Rumely DoAll Tractors


Paul Sheldrick

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With this issue, GEM passes another milepost-the 25th year of publication. We know that all the folks at GEM are indeed proud of this achievement, and from this desk, ye olde Reflector is likewise happy to have been so fortunate as to be a part of the GEM family during the past few years.

From the 1920 volume of ASME Transactions we present some additional history of the Termaat & Monahan Company, and specifically on Louis J. Monahan. When the latter died on February 3, 1920 he was the president and general manager of the Universal Motor Company at Oshkosh, Wisconsin. Mr. Monahan was born at Oshkosh in 1876, and became associated with John D. Termaat in 1902. Their firm, Termaat & Monahan Company began building engines shortly thereafter, with the company remaining under their management until 1913. The following year Termaat and Monahan formed Universal Motor Company. A very talented individual, Mr. Monahan was a member of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers, the American Chemical Society, and the Society of Automotive Engineers.

Homer M. Motsinger, inventor of the Motsinger Auto-Sparker, also died in 1920. Motsinger was born in 1875 at Pendleton, Indiana. After studying at Purdue University for several years, Mr. Motsinger organized the Motsinger Device Manufacturing Company and was vice-president and general manager from 1900 to 1916. At that time Motsinger entered professional engineering work for two years, and then became works manager for the U. S. Ball Bearing Company. Early in 1920 he became a consulting engineer at Chicago, remaining in this area until his death.

From the 1921 ASME Transactions we learn that William H. Van Dervoort passed away in that year. In 1899 the latter, along with Orlando J. Root, formed the Root & Van Dervoort Engineering Company at Champaign, Illinois, moving two years later to Moline. Van Dervoort was the president and general manager of the engineering company, and also held the same positions with the Moline Automobile Company which he and Mr. Root organized in 1903. Van Dervoort was a widely recognized authority on mechanical engineering, and was the author of Machine Shop Tools and Shop Practice, a title which is now very difficult to locate.

We have a lot of correspondence this month, and we'll begin with:

25/1/1 Paint Colors Q. In your Allis-Chalmers Story you mention paint from Martin-Senour and American Parts, but no address was given. Can you advise where to obtain these brands?

Keith Goddard, RR 1, New Boston, MO 63557.

A. First of all, look in the Yellow Pages of cities near you-there is likely to be a dealer for one or the other. The NAPA auto parts stores are also a likely source, and again, we suggest letting your fingers do the walking. The addresses of these companies were not listed, since they do not sell direct to the consumer but through their dealer organization.

25/1/2 Engine Queries Q. Please send the year built on a John Deere J 1/2 hp, s/n 305620, a Me-Cormick'Deering3 hp, s/n BW6359, and a Stover CT-2, s/n TB1234. I also have a McCormick Deering 3 hp that uses the IHC low tension magneto with the igniter operated by its own rod linkage. The tag is missing, so any guess on year built? Was it earlier than the Type M listed above?

Paul Sheldrick, 20175 Taylor St., Weston, OH 43569.

A. The Deere is a 1928 model, the McDeering is 1925, and the s/n is incomplete on the Stover, lacking two digits. We would guess however, that it was built in the 1930s. The last mentioned 3 hp Type M is probably earlier than the one for which you supplied a number.

25/1/3 Rumely DoAll Tractors

See the above photos of Rumely DoAll in the standard position and also as a cultivator. For the benefit of those unacquainted with this machine, the tractor chassis is the same in both cases. For cultivating, the drive wheels are shifted to the forward position and the front axle is removed. These tractors are owned by James L. Keenan, 5717 North 90th St., Omaha, NE 68134.

25/1/4 John Deere L Tractor Q. I am in the quest for information on a Deere L tractor, s/n 622038. It has the unstyled brass radiator with John Deere embossed on the tank. Any information at all would be much appreciated.

 John Bohaty, 4271 Pearl Road, Medina, OH 44256.

25/1/5 Shop Fire

We have been informed that a fire was started by an overturned engine at the shop of Gerald Ziegler Sr., Waynesboro, PA in early October, 1989 . Word is that Mr. Ziegler was unloading a small engine and it tipped over, spilling out some gasoline. When he attempted to right the engine, a spark (perhaps caused by iron sliding on concrete) ignited the fuel and quickly destroyed the entire building.

