A Brief Word

Wico EK condensers


Brad E. Smith

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With this issue, Gas Engine Magazine commences thirty years of history and information to the gas engine and tractor hobby. And what tremendous changes have taken place in the past thirty years! In 1964 it was entirely possible to buy a John Deere 6 horsepower engine for under $20! and an IHC Mogul sideshaft engine of almost any size could often be bought for $50 or less! About that time, this writer passed up a Rumely OilPull 30-60 Model S for $300. It just didn't seem like it was a good deal; after all, how would a person ever restore it and get his money back? Will the next 30 years see similar changes?

We're happy to report that at the very last moment, we received a pro posed itinerary from Rob Rushen Smith at Wade Farm Tours. As noted in the last issue, the 1995 Gas Engine Magazine tour is scheduled for September 9 through 23. The tour proposes to begin with a flight to Zurich, Switzerland and close with a return trip from London, England. Highlights include a stop at Winterthur, the Swiss Transportation Museum at Lucerne, and a visit to the Swiss Research Institute at Tanikon. The latter has been described by Dr. Louis Leviticus at the Nebraska Tractor Test Lab as 'one of the best exhibits he's ever seen.' We'd then go on to the German border town of Stuhlingen and overnight in the Black Forest area, with an evening visit to a private collection.

On September 12 we would have a morning drive through the Black Forest to Sindelfingen, visiting a private collection there. The next day would include a visit to the Mercedes-Benz factory, lunch at Stuttgart and an after noon visit to the Mercedes-Benz Museum. On September 14, we would be in Heidelberg, the 'Student Prince City.' Also on the agenda would be a visit to the Auto-Technik Museum at Sinsheim. On September 15 we'd go to the John Deere factory at Mannheim, then on to the German National Engine Research Station. A morning cruise on the River Rhine to Boppard, followed by a coach ride to Cologne would occupy September 16, and we will be visiting the Cologne Cathedral on Sunday, September 17. An after noon drive through the Ruhr Valley and to the Dutch town of Arnheim would complete the day. On Monday we would visit a private collection and transfer to Amsterdam for two nights. Tuesday and Wednesday would be in the area, with various activities, including a canal boat cruise in Amsterdam.

On Wednesday, we would then drive from Amsterdam through Belgium to Calais and take the new Channel Tunnel to Folkestone, England, and spend two nights in London. Thursday, September 22 would be a free day for sight seeing and shopping in London, and on Friday, we would begin the flight back to the United States.

It will certainly be a very busy two week s, not hectic, but active. Rob tells us that it's a bigger question of what to leave out of the tour, rather than what to include! For those who were on the 1993 tour to England, there will be considerable delight in knowing that if at all possible, Jackie Coggan will be ac companying Rob as a courier. Jackie is an expert tour guide, and her affable manner and delightful personality made our last tour a real pleasure. Also accompanying the tour will be Alex Skinner, who functioned as our resident engine expert on the previous journey. Again, many of you have already met Alex, and for those who haven't, he is a very personable and knowledgeable person.

It's simply too early in the game to provide exact cost figures. At this writing in early November, none of the airlines will book flights so far ahead. There's also the matter of exchange rates, and these fluctuate somewhat. However, it would appear that the two-week journey will come in at $2,500 -$3,000. This is slightly more expensive than the tour to England, but given two years time and the decidedly higher costs in Europe as compared to England, we think that Rob has come in at a very, very competitive price.

Those with suggestions or ideas concerning the proposed itinerary should contact: Gas Engine Tour, Gas Engine Magazine, Box 328, Lancaster, PA 17608.

If you are interested in this tour, please drop a line to the above address so that your name can be put on the mailing list. Over the next two or three months we hope that the itinerary will be finalized, and that the entire package will come together. Quite a number of the folks on the tour to England have expressed a desire to make the upcoming trip. We think this speaks very well of the fine organizational efforts of Rob and the entire Wade Farm Tours team. Regarding the last tour, even the seasoned travelers commented that it was one of the best, if not the best tour they had ever taken. So here it is folks. If you're interested, drop us a line or give us a call at (717) 392 -07 3 3 or send a tax to (717) 392-1341.

And, this issue should be in your hands in mid-December, so we take this opportunity to wish everyone a Happy and Joyous Holiday Season and the best possible New Year!

