Reflections

A BRIEF WORD

Hit-and-miss model

MM-3

Dell R. Grupe

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25/7/32 Climax Engines Jim Hudkins, Long Acres Farm, Hudkins Drive, Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 44223 would like to hear from other owners of Climax engines, particularly the Climax R 41 or circa 1950.

25/7/33 Stover-Lauson Q. We need information on a Stover engine built by Lauson, as shown in the photo. Need to know about the carb, magneto , and the oil pump. It is shown on page 494 of American Gas Engines. Bud Denny, PO Box 2242, Tuscaloosa, Alabama 35403.

25/7/34 McCormick 10-20 Q. I am restoring a 1931 10-20 IHC McCormick tractor would like to know its proper colors. Kenneth Grant, P.O. Box 245, Galway, New York 12074-0245.

A. See the earlier question in this regard for the gray and red numbers required.

25/7/35 Hot Air Engines Q. I am interested in old hot air engines and steam engines, not only big, but also models. Are there any magazines devoted to steam engines and dynamos? Are there shops in the USA for old machines? Are there meetings about these things? Any information will be appreciated. Franz Mock, Lederergasse 25, A-3500, Krems, Austria.

A. If anyone cares to share information with Mr. Mock, kindly do so. We don't know of anything devoted strictly to engines and dynamos, and we don't know of any shops in the U.S. that are still building machines of this type. We can tell you though that there are a great many shows and meetings about the general subject of vintage steam. Elsewhere in your letter you note that you will be in the U.S. this Fall, and that is the ideal time to see a great many shows here.

25/7/36 Homelite Chainsaw Q. Can anyone help me locate a parts source for a Homelite Model 7-29AS, s/n 624578 chain saw. I believe it was made between 1953 and 1957. Any information will be much appreciated. Charles M. Stone, E 4203-43rd Ave., Spokane, Washington 99223.

25/7/37 Ford 9N-2N Paint Q. Does anyone have the correct color formula for the Ford 9N-2N gray paint? Leonard Rahilly, 7760 Old M-78, East Lansing, Michigan 48823.

25/7/38 Witte Diesels Mr. 'Dave Diesel' Churbuck, PO Box A, Buzzards Bay, Massachusetts, 02532-1800 writes that he was the former East Coast Distributor for Witte Diesel until it became Lister in 1977. For those interested in information, etc., on Witte diesels, you might want to contact Mr. Churbuck. He will be starting a regular mailing list of owners and information if the Witte owners would like to find each other. Send along an SASE though.

25/7/39 Acadia Engine Q. See the photo of an Acadia 2 HP engine I recently acquired. Any information on the engine, including the proper color scheme, will be appreciated. David A. Crawford, 88 Academy St., Westfield, New York 14787.

A. Pages 9 and 10 of American Gas Engines have information on the Acadia line.

25/7/40 Lister Engine Q. Can anyone supply information on my Lister engine, ? HP, same as Brownwall 1 HP water cooled shown on page 67 of American Gas Engines, except mine is control governed with a small Webster and I have nothing like parts numbers 1 to 6 on the sketch. Would like to hear from anyone who can shed more light on the subject. Andre Radcot, 129 Clark Sherbrooke, Quebec, CanadaJ1J 2N4.

25/7/41 Magneto Parts I would like to hear from anyone who knows of a source of repair parts for IHC Type LA engine and the Wico AH magneto. Elmer Hallitt, PO Box 332, Elkton, Michigan 48731.

25/7/42 Panzer Garden Tractor Q. Bruce Hall, Rt. 90, KingFerry, New York 13081 would like to hear from anyone having info on a Panzer Lawn & Garden tractor built in Waynesboro, Virginia, It is a Model TZOB, s/n 76666.

25/7/43 Happy Farmer Tractor The photograph illustrates my father with his Happy Farmer tractor in 1919, two years before I was born. The tractor was a disaster! He said the only time it made him a happy farmer was on the day he sold it.

My father farmed with horses until 1936. By then I was 15 and horses and I didn't get along very well. That year he bought a Sears & Roebuck Bradley tractor. I think he got it cheap, as only 300 were built and production had already ended. It was a row-crop design with four speeds, a Waukesha engine, steel wheels, and a final drive like the Farmall. The tread could be adjusted by a telescoping arrangement between the differential housing and the final drive gear housing. I spent many hours operating and repairing the Bradley.

Who manufactured this tractor? Max F. Homfeld, RR 2, Box 697, St. Michaels, Maryland 21663.

25/7/44 Ottawa Q. Can anyone tell me the year built for an Ottawa log saw engine, s/n TE28763? Also the proper color scheme? In addition, how do I find the year built for a Williams Com Meal and Flour Mill outfit, No. 4122? It is illustrated on page 47 of the Fairbanks-Morse catalog, 80N. Wyland K. Reed, 1922 East Ivy Street, Mesa, Arizona 85203-2819.

A. So far as we know, there is no definite dating available for either of the above items.

25/7/45 Pease Engine? Q. See the two photos of what I believe to be a 5 HP Pease engine built at Goshen, Indiana. It uses a belt-driven fly ball governor. Would anyone with any information on this engine please contact me? It will be appreciated. Don Dutoi, Box 28, Wyatt, Indiana 46595.

A. The Pease engine is illustrated in American Gas Engines. Although the illustration there is a different view, we believe your engine very possibly could be of this make. If so, we would guess it to be very rare indeed.

25/7/46 FBM Pump Frank Baker, 418 East Zuni Dr., Flagstaff, Arizona 86001 has a Fairbanks-Morse 3 x 5' reciprocating pump. He would like to hear from anyone having information on this machine, including the proper color, etc.