If ye olde Reflector might comment: We harp ad infinitum on safety, and here's a sad story that began in a most innocent way. Don't gamble on anything. If those loading planks of yours would be better off as firewood, then this winter might be a good time to be rid of them and make up some better ones for next year's shows. And if gasoline is spilled, wash it down before doing anything else. In our locality, three people were seriously burned recently, and a shop destroyed, because it is said that they were using gasoline to clean up the shop floor. Whether from static electricity or some other cause, it ignited, and the rest is history.

25/1/6 R & V Air-Cooled Engnes Q. Can anyone provide information on the R & V vertical air-cooled engines as shown on page 434 of American Gas Engines? Any help will be appreciated.

Judson Tracy, Box 356, Carrington, ND 58421.

25/1/7 Lister Blackstone Q. Can anyone provide information on a Lister Blackstone diesel engine. It has no serial number, no name plate, and is quite heavy, weighing about 1400 pounds.

Art England, 204 - 216th SW, Bothell, WA 98021.

A. The Lister Blackstone is an English-built engine, and we are of the opinion that a substantial number were used in Canada. This make is rather popular in some parts of the world, so we are hopeful that some of our readers can lend a hand.

25/1/8 Endless Tread Garden Tracker Q.Floyd Gibson, 12427 Stottlemyer Rd., Myersville, MD 2 1 773 has one of the above captioned tractors, Pat. No. 2,529,369, s/n 758. It uses a Briggs & Stratton engine. This unit was built by Sam Beachy & Sons, Salisbury, Pennsylvania. Any information will be appreciated.

A. All we can tell you is that the above mentioned patent was issued on November 7, 1950 to Samuel A. Beachy at the above address. Application was filed on March 22, 1945. The original patent application shows a small tracklayer garden tractor equipped with a Maytag Model 92 engine.

25/1/9 Serial Numbers and Maytag Info Q. What is the year built of a Waterloo 1 1/2 hp, sl75627 and a Deere 3 hp, s/n 234503? Where are the serial numbers located on a Maytag Model 92M engine?

Gene Sutter, 14243 E. Buffalo, Gilbert, AZ 85234.

A. No serial numbers are available for the Waterloo engine; the Deere engine was built in 1923. Our recollection is that the flywheel rim has the Maytag s/n.

25/1/10 M-W Airline Charger-Generator Q. Any information will be appreciated on a Montgomery-Ward Airline Charger-Generator, 6 volt, Model 14K6630, s/n A-2513.

Richard Nielsen, 9122 W 66th PL, Arvada, CO 80004.

25/1/11 Hercules Engine? Q. I have an engine which appears to have been built by Hercules. The tag reads: s/n 7964, HP 2 1/2 XK. The flywheel has three round holes and it uses a Wico magneto. Any information will be appreciated.

William Cloutier, 404 South Huron Ave., Harbor Beach, MI 48441.

A. Your engine was built in 1928 or 1929. From A History of Hercules by Glenn Karch it appears that the 'X' designates the model, and the 'K' suffix indicates that this was built as a kerosene engine. The comparable gasoline model would have an 'XI' notation.

25/1/12 L. J. Wing engine Q. See the two photos of a Wing engine. Although it is not absolutely identical to the one shown on page 555 of American Gas Engines, it seems very unlikely that any two designers could have come up with this unusual design. The engine has a 5 inch bore and stroke, and is missing the carburetor. Anyone with some ideas should be sure to write.

Walt Celley, RR 1, Cabot, VT 05647.

A. We would suggest doing some experimenting with a Schebler or similar carburetor, especially since Schebler was used on a great many marine-style engines.

25/1/13 Unknown Engine Q. Can anyone identify the engine shown in the two photos? It has a 4 1/2 x 6 inch bore and stroke and 20 inch flywheels. The engine was run at least some during its life, but now that it is mounted on skids, it kicks like a mule. Any help will be appreciated.

Joe Kessler, 283 Neponset St., Canton, MA 02021.

25/1/14 Parts Cleaning Machine Q. See the above photo of a ZENITH INSTR-MET parts cleaning machine. It has base dimensions of 22 x 26 inches, and from the center of the base there extends a round column that is two inches in diameter and 27 inches high. This column supports the motor, reduction gear and parts basket. It is exactly like a large version of a mechanical watch cleaning machine that was used before the ultrasonic cleaners came along.

Although I own and operate watch and clock cleaning machines, I need literature and information on this one to help with maintenance and information regarding solutions used in this machine. Will appreciate any information that anyone can supply.

John W. Lewis, 4386 N. Five Mile Rd., Route 3, Williamsburg, MI 49690.