Our queries this month begin with:

30/1/1 Cushman Binder Engine Q. I have acquired a Cushman binder engine which I want to restore. What is the correct color of this engine? Roy W. Murray , 7431 North 73rd St., Longmont, CO 80503.

A. Our color listings show DuPont 93-62713-H as the correct color.

30/1/2 Information Needed Q. What is the year built for a Witte, s/n 86471 and a Fairbanks-Morse, s/n 811103? Zach Nagel, 9176S 380W, Rensselaer, IN 47978.

A. The Witte is 1929, the F-M is 1939.

30/1/3 International Feed Grinder Q. See the photos of an 8-inch International Harvester feed grinder that I purchased at the National Antique Gas Engine show in Utah this year. I'm sure that it's not complete, as the only picture I could find was in the book, 1 50 Years of Inter national Harvester. It is shown there on page 155 in the lower right comer. The belt on my feed grinder in placed on the unit by removing the legs and the bearing as shown in the picture.

Does anyone have any information on this feed grinder, such as operating instructions, a parts book, or other literature? I hope to have it restored and ready for demonstration with my 6 HP Root & Vandervoort engine, but I'm not sure my engine can handle the job. Any information will be appreciated. Donald R. Green, PO Box 618, Allyn, WA 98524-0618.

A. We've had some information on these grinders but find nothing now. Can anyone be of help.

30/1/4 Thanks to John R. Heath, 494 Twp Rd 232, Sullivan, OH 44880 for sending a photocopy of the Victor Traction Trucks, made by the Victor Traction Gear Co., Loudonville, Ohio. This was a chassis to which a farmer might mount his own gas engine. The Victor was made in several sizes, but we have no further information.

30/1/5 Unidentified Engine

Q. Can anyone identify the engine in the photo? If so, where can 1 obtain further information on it? Any help will be appreciated. Donald Hentges, 45719 - 263rd St., Humboldt, SD 57035-6822.

A. This is a Hercules. For further information and some excellent books on Hercules, contact: Glenn Karch, 20601 Old State Road, Haubstadt, IN 47639.

30/1/6 Termaat & Monahan Q. See the photo of a 1 HP T & M engine; these little engines are quite rare here in England. It appears on page 509 of American Gas Engines. Perhaps readers might like to know that most parts are available from a foundry over here. Could anyone advise me if decals are available for this engine, as well as its proper color? Thanking you in advance, T. J. M. Keenan, 'Ohope,' 23 Byron Avenue, Margate, Kent, CT9 1TU England.

30/1/7 Racine Sattley Q. See the photo of a 2 HP Racine-Sattley, as shown on pages 315 and 406 of American Gas Engines. I  got it from a fellow who found it on Grand Turk Island in the West Indies. Evidently, someone tried to disassemble it with a hammer, be cause many parts are broken or missing. I tried to locate parts through the classified with no success, and am now toying with the idea of fabricating the missing parts.

Can anyone give me an idea of the relative rarity of this engine? Since the entire governor is missing, will a governor from a later model Sattley work? Any information or assistance will be greatly appreciated. Woody Sins, 3 Edna Ter., New Hartford, NY 13413.

30/1/8 Monta Mower Company Q. I have a lawn mower made by the Monta Mower Co., Traverse City, Michigan, and patented on August 21, 1923. I  have no other information on it, and would appreciate hearing from anyone who is able to help. Joseph Calderaro, 89-12 - 121st St., Richmond Hill, NY 11418.

A. The patent in question is 1,465,279 issued to Hubert Howard Montague; see the Patent Office Gazette extract in illustration 30/1/8.

30/1/9 Witte Information Needed Q. I have a Witte 4 HP engine, s/n 56889. The engine is complete except for the magneto, and I was wondering if you could tell me what magneto was used on this engine. There is a factory magneto mounting bracket on the engine, but a Wico EK magneto will not fit on the bracket. Any help would be appreciated. Michael C. Williams, 726 Groff Ave., Elizabethtown, PA 17022.

A. Your engine was shipped on September 26,1921 to J. T.Geary, Route 1, Box 60, Harrisburg, Pa. It was equipped with a Bosch magneto.

30/1/10 Doyle Lawnmowers Q. See the two photos of Doyle lawnmowers. Both use the strange Doyle two-cycle engine. They were built by Doyle Manufacturing Corporation of Syracuse, New York. I would like to contact other owners of Doyle mowers or owners of ads or literature about them. Brad E. Smith, 7574 So. 74 St., Franklin, WI 53132.

