Unidentified Engine


Daryl Voshell

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Well folks, it's here! Of course, we're talking about the New Year of 1993. We're also talking about the full information on the Engine Extravaganza set for June of 1993. Wade Farm Tours has finalized plans for the two-week tour to England that will include a day at the famous Tatton Park Rally. We'll not bore you with the full itinerary and other details, but suffice it to say that we simply can't conceal our joy at the prospect of spending two glorious weeks in England.

It's a real plus that Wade Farm Tours has secured Mr. Alex Skinner as our resident expert for the tour. Alex has been here in the States numerous times, and many of you have met him on his visits. Between Mr. Skinner's expertise and the services of a Wade Farm Tours courier, our visit should be just like being among old friends, except of course, in a foreign country.

At the present time, ye olde Reflector is securing a passport. What a rigmarole! A certified copy of your birth certificate is required. Don't give them your original birth certificate, or you'll end up without it ... they keep it! So, if you plan to make the trip, better get a copy. Here in Iowa, this involves going to the courthouse in the county of your birth, or sending a small fee to the state for a copy. However, if you don't have a passport, this is required, and all these things take time!

Wade Farm Tours has presented a very competitive price for the tour . . . we've talked to several people, and even a couple of local travel agencies, and all agree that the price is very reasonable. As previously indicated in GEM, if you want additional information, or the complete brochure, contact GEM at (717) 392-0733 or drop them a line at P.O. Box 328, Lancaster, PA 17603.

Ye olde Reflector is looking for photographs of gas engines running printing presses. Companies like Otto Gas Engine Works frequently advertised their engines for this purpose, but rarely have we seen any photos of a gas engine belted to an old Gordon snapper press. At this same time, we also wish to thank the many people who have sent us photographs, instruction manuals, catalogs, and other information over the past year. This is greatly appreciated.

Also, if you've come up with original color schemes and other information on engines and tractors, kindly send it along for the new edition of our Notebook coming out in 1993. Goodyear sponsored an interesting and informative Restoration Guide in cooperation with Successful Farming magazine during 1991. It includes additional information, but there is much more to be located yet. For instance, color information is indefinite on the Twin City and the early Minneapolis tractors, along with the Avery and the Wallis.

This brings up another question. One of our readers contacted ye olde Reflector recently, regarding a 1929 McCormick-Deering 10-20 tractor. On stripping it, he found it to be the same drab olive green as used some years earlier on the IHC Mogul tractors. Nowhere was any gray paint to be found. Could it have been ordered with an olive green finish, or was this a fluke to use up some leftover paint? So, if you can share any information on color schemes and other pertinent information, kindly send it along.

Thanks to the GEM reader who sent us some information on the Busch-Sulzer engines awhile back. We didn't get his name while on the phone, nor did he leave his return address on the package, so we are unable to thank this individual for his kindness, but whoever he is, our thanks anyway!

Our queries this month begin with:

28/2/1 Christensen Sideshaft Q. What is the correct color scheme for the Christensen sideshaft engine, and what is the approximate manufacturing date of a 10 HP model, s/n 3756? Chuck Whittington, 103 Woodland Court, Tullahoma, TN 37388.

A. These engines were built approximately between 1911 and 1917. We believe that DuPont 93-6202 green is an approximate match, together with yellow or bright gold striping. Some concept of the striping is shown on page 99 of American Gas Engines.

28/2/2 Fuel Pump Diaphragms Q. I have several engines using diaphragm fuel pumps, but they leak. Fuel pump rebuilders tell me these pumps are obsolete and not rebuildable. Is there a source of this material available so 1 can repair these fuel pumps myself? Any advice will be appreciated. Lanny Roth, RR 2, Box 289, Chippewa Falls, WI 54729.

A. Can any of our readers suggest a source for this material, or do any of our advertisers stock it? We get this question quite often. Occasionally, ye olde Reflector has resorted to taking an old fuel pump apart and retrofitting the diaphragm to another pump. It's somewhat of a job, but it can be done.

28/2/3 Waterloo Boy Engines Q. I have two Waterloo Boy engines. One has 12 HP stamped on the plate, and it is considered to be of about 1912 vintage. The other has no name tag, but is a kerosene model of about 1920 vintage. Both have the same 6 x 12 inch bore and stroke, with 36 inch flywheels. All other parts seem to match except that the water hoppers are different. What is the rated r.p.m. for the 12 HP, and at what speed should the kerosene model be run? Jim Case, 7301 Delta Lane, Charlotte, NC 28215.

A. Both were probably rated at 250 to 300 r.p.m.

28/2/4 Maytag Washing Machine Q. I have a wooden Maytag complete with upright gas engine. It is all original. The decal on the tub says, 'The Swinging Wringer.' A decal on the tub says, 'The Maytag Multi-Motor Washer' and was last patented on March 9, 1915 under No. 1,131,466. The engine is like that produced in the 1914-23 period.

I would like to do a partial restoration, but have information only on the aluminum square tubs and the twin cylinder Model 72 and single cylinder Model 92 engines. Would anyone have literature on the wooden Maytag washer models that might be of help, as well as the proper paint scheme? Rod Albright, 2194 Log Cabin Road, York, PA 17404. A. Can anyone be of help?

28/2/5 Unidentified Engine Q. See the two photos of an engine I bought at auction. The muffler and crank are missing. It has no valves, just ports, and the shroud is the fuel tank. The carburetor is a Zenith patented in 1908. Attached is a Homelite 32-40 volt generator, 10-12 amps. The magneto is a Simms. Daryl Voshell, 225 SW Des Moines St., Ankeny ,IA 50021.

A. Engine identifiers, what is this one?

28/2/6 Unidentified Engine Q. Can anyone identify the marine engine shown in the photos? There are no identifying numbers. The rotor is missing on the timer, and I need help in getting the dimensions thereof. Sam Benson, RD 6, Box 141, Elmer, NJ 08318.

A. If you can help Mr. Benson, kindly do so.

28/2/7 Novo Engine Q. See the photos of a Novo Rollr engine. It was not running when I got it, but after a few problems were fixed, it runs great. Any information on this engine will be greatly appreciated. Bob Broome, 25 Washington St., Mendon, MA 01756-1018.

A. The Novo Rollr engine used roller bearing mains, making it a nice running engine. If you can help Bob in any way, drop him a line.

28/2/8 R & V Colors Q. I have an R & V engine, 4 HP, s/n OL27622. What is its age, and what is the color scheme? Milo Stichal, RR 1, Box 212, Clarissa, MM 56440.

A. We have Martin-Senour 99L-20561 Green listed as the proper color. A combination of yellow and black or gold and black striping was used.

28/2/9 Unidentified Engine Q. Can anyone identify the engine in the photos? The engine is about 17 inches high, and the flywheels are about 8? inches in diameter. An American Bosch magneto is used. The original carburetor is missing, so I'd like to hear from anyone who knows what was used. Any information at all will be appreciated. Dave Dickinson, 6190 Keller Avenue, Newfane, NY 14108.

A. Again, if anyone can be of help, please contact this query.

28/2/10 M-W Garden Tractor Q. I cannot find anything close to the garden tractor to the left of the photo. On the motor nameplate: Montgomery Ward Model 14LC50261, s/n A43229, Cat. No. 87-50261, 2400 r.p.m., 1 HP. Lausen is cast into the engine block. Any information on this model will be appreciated. Raymond L. Gray, 740 Honeymoon Hill, Gatlinburg, TN 37738.