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Twin Fan 'Rival' Thresher

Twin Fan 'Rival' Thresher.

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If this month's issue comes to you a couple of days late, it's probably the fault of ye olde Reflector. We've been in the finishing stages of our book, American Farm Implements, and we were so determined to get it done that we delayed the column for a couple of days. However, we're most happy to report that the project is now completed, with over 130,000 words and over 2,100 illustrations. It will be published by Krause Publications at Iola, Wisconsin, and probably will be released in August or September.

There were many times during our compilation of the farm implement book that we wondered if we would ever see light at the end of the tunnel. For example, we love threshing machines, but it took several days just to complete this particular section of the book. We had hoped to include a cross-listing of trade names, but discovered that's a project that will take weeks on end, just to do the keyboarding. Perhaps the next edition?

Ever since returning from the Australian tour, it's been virtually non-stop work on this project, so in order to avoid interruptions, we often left the answering machine take calls, and have found little time to answer letters etc. Now that the project is done, perhaps life will assume a bit of normalcy once again.

Speaking of threshing machines, take a look at the engraving of an early Pitts Twin Fan Rival Thresher from Pitts Agricultural Works, later known as Buffalo Pitts Company at Buffalo, New York. This machine was built in several sizes and used two separate fans to clean the grain.

32/8/1 Chain Saws Q. See the two photos of chain saws. Photo 1A shows an I.E.L. saw from Industrial Engineering Ltd., at Vancouver, Canada. It is 5 HP, and s/n F7838. The saw in 1B was made by Power Machinery Ltd. at Vancouver. Any information on these saws would be appreciated. Bruce Heppler, Box 523, Covelo, CA 95428.

32/8/2 Monitor Engine Q. I am restoring a Monitor 6 HP engine that has been in my family since the early part of the century. My grandfather used it at Kalispell, Montana, to cut wood that was unloaded by rail for the local homesteaders. Any help would be appreciated, including the original colors. Warren Michaelis, 4440 Pleasant Crl Rd, Olympia, WA 98516.

32/8/3 Garden Tractor Q. See the photos of an antique garden tractor for which I need information. It uses a Wisconsin AKN motor with a gear reduction, and a hand clutch. The transmission is a 3-speed Plymouth, and the rear end is believed to be a narrowed Plymouth, along with Plymouth wheels and hubcaps. The tractor was painted green with orange wheels. Can anyone provide any information regarding this tractor? Pat Wiesmore, 1241 Indian Church Rd., West Seneca, NY 14224.

32/8/4 National Mower Co. Q. See the copy (32/8/4) from a 1937 brochure of National Mower Company, St. Paul, Minnesota. I haven't seen this one anywhere, and thought someone might be able to provide further information. George Tincknell, 66291 Mound Rd., Washington, Ml 48095.

32/8/5 Stover CT Engine Q. What is the correct color scheme for the Stover CT-2 engine? The first layer is red, maybe a primer, the second layer is a dull green, and the top is gloss black. Any information would be appreciated. Robert L. Adams, 944 North Ave., Escondido, CA 92026-8555.

A. The green color of the CT engines varies somewhat, probably because during the Depression they tried to buy the paint as cheaply as possible. However, DuPont GS188 or Ditzler 44616 seem to be a fair compromise. Not all were striped, but when used, it was a combination of bright red and gold, dual lines, red on the outside and gold on the inside.

32/8/6 Marmon Engine Q. See the two photos of a Marmon automobile air cooled OHV gas engine made in the early 1900s. Marmon also made air cooled V-6 and V-8 engines. If anyone is aware of any parts or complete engines in any condition, it would be appreciated. Even if the engine is not for sale, we would enjoy talking to the owner and documenting the example for others to enjoy in the Marmon Club. Dave Eberwein, 528 Lambert Lane, Englewood, Ohio 45322.