30/1/11 Wico EK Condensers Having had problems with Wico EK condensers (and replacements for same), I took a good one to the local NAPA store and they matched it for the 1973 Ford pickup with the 360 engine. They both have the same mfd capacity. The NAPA number is FA825B. The condenser fits well in the EK magneto, as shown in the photo. I put a pigtail on the condenser ground using an 8-32 nut and screw. I do not solder any condensers. The NAPA version costs about $1.98 in our area. I hope this information might be helpful to others. Sam Spencer & Family, 1285-A Lovett Rd., Orange Park, FL 32073.

30/1/12 Information Needed Q. What is the year built for an International LA, 1-2 engine, s/n LAA 57223? Also an Alpha DeLaval engine, Type E-171, 1HP, sn/ 68119. Weren't the latter built by Sattley and sold through Montgomery' Ward or Sears & Roebuck? Is it possible to date these engines? Ron Shipley, 1642 County Rd M7, Emporia, KS 66801.

A. The IHC was built in 1940. There is no s/n information for the Alpha engines. First of all, DeLaval did not built their own engines, but used several different makes. How ever, the model built by the John Lauson Co., New Holstein, Wisconsin was by far the most popular. The Sattley engines were sold strictly by Montgomery Ward, and of course, Sears &. Roebuck sold their own Economy engine line, built by Hercules.

30/1/13 Information Needed Q.  Can you please provide manufacturing dates for the following engines:

Witte Special, s/n 96975, Witte 6 HP, s/n 54429, Fuller & Johnson Pump Engine, s/n 25000, Same, s/n 122595, Novo 6 HP, s/n 99971, Sattley 1, s/n 61016, Sattley 2 , s/n 26800, Any information will be appreciated. Pete Campbell, 586 Shoshone St., Grand Junction, CO 81504.

A. The Witte Special was made in 1937, and the 6 HP in 1921. The F &. J years are 1911 and 1927 respectively. No information is available for the other engines listed.

30/1/14 Unidentified Engine Q. See the photos of an unidentified engine. Any help in giving it a name, proper colors, approximate year built, etc. will be greatly appreciated. Selmer (Sam) Olson, PO Box 97, Scobey. MT 59263.

A. A brief perusal of American Gas Engines didn't bring it up for us, but we're thinking that it's buried somewhere in those 584 pages. We've never tried to commit all these things to memory. After researching some twenty five books over twenty five years, trying to hold everything in memory would require more megabytes than our brain has the capacity for. So, can anyone be of help on this question?

30/1/15 Ruston Decals Q. I am restoring a Ruston-Hornsby and a Fairbanks-Morse engine, both of which came out of elevators here in Western Canada. J would like to find decals for both. Can anyone provide this information? Also, would it be possible to compile a listing of decal suppliers? Peter Kaake, Box 338, Cabri, SASK SON OJ0 Canada.

A. Ruston decals used to be available from Ray Hooley in England, but we don't have his current address, or whether he still has them. Can someone provide this information? Also, the F-M engine didn't, at least to our knowledge, have any decals.

The supplies, decals, and equipment listing is an excellent idea, and in fact, we're planning to incorporate this in formation into the next edition of Wendel's Notebook.

30/1/16 Aluminum License Plates Q. Can anyone tell me the company that made aluminum license plates with engines on them? They advertised in GEM some years ago, and I would like to order more of these. Any information will be appreciated. James Caplinger, 493 Murray Hwy, Benton, KY 42025.

30/1/17 Lauson-Built Engine Q. I would like some information on a Lauson-built engine that was sold by Montgomery Ward. It is a Model 93LC5130E, s/n 83322, and Cat. No. 87-5130; 2300 rpm, and  5/8 HP. Can anyone provide the correct color, when it was made, or other information? John M. Edgerton, 603 Loon Lake Rd., Bigfork, MT59911.

Readers Write

29/9/20 Woodin & Little In response, Woodin & Little did not manufacture engines, but were jobbers who sold engines which were manufactured by other companies and attached a tag with their name and address on the base of the engine on the magneto side. I have a Waterloo Boy engine (1911) and have had several Hercules engine of the 1920s that had Woodin & Little tags. Apparently Woodin & Little sold engines during that time frame.

