albert, RR 2, Box 322, Madawaska, ME 04756 needs information on the following engines: Massey-Harris Type 2, 6 HP, need color and date; IHC Type M, 6 HP, color and build date, but no nameplate; Desjardins, no s/n plate; Desjardins, no s/n plate; Deere Type E, 1 HP, #270240, color code needed; Deere Type W, color code needed; Wisconsin VH4D #3408668.

A. The John Deere 1 HP was built in 1927. See above for color of  IHC Type M; the Deere engines are the same as tractors of that period. We have no M-H or Desjardins data.

28/6/34 Unidentified EngineQ. See the photos of an unidentified engine. It has no nameplate, and the photos do not show a magneto trip eccentric on the right-hand side of the crankshaft. It has a 6 x 10 inch bore and stroke and a round connecting rod. The only significant number is on the right-hand side of the frame, No. 16486. Specs are: flywheel, 2 x 34 inches; crank, 2 3/8 inch diameter; con rod, 22 inches long, flywheel number F22. Any information will be appreciated. Glenn Joel, Box 1, Elbow, SASK S0H 1J0 Canada.

28/6/35 Economy InformationQ. Can you tell the year built for. a 5 HP Economy, s/n 84148? Van T. Hunn, 2202 San Ramon Ct., Arlington, TX 76013.

A. 1916.

28/6/36 Unidentified EngineQ. See the photos of an engine I bought at the Carlisle Auto Show last fall. The engine is in excellent condition. I would like to know the make, and its use. Ronald McClellan, 201 W. Boot Road, West Chester, PA 19380.

A. This is a Standard engine made by the Standard Cream Separator Company. It is illustrated and described on page 479 of American Gas Engines Since 1872.

28/6/37 Economy EngineQ. I have an Economy gasoline engine, 2 HP, s/n 7892. When was it made? Vernon Ahrent,  Rt 1, Box 192, Coming, AR 72422.

A. We would suppose sometime between 1909 and 1913; to our knowledge there are no specific records on this early example.

28/6/38 Information Needed  Q. I have the need for information on three items; see the photos. Photo 38A illustrates what I think is an air compressor; it has 5-inch pistons. Photo 38B shows a small grinder. The only markings are 'New Model' and a patent date of February 9, 1903 on a lever. Photo 38C shows a rock crusher made by Universal Crusher Co., Cedar Rapids, Iowa. It has 16-inch flywheels. I would like to know its color and what it was used for. Any help will be appreciated. Byron Boike, 2280 Co. Rd 5 SW,Willmar, MN 56201.

A. We can tell you that the rock crusher was not that uncommon. Farmers found out that many soils need lime to balance the pH level. Small crushers became very popular for this purpose during the teens. Of course the use of crushed rock for roadbeds was another major use, but these small machines were mainly con fined to making crushed limestone and providing a source of crushed rock around the farmyard. Even a small crusher requires a fair amount of power.