32/8/7 Ohlsson & Rice Q. See the two photos of a 2-cycle engine with a 1 -inch bore and stroke. It was made by Ohlsson & Rice Inc., 3340 Emery St., Los Angeles 23, California. Pat. No. 2,838,035. It was belted to a Jacuzzi-Minijet pump rated @120 gph with a 30 foot head. What is the year and horsepower? The diaphragms in the carburetor, also Ohlsson & Rice, are hard. Can anything be done to soften and reuse them? Ray Gray, 2135 Little Valley Rd., Sevierville, TN 37862

32/8/8 Detroit Engine Q. I have a Detroit engine similar to the photo 321317a & b, March 1997 GEM. The engine was imported into Penzance, England, originally and was set up to run on town gas. Have had it firing a few times, but need information to get this engine running again. Any help would be appreciated. William Hewett, Roseanne, Whitegates, St. Dennis, St. Austell, Cornwall, England PL26 8DT. E-mail HEWETT@AOL.COM.

32/8/9 Centaur Tractor Q. Can anyone provide the correct color scheme for the Centaur Model KU-22 tractor? It is the model with the mounted mower. Any information would be appreciated. Robert E. Zimpel, Rt 2, Box 16, McGrath, MN 56350.

A. We don't have the Centaur listed in our Notebook, so we'd also like to know.

32/8/10 Aerothrust Engine Q. See the photos of an engine I recently purchased. It is s/n 1197 and was built by Aerothrust Engine Co. at Chicago, Illinois. It is slightly different than the one pictured on page 14 of American Gas Engines; this engine was also made at Portland, Indiana. Any information would be appreciated. Wally Bellows, 3761 N. Lincoln Rd., Las Vegas, NV89115.

32/8/11 Climax Engines H. Rossow, PO Box 15, Weston, ID 83286 would like to know more about Climax engines, specifically a Model KU, Type 37. This is a large engine with a flat pulley on it, that probably was used to run a big pump or a sawmill.

32/8/12 IHC Tom Thumb Q. I have a Tom Thumb engine almost restored, but the insulated timing mounting on the brass timing lever is gone. I would appreciate a photo or drawing of the original mounting so I can make one. Dane L. Fuchs, 1700 Ash Ave., New Salem, ND 58563.

32/8/13 Franklin Valveless Q. See the photo of a Franklin Valveless engine, size 11 x 12, Type YS, sin 2164. The last patent date is 1920. Can anyone tell me the approximate year built, and the correct paint color? Also, can anyone help with the engine-clutch setup? Joe Dudek, 75 Dudek Road, Jewett City, CT 06351.

32/8/14 Myrick Eclipse Q. J recently purchased a Myrick Eclipse 4 HP engine, s/n 1458, vertical hot tube style. I would like to correspond with anyone having one of these engines, any literature, or other information on Myrick Machine Co., Olean, New York. I will gladly reimburse the cost of copying and postage. Paul Gray, 3437 Blue Ball Rd., North East, MD 21901

32/8/15 Witte Engine Q. See the photo of my son Alex, and my 2 HP Witte engine, s/n B7565. Can you tell me the year built and the proper color? Last year I saw another Witte of the same model, but with a cast iron crank fender. In the picture, my son is pointing to a lug cast on the water hopper. What is its purpose? Paul C. Van Sickle, 3672 Porterville Hill Rd., East Aurora, NY 14052.

A. Your engine was made in 1923. Your engine is dark green, similar to DuPont 5204 Forest Green. The lug is for a sheet metal crank fender that bolted there and hooked over the bottom of the crankcase at its back side.

32/8/16 Folding Sawing Machine Q. See the illustration of a Folding Sawing Machine. We have one of these, and have since run across another. We thought this might be of interest to anyone who has run across one of these interesting designs. Lloyd & Cheryl Jones, Rt J, Box 297, Salmon, ID 83467.

A. In our American Farm Implements book now awaiting publication, there'll be a picture of this outfit, with ours coming from an 1895 German language edition of American Agriculturist.