A. Look at a similar engine on page 383 of American Gas Engines. We would suggest that the design stems from Parsell & Weed, although it does not necessarily follow that they built this engine. In fact, their turn-of-the-century book, Gas Engine Construction, details how to build a similar engine. We believe it is entirely logical therefore, that the castings and drawings might have been supplied by Parsell & Weed's Franklin Model Shop in New York City. Another possibility remains that the engine could have been developed, patterns, castings, and all, by some enterprising machinist, using plans from Parsell & Weed.

25/1/15 Faultless Engine

Barney Williams, 531 W. 45th, Joplin, MO 64804 needs information on a Faultless 2 hp, built by Faultless Engine Company at Kansas City.

25/1/16 Fairway 12 Tractor Q. I have a Fairway 12, s/nFOS-1624. Did IHC put out a special book on this tractor, or is there anyone having information on the Fairway models. Any replies will be appreciated, especially from other Fairway owners.

Duane Hildebrand, RR 2, Box 453, Drums, PA 18222.

25/1/17 Holland Engine Q. I have recently acquired a Holland Machine Co. engine, originally sold to Charles J. Jager Co., probably for a cement mixer. We found out by the Webster magneto bracket number (303M42) that it takes a Webster magneto and igniter. I would appreciate hearing from anyone having one of these engines or the magneto bracket so that I could use these dimensions to fabricate the parts needed to put the engine back to its original condition.

Greg Dewhurst, 87 Bridge St., E. Bridgewater, MA 02333.

25/1/18 Gade Engine Q. I have a Gade 2 1/2 hp engine with spark plug ignition and the old style cast iron mixer with the holes around the bottom. It has two ports, one at the rear of the cylinder, and another at the exhaust valve. If a muffler is attached, where is it secured?

Also, does a constantly running magneto, as on an air-cooled Chore Boy engine, require timing to the points? If so, how is this accomplished?

Will Keister, 6165 Contreras Road, Oxford, OH 45056.

A. Regarding your first question, Gade claimed that no exhaust muffler was necessary from the head-end port, since its basic purpose was to relieve the pressure of the returning piston. The threaded port at the back end of the cylinder carried away the exhaust gases and the heat of the power stroke. This concept was the basis of the Gade air-cooled design, since they believed that by using the auxiliary port and releasing the heat at the end of the stroke, much less cooling effect was required than in the conventional method of wiping the cylinder with the exhaust gases on the exhaust stroke of the piston. So in answer to your question, the muffler goes on the cylinder port, and none is needed at the valve port, since all that is left is air and the remaining exhaust gases.

So far as timing a gear driven magneto is concerned, if the magneto was original equipment, there should be timing marks to indicate the proper mesh of the gear teeth. There are only two points in each revolution of the armature where the magneto discharges its maximum current. If the magneto has push pins on the rear endplate, then first note the direction that the magneto turns, and if the gear runs toward letter 'L' then press in on the pin near that letter on the backplate, and slowly turn the magneto until it drops into a slot in the inside mechanism of the magneto. Now lower the magneto back onto its bracket and into mesh with the timing gear. Of course it is necessary to first turn the crankshaft in its direction of travel so that it rests about 10 degrees ahead of the inner dead center. Sometimes it will still be necessary to move the gear one or two teeth ahead or back so as to get the best spark.

If there are no visible marks, we have resorted to the following plan: First set the engine to its inner dead center, or just a trifle earlier. Now take a jumper wire and short out the magneto terminal to the base. Turn the armature and feel where the greatest pull is achieved, and having arrived at this, set the magneto down onto the timing gear. Remove the cylinder head completely, so as to be able to see the breaking of the points, either directly, or by use of a mirror. Now with the magneto in this initial 'cut-and-try' position, crank the engine over by hand and see what kind of spark you are getting. Experiment a bit by setting the magneto gear ahead or back a tooth at a time. This is admittedly the hard way to get results, but once timed to the engine, there is no further need to worry, and should it be necessary to remove the magneto, marking the teeth of both gears will insure getting it back in the same position.

25/1/19 Kohler Electric Plants Q. I have two Kohler electric plants, and both are in excellent shape, including original paint. Can these engines be dated? I am guessing that these engines were built in the 1930s.

Todd W. Kuhns, PO Box 142, Kingman, KS 67068.

A. We suggest you contact Kohler Company, Kohler, Wisconsin. They may be able to date the engine for you, and possibly might be able to supply photocopies of service manuals etc.

