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William Annechini Jr.

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As we've told many of you before, we acquired a complete run of the Patent Office Gazette several years ago. There's a wealth of information to be found in these, despite the fact that they take up about 400 linear feet of shelf space. At the present time, we're working on a couple of different titles that will illustrate many of the early trademarks used by engine manufacturers. Also included will be trademarks as used on tractors, implements, farm equipment, and automobiles. Illustration 29/4/A shows Trademark (TM) 38,637 for the Uncle Sam engine that was made at Chicago, Illinois. Here's a company that's rarely heard of in collector circles. In fact, it is listed in the index of American Gas Engines, but no living examples have been found, at least to our knowledge. Directly below the Uncle Sam TM is one registered by the Johnston Harvester Company at Batavia, New York.

In 29/4/B we have the 1907 trademark of the International Power Company. Early on, trademark applications carried a sentence like, 'Claims use since 19.' For several years in the early 1900s, this information does not appear in the POG listings, although it might show on a copy of the TM application. The problem is that copies of these documents are getting rather expensive, and to send to the Patent Office for a large number of them would also involve a heavy expenditure of funds!

In 29/4/C we have the 'Reindeer' trademark used on engines sold by Deere & Webber. In 1906, Deere 6k Webber was a branch house that sold primarily John Deere-built products, although other items were included. At this time, it appears that the Root 6k Vandervoort engines made at Moline, Illinois, were sold by Deere 6k Webber, either under the Reindeer trademark, the R & V trademark, or perhaps both.

On page 130 of American Gas Engines is a brief description of the Detroit Auto-Marine Company. This TM application (29/4/D) was filed in 1905, so obviously the company goes back that far in the engine business, and likely somewhat further.

The C. C. Riotte Company is briefly described on page 423 of American Gas Engines. Beyond this, not a single copy of their Empire engine has emerged to our knowledge. In their TM application of 32,963 the company claimed use of the Empire trademark since March 3, 1898.

It is important to note that one cannot take the serial numbers shown with these trademark applications and send in for a copy of the trademark! The serial number shown was issued while the trademark was published, and only as a reference until it was determined whether there was opposition to its being issued. Once this period passed, the trademark was granted, and was then given a trademark reference number. This system makes trademark research very complicated, since it requires poring through at least two different sets of indexes to find a trademark. The indexes are sometimes rather vague, so this research project has also included a visual search of the trademark applications published each week.

The famous 'Foos' trademark is shown in 29/4/F. The application notes that this one has been used for ten years, putting it back to 1896. However, Foos had been building engines prior to that time.

In 29/4/G we see the trademark for Southern Engine &. Boiler Works. At the time, Southern was not building internal combustion engines, but did so later on. A look at the application indicates that the company went back to 1884, or perhaps even earlier. Sometimes these are clues that can lead a researcher to more and better information on a given company.

For this time, we've included another one, 29/4/H, of the Duluth Gas Engine Works, Duluth, Minnesota. This one isn't even listed in the index of companies within American Gas Engines. According to the application, the 'Crescent' trademark had been used since January 1, 1902, and the application was filed on March 15, 1904. Here's another of those elusive companies that somehow appears out of nowhere, and another for which we have no information whatever.

As we noted earlier, this is the kind of information you'll see in book form later on, but we still are putting this project together, and after that, it requires a few months to get it published.

Our queries this month begin with:

29/4/4 Gardenall Tractor Q. See the photos of my recently acquired 1955/56 (?) Gard'n Master tractor by Gardenall Tractor Inc., Liberty, Indiana; sin 55753. It is powered by an 8 or 10 HP Briggs & Stratton engine with a 3-speed automotive transmission and a final drive arrangement with a hand clutch.

Can anyone provide me with the proper colors for restoration and perhaps any other information relative to decals, manuals, how many built, etc.?

My other restorations include 10 meticulously restored Wheel-Horse tractors ranging from 1954 to 1966, including one of the first with hydraulics (Model 1054), as well as a fully restored 1939 John Deere Model L and a Mode! M. I will send you some pictures. William Annechini Jr., 1485 Tullamore Lane, Box 601, Valley Forge, PA 19482.

29/4/1 Fairbanks-Morse Q. Although I've purchased almost every book on Fairbanks-Morse, there isn't much available on their hoists. One of my hoisting engines looks exactly like the one on the bottom of page 32 in Fairbanks-Morse: 100 Years of Engine Technology. It has a 121/2 inch bore, eight-spoke flywheels, and is s/n 165105.

Were the horsepower ratings the same on hoisting engines as on other engines? Why do the crankshafts have 'HM 25' stamped on them, regardless of the size (for the Type N engines)? Also, I have used the partial serial number listing within your book (referred to above) but it doesn't seem to be right, since it shows the big ones to be 1915 or so.

I also need information on a Sullivan air compressor, 8 x 10 inch bore and stroke, very similar to the one on page 117 of 100 Years of Fairbanks-Morse. Is this company still in business? Any information will be appreciated. Ray Hutchison, 2791 Anita Dr., Lake Havasu City, A2 86404.