32/8/17 F&J pumping engines Q. What might the vintage be of a trio of Fuller & Johnson pumping engines? One has a plain flywheel, the other two are fancy. One has s/n 32104, the other 48525, and the last does not have a plate. Is there anything to the talk that these engines were produced by someone else? Charles Balyeat, 332 Stephens Loop, Mathis, TX 78368.

A. One is 1913, the second is 1915, and production went at least to 1932. Several companies in Australia made the F&J pumper under their own name.

32/8/18 Unidentified Engine Q. See the photos of an unidentified engine recently acquired. It has no name, no tag, and the serial number of G J 0606. I could not find it in American Gas Engines. Any help would be appreciated. Bob Roller, Box 579, Hythe, Alberta, T0H 2C0 Canada.

A. That's a Wiscona Pep from Wiscona Pep Motor Co., a successor to Termaat &. Monahan. Some reports have it that all these engines were exported, but a few show up in the U.S., and besides, the Wiscona Pep was advertised in Farm Implement News among other places. A tank goes on each side of the hopper.

32/8/19 Ferro Engine Q. See the photos of a 3 HP Ferro marine engine. I would like to thank Mr. Stranko for the 1910, 1911, and 1912 catalog photos. From these, I see this carb first appearing in 1912. The older ones seem to have the carb fixed to a twin as on page 171 of American Gas Engines. I'm curious as to the linkage arrangement wherein the timer is attached to the top of the choke plate shaft, the bottom of which has a rod working the throttle. The nameplate is gone, but at least they left the screws. Does anyone have a rubbing to offer, or operating procedures? All correspondence answered. Charles Balyeat, 332 Stephens Loop, Mathis. TX 78368.

32/8/20 Powerlite Electric Plant Q. I have volunteered to restore this Montgomery Ward 115 VAC, 1000 watt electric plant for the Georgetown, Colorado, Energy Museum. Would appreciate any information regarding the manufacturer and when built. An instruction manual or copy would be very much appreciated for the restoration and the museum display. John E. Martin, 325 Ammons St., Lakewood, CO 80226-1325.

32/8/21 A Titan Engine? Q. Recently I acquired an IHC engine which I think is a Titan or a Famous. The serial number is GFVC 15536, and the flywheel is about 15 inches. It is hopper cooled with a brass connecting rod. It originally had an igniter, but has been changed to spark plug. I would like to obtain any information on this engine, and may be contacted at: Joseph A. Krzemien, 12931 Buffalo Rd., Springville, NY 14141.

A. The VC serial number is for a 1 HP Famous engine; we don't know the meaning of the prefix letters. The engine was made in 1913.

32/8/22 Mustang Tractor Q. See the picture of a Mustang Riding Tractor made by Quaker Power at Carlstadt, New Jersey. Any operating or service information on this tractor would be much appreciated. Alice Holmes, 97 Red Mill Road, Peekskill, NY 10566.

32/8/23 Three Phase Converters David Leon Montgomery, 2575 Co. Rd. 261, Florence, AL 35633 sends along a schematic of a setup he has used since 1982 to run three phase motors on single phase power. The terminal board shown is not necessary but makes the final results neat. If preferred, a sheet metal box can be purchased for installation of the components. The information on the schematic concerning the capacitors and relay are exactly as they appear on the components in my setup. This unit supplies power to a mill that has a 2 HP 3 phase motor. Perhaps another collector can give capacitor and relay values for other motor sizes.

32/8/24 Charging Set Q. See the photos of a generator set made in England by Cherry's (Surrey) Ltd., Richmond, Surrey, England. It uses a Burgess Dry type Air Filter from Hinckley, England. It is a small engine of about 1 horsepower, probably war surplus, of heavy construction, and painted olive green. It is missing the gas tank, cylinder shroud, and something around the generator, perhaps a control panel of some sort. Any information would be appreciated. Woody Sins, 3 Edna Ter, New Hartford, NY 13413.

32/8/25 IHC Engine Q. I have an International Harvester stationary engine, s/n 88251. Can you tell me the horsepower and the year built? Harold Langbehn, Box 453, Dysart, 1A 52224.