25/1/20 Hot Tube Ignition Q. After reading the October, 1989 article in GEM concerning hot tube ignition, I would like to know why engineers of the 1890s and later seemed to prefer this method of ignition over other forms then available.

Robert Mayeux, 2204 Comanche, Sulphur, LA 70663.

A. Perhaps as an oversimplification, hot tube ignition became very popular, simply because it was the most dependable system of the time. Spark plugs as we know them were scarcely developed, and reliable low tension (ignitor) ignition was likewise unreliable, especially because of the poor quality of then-available batteries. The hot tube method of ignition was, on the other hand, entirely self-contained, and about the worst that could happen was the occasional blowout of the redhot tube. Thus, the hot tube system was but one of a series of steps toward the development of reliable ignition methods.

25/1/21 Nilson Tractors Q. I would appreciate hearing from anyone with information of any kind on the Nilson tractors, along with the specifications of the Waukesha engines used in the 20-40, 24-36, and 15-30 models.

Gary Oechsner, N-8594, Bancroft Rd., Theresa, WI 53091.

25/1/22 Vaughn Motor Works

Art Biagi, RR 2, Bx 227, Centralia, IL 62801 would like to hear from anyone with information, including the proper color scheme for an engine from Vaughn Motor Works, Portland, Oregon.

25/1/23 Strauble Engine Q. See the photo of a marine engine with the following nameplate information: Strauble Machine Co., s/n 651, 10 hp, made in Green Bay, Wisconsin. It appears to have been blue or blue- green in color. Any information on this company or its engines will be appreciated.

John Knoll, S. 85 W. 28188 Hartwig Ave., Mukmonago, WI 53149.

25/1/24 Engines & Letterpresses Q. In the November, 1989 issue you made comment regarding the hobby of letterpress printing, and it brought back a lot of memories of how gas engines and letterpresses were related when I was a youngster. Our shop was set up in the early 1900s by my grandfather, using gas engines for power. It continued to be run this way until about the mid- 1940s. There was a 60 foot line shaft with a clutch in the middle, and a gas engine at each end. The clutch was so you could run either half of the shaft, or in an emergency, engage the clutch and run the whole shop with the other engine. In the mid-1940s an electric motor replaced the engines, but one of the engines is still in place, although the shafting has been removed.

Belted to the shaft was a Cranston newspaper press, folding machine, two Intertypes, a 10 x 15 Peerless job press and an 8 x 12 Chandler & Price letterpress. It was quite a sight to see all of that running. My grandfather died in 1954, and my father sold the newspaper, but kept the job printing department. We still have both the engines, the Peerless press, and still use the Intertype daily. The Peerless is belted to one of the engines, just for fun.

Edgar Woodward Jr., Conway Publishing Co., 327 Main St., Conway, SC 29526.

A. It's always interesting to hear about the applications of the gas engine. Truly, virtually everything now run by electric motors was once operated by a gas engine, or in some cases, by steam power.

25/1/25 The New-Way in Holland Q. See the photo illustrating a New Way engine recently obtained by one of our club members. It is a very rare engine in this part of the world. We would appreciate help from any of the GEM readers who might know something of the New-Way.

Wouter van Gulik, Trompweg 1, 7441HN Nijverdal, Holland, Europe.

25/1/26 Hercules XK Engine Q. See the photo of a Hercules XK, 2 1/2 hp engine, and would like to know about when it was built. Any information will be appreciated.

Tom Norwood, T & J Small Engine, RD 1, Box 229D, New Berlin, NY 13411

A. For answer, see 25/1/11 above.

25/1/27 IHC Type M Engine Q. What is the year built of an IHC Type M engine, s/n 294341 David Surdi, 16349 Lynch Road, Holley, NY 14470.

A. 1920.

25/1/28 Buda Engines Q. Can anyone supply information on a Buda YRH power unit, s/n 215696A?

Allan Curtis, Box 191, Arthur, Ontario N0G 1A0 Canada.

A. As noted in The Allis-Chalmers Story, Buda Company was bought out by Allis-Chalmers in the early 1950s. Thus, much of the specific Buda history is long gone, and with the shutdown of the Harvey Works, little at all remains. Hopefully however, some of our readers might have some information on the above engine.

25/1/29 Doodlebugs Q. Can anyone supply any information on the 'doodle bugs' made and/or sold by the Gamble Stores? When were they built, and what was the color scheme. I have one I plan to restore, so all replies will be appreciated.

Justin Moffet, 309 E. Depot, Knoxville, IL 61448.