25/7/47 Leader Engine David Hildebrand, RD 2, Box 453, Drums, PA. 18222 has a 4 HP Leader engine from Field Force Pump Company. It is s/n 3117. He would like to hear from anyone with information on this engine, particularly in regard to its age and the proper color scheme.

25/7/48 Information Needed Q. What is the meaning of the 'W' on the s/n of my IHC 'M' engine? After cleaning, I find no green paint, only black, and was wondering if any were originally painted this color?

Regarding a 1? HP Excelsior from Consolidated Gas & Gasoline Engine Company , it is different from the one shown on page 106 of American Gas Engines. The main frame is similar to the Witte. Can anyone tell me anything about this engine, including its original colors ? See the photos. Dennis J. Matthews, 401 North Harvard Ave., Ventnor, New Jersey 08406.

A. The 'W' is simply a manufacturers prefix. In the case of the 'M' engines, the prefix might code the fuel type or the magneto style.

Readers Write

DuPont and Other Finishes Several people wrote concerning the use of automotive enamels, acrylic enamels in particular. For the sake of explanation, DuPont Dulux is an alkyd enamel, Centari an acrylic, and Imron a polyurethane. From what we have heard, Centari or similar acrylics are becoming the most popular. For one thing, the acrylics are quite resistant to spilled gasoline. Paint manufacturers seem to be discontinuing the alkyd enamels, so in a few years it seems likely that acrylics will be the only choice if using an automotive finish.

The consensus also seems to be that in addition to finding a good 'paint man,' (a good paint dealer), another requirement is to find a good 'body man' or someone skilled in applying acrylic enamels. Again, the consensus seems to be that it's pointless to spend hours sanding, filling, and sanding in preparation for the finish, only to have a bad looking job with sags, runs, dirt specks, and many other problems that plague the painter. Acrylics require a certain skill in their application. Beyond this, the fumes are very hazardous, so once again we caution our readers to use an approved respirator when working with these materials. The gauze surgical masks at the corner five-and-dime won't give you anywhere near the protection you need!!!

25/3/20 Unusual Wrench A number of letters came in regarding this entry. There is a general agreement that it is an outboard motor wrench, and the pocket in the wrench is for extra propeller shear pins.

25/3/32 Unidentified Engine Donald G. Husek, 1927 Esquire St., Fairbanks, Alaska 99709 writes that this engine has many similar features to his 1910 Excelsior motor cycle engine. Don also writes:

My grandfather worked for Excelsior Motorcycle Company in Chicago in 1910 and 1911. Until 1910 the engine drive was a flat belt. In 1911 they went to a roller chain, and this was the first U.S. motorcycle to use a chain drive.

Don also would like to contact someone about the oil pressure gauge as used on a 1926 Cletrac, and would also like to hear from someone regarding a 3 HP Champion outboard motor of about 1940 vintage.

25/4/49 C. H. & E. Co. Several people wrote in saying that this company is still in operation, manufacturing various types of pumps. The address is: C. H. & E., 3849 Palmer Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53212.

25/5/4 Diamond Reo Kits A number of letters came in on this query. All were in agreement that this item was built in 1953 by the lawn mower division of Reo Motors in Lansing, Michigan. It was called a Troll about.

Duplex-Superior Some letters came in to tell us that indeed, Duplex at Superior, Wisconsin did not build any engines. They bought the engines on contract from various manufacturers and affixed their own nameplate, usually in addition to that of the original builder.

Model makers Corner

Galloway Model Glen Stanford, 202 E. Madison Ave., Fairfield, Iowa 52556 sends a photo of his 1/3 scale model of the 2? HP Galloway. Glen tells us it was made from scrap under the bench! See MM-1.

Perkins Model Bill DeBolt, 812C West Patapsco Ave., Baltimore, Maryland 21230 sends photos of his latest creation-a half scale model of the 2 HP Perkins vertical engine. Built in water and air cooled style, it uses a side shaft, a fly ball governor, and a low tension igniter. See MM-2 illustrating both styles.

Model Sawmill See MM-3 and MM-4 showing a one-inch scale of an 1882 J.I. Case sawmill. The mill is built of wood and cold-rolled steel. There are five carriage axles, three sliding head blocks for various log lengths, and set works that advance and recede. The feed is 0.025 inch per revolution of saw and gigback is 0.110 inch per revolution. The engine (MM-3) is a hit-and-miss model built from Cole castings. Dell R. Grupe, 3929 Globe Ave., Culver City, CA 90230.

A Closing Word

The last months have been busy ones for ye olde Reflector. Having finished a book on Minneapolis-Moline (scheduled for this fall by Motor books), and working on a J.I. Case history, there is little spare time. Also, there are ruminations of a 1991 trip to Australia, and you can bet that if at all possible, we'll be going! This summer we'll be working on a 4 HP IHC Mogul, plus some other items, as yet undetermined.

Recently we received some interesting history concerning the Toro Company at Minneapolis. Named as a Fortune 500 Company in 1988, Toro was organized in 1914 to build tractor parts for Bull Tractor Company. By 1920 their To-Ro cultivator was introduced, and a year later the company founded the first mechanical golf course maintenance. Home power mowers appeared in 1929, followed by rotary lawn mowers in 1948. The first Toro snow thrower appeared in 1951, and in 1956 Toro made history by being the first company in the lawn and garden industry to advertise on television. Many other 'firsts' have followed.

In our never ending barrage of paperwork, we are not sure of who sent us this material on Toro, but be sure of our appreciation!

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