A. Without the prefix letters or the horsepower, we can't tell you with certainty, but if it is an AW prefix, then it is a 1 HP model of 1929. Besides, the production numbers didn't get that high on the 3, 6, and 10 HP Type M engines. We're guessing a bit, not having seen the engine.

32/8/26 Fuller & Johnson Q. See the photo of a Fuller & Johnson Model NC ,2 HP engine. Need the original paint color and trim. The remaining paint appears to be a dark green. Does anyone know of a source for a manufacturer's quality photo or half-tone image of the original engine? Any help will be appreciated. Steven L. Carter, 6 Vincennes Ct., Charlottesville,VA2291l.

A. The F&J green is a dark shade, like New Idea Green, also comparable to DuPont l 317 or Ditzler 3255.

32/8/27 Massinic Phipps Engine Q. I have a Massinic Phipps Model C four-cylinder engine, s/n 134 of about 1907 vintage. It was made at Detroit, Michigan. Any information on this engine would be greatly appreciated. Richard McCarley, 3621 Clime Rd., Columbus, OH 43228.

32/8/28 Atkinson Differential Engine Q. My name is Wince Gingery and I represent David ]. Gingery Publishing. We unite and publish 'how-to' books. We recently finished a manual on how to build a version of the Atkinson Cycle engine, and we have also had quite a few inquiries about the Atkinson Differential engine of the 1880s. Can anyone help us find additional information on this design? Any help will be gratefully appreciated. Vince Gingery, David J. Gingery Publishing, PO Box 75, Fordland, MO 65652.

A. There are several early books that discuss the Atkinson Differential Engine, so finding further information should not be a large problem. In addition, Vince sent us a copy of his book, Building the Atkinson Engine. Although some model makers may not be thrilled with the Gingery design it has some modern-looking features such as Allen cap screws most model makers will be able to use this book to their advantage, while picking up some interesting solutions to common model making problems. It's always refreshing to see the history of the gas engine being preserved, not only by full-sized restorations but by some of the beautiful models appearing in recent years.

A Closing Word

As many of you know, ye olde Reflector is also a printer besides being a writer, occasional househusband, lawn care specialist (our own), weed digger-outer, and numerous other titles. Anyway, one of our good friends in Michigan took up the wonderful art of wood engraving several years ago, and does some terrific work. He also has a great interest in the preservation of old iron, as well as other parts of our technological past. The suggestion was made that we collaborate on doing a fine press book on some aspect of the hobby. He would do the engravings, and we would do the printing of a small book on fine of those small press books we hear about and seldom see. Most of these are rarely printed in an edition of more than 300 or 400 copies, and the majority of them usually sell for several times their first cost within months of being released. Books like this are printed by letterpress, using hand-set type or possibly Linotype. The paper is usually a hand-made or an expensive mould-made variety, always expensive, and of archival quality. Binding is usually farmed out to a specialty binder, and sometimes even with a slipcase. We'll have to think about the idea for awhile, and meanwhile, if any of you would have any interest at all in a book of this kind, please drop me a line here at the Reflections column . . . we'll be happy to hear from you.

We couldn't close this month's issue without including a 1914 advertisement for Bennett's Tile Ditcher (see below). Apparently it worked by making multiple passes, carrying out a few inches of dirt each time. The advertisement notes that one man with four horses could cut at least one hundred rods of tile ditch in a day, although it was probably a very long day, and the ditch wasn't terribly deep...we don't know. Okay, okay already...we know this isn't a gas engine, it ain't a tractor, and ain't even pulled with a tractor, but we thought it was a quaint piece of machinery, and hope you'll share our view.

The purpose of the Reflections column is to provide a forum for the exchange of all useful information among subscribers to GEM. Inquiries or responses should be addressed to: REFLECTIONS, Gas Engine Magazine, P.O. Box 328, Lancaster, PA 17608-0328.