You state that your engine has a tag with 7EK and the s/n. This is an engine made by Hercules Engine Co., Evansville, Indiana in 1921. The 'E' denotes the model (made from 1914 to 1921), and the 'K' denotes that this is a kerosene engine and is throttle governed.

The proper color for your engine should be PPG 43822 green or DuPont 7666 Green. The engine should have red pin striping. Carl Mehr, 125513 Elnora Dr., Penn Valley, CA 95946.

A Closing Word

We didn't get a lot of mail this month, so we're including some additional trademarks that might be of interest. No. 1 is for the famous Farm Implement News. This was the first journal to gain real status among the farm implement dealers. Until they sold out in the 1950s, this was the magazine to have, not to the exclusion of all others, but certainly at the top of the heap.

No. 2 is for the famous Stromberg carburetors. A look at this applications indicates that 1931 was the first use, but we're not sure whether Stromberg was building carburetors prior to that time.

No. 3 is a Cummins trademark, going back to 1919 when they were building a revised version of the Thermoil engines No. 4 is the Rocket gasoline motor from Corporate Products Inc., at Detroit, Michigan. This one claims first use of 1944.

In 1920 De La Vergne filed for their trademark, indicating that they had been using it since 1881. This company was one of the pioneers in oil engines and diesels. See No. 5. The Samson trademark of Stover appears in No. 6; it goes hack to 1899. Another trademark of interest is No. 7 for the Willys Go-Devil engines, and No. 8 is a 1919 application of Massey-Harris. Note that this trademark is for implements only; there is no claim made for engines or tractors under this mark.

In mid-October we were at Cool-spring, Pennsylvania, for their Fall Closing, and to attend the Kim Foster/Matt Davis wedding in the Susong building on the museum grounds. Of course, the wedding was the most important part of the journey, but we certainly availed ourselves of the opportunity to inspect the many fine engines and to visit with many of the folks at the show. A special thanks to all the many helpful people who took the time to show us around, and a very special thanks to Preston Foster who took us over to the Heath pumping station. Watching those vintage Worthington engines do their job is indeed an impressive sight.

We were also quite impressed with the depth of study that these folks have done on the flame ignition engines. They have found that the engines operate quite well on hydrogen. For those who haven't stopped by Cool-spring, Pennsylvania and the Cool-spring Power Museum, we certainly recommend it, particularly if you enjoy seeing and hearing all kinds of engines, large and small, in operation. Although they more or less close down for the winter, it's a short diversion if you're taking Interstate 80 through Pennsylvania.

Volume 42 of the ASME Transactions (1920) includes the obituary of William T. Price in its Necrology Section.

Mr. Price was the chief engineer of the oil engine department for Ingersoll-Rand Co. at the time of his death, November 7, 1920. Mr. Price was born on September 28, 1883 in Montreal, Quebec. He graduated from Cornell University in 1906 with a Mechanical Engineer degree. His first employment was with the Wheeling Mold &. Foundry Co. as an assistant engineer, and in about a year he became works manager of the Contractors' Plant Manufacturing Co. In 1908 he went to the De La Vergne Machine Co. as a sales engineer, and during the next six years held the positions of sales manager, chief engineer of the power department and manager and chief engineer. At the time of his death he was actively associated with the Ingersoll-Rand Company as chief engineer of the oil engine department. Mr. Price was also vice-president of the Rathbun-Jones Engineering Co., Toledo, Ohio.

Volume 42 noted above also holds the obituary information on Louis J. Monahan:

Louis J. Monahan, president and general manager of the Universal Motor Co. died on February 3, 1920. Mr. Monahan was born on August 9, 1876 in Oshkosh, Wisconsin and in 1902 he associated with John D. Termaat in a number of inventions. They established the Termaat &. Monahan Co. to build experimental models of their engines, and these proving successful, they continued in this endeavor until 1913 when Termaat and Monahan both re tired from active management. The following year they established the Universal Motor Company, of which Mr. Monahan was the president at the time of his death. In addition to being a member of the ASME, Mr. Monahan also was a member of the American Chemical Society and the Society of Automotive Engineers.

In closing, please take note the 1995 Gas Engine Tour information at the beginning of this column. If you are at all interested, be sure to write, fax, or phone your interest to GEM so they can build a file when the finalized tour plans are ready to be mailed.