A. Hoisting engines were one of those specialized pieces of equipment for which there seems to be little information. Our understanding is that, compared to the overall engine production, very few were built . . . perhaps a few thousand over many years of engine building. F-M continued building the Type N and Type T engines up to 1915, and perhaps even longer, just to use up some of the remaining parts inventory. Since the hoisting engines required an engine base, and since it would have been very expensive to modify the existing patterns to fit another engine, it seems entirely logical that a few of the Type N horizontal and Type T vertical engines were built up for hoists as needed, and when needed, even though this might have been several years after the engines went out of actual production.

To better illustrate the point, F-M took over the Stover engine factory at Frecport, Illinois, for war production in the 1940s. They left the Stover parts inventory intact, except of course, to sell repair parts to customers. After F-M left, a huge inventory of parts still remained. The late Lester Roos, who was probably the world's most knowledgeable person on Stover engines, once showed us some paperwork which indicates that something over 100 tons of parts were sold for scrap during the 1950s. In fact, there were more than enough parts on hand to have built up a substantial number of new engines in sizes up to 30 horsepower. Likewise, for Fairbanks-Morse,'we think it not at all unlikely that their parts inventory was sufficiently large that a hoisting engine could be built on order from existing parts, or from new castings made from the original patterns. And finally, we believe that the F-M serial number listing is quite accurate. Their engines were numbered consecutively, regardless of

horsepower or style. Before the paper records were reduced to microfiche, a spot check in several places showed the listing to be quite accurate. In fact, the listing was probably built from these very records. This company's accurate and detailed record keeping over the years lends even more credence to the accuracy of the serial number listing.

29/4/2 Hand Seeders Q I have a collection of hand and 'jabber' seeders, and would like to know of any book or information on these seeders. Raulin Shryock, 408 E. Ohio St., Oblong, IL 62449.

A. We know of nothing in print on this subject.

29/4/3 Witte Information Q. What is the year built for a Witte 2 HP engine, sin B13249? Also, can anyone tell me of where I might find a reproduction nameplate for same? KentZobel, Rt 1, Box 35A, Monroe, NE 68647.

A. Your engine was built in May 1924. Does anyone know of reproduction nameplates for this engine?

29/4/5 Norseman Tractor Ever since the picture of my Norseman tractor appeared in the August 1993 GEM, a number of different people have asked me why I did not enlarge on the history and background of this tractor. So, here's what I know about it:

It was assembled in Toronto, Ontario by two people shortly after World War Two. The tractor was made up largely of war surplus units ... Chrysler Industrial engine, Dodge truck transmission, and a Brenn gun carrier rear end. They are about the cheapest-built thing you ever saw. My Norseman s/n 402 is the second tractor produced by that company. Surprisingly, the first tractor, s/n 401, is still living. It was painted green and did not have the raised letters on the center vertical piece of the grille. All the rest were painted red and had raised letters on the above piece. There is a man making the side decals at a very reasonable price. The one I have is a narrow front end, but some had the wide front. They were distributed by Fluery Bissel Co. of Aurora, Ontario, which was a short line company specializing in till age machinery such as plows, disks, etc. I have been told that less than 50 of these tractors were made. They probably sold for $600 or $700 ... somewhat less than a Farmall M, and a few farmers would go for that. Alex M. Edgar, RR 1, Ayr, Ontario NOB 1E0 Canada.

29/4/6 Unidentified Engines Q. See Photos 6A and 6B of a complete engine and transmission assembly; the head is numbered 07267 and the block is numbered 66118. The application and manufacturer are unknown. The crankcase is one complete unit with the bell housing and is made of aluminum. The bore and stroke is about 21/8 x 31/8 The cylinder assembly bolts onto the crankcase. Cylinder head looks like a Model T, and engine is 'Made in U.S.A.' The transmission has straight-tooth Ford car gears with a synchronizer for high and second. No water pump, and the bell housing opens from the top for service.

I also have a two-cycle engine that needs to be identified. See photos 6C and 6D. Al McGee , 547- 31st Ave., East Moline, IL 61244.

29/4/7 Minneapolis 27-42 Colors? Q. What is the correct shade of gray for a Minneapolis 27-42 tractor? What color is the trim, and are there any decals available? If not, I need to know what words were on the tractor and where. Also the seat and mounting are missing, so would like to find the measurements and dimensions. Dave Aikens, 12696 Smedley Rd., Waterford, FA 16441.

A. We've never found any paint color information on the Minneapolis tractors, so if anyone can help, please do so. We hope there's someone out there who can be of help on the other requests above.

29/4/8 Please Note! We never, never, ever include letters in this column that give no name or address! However, if you wish to have your name withheld, we'll simply suffix with 'Name Withheld by Request.'

Sometimes people send photocopies of information to be used in the column. With today's machines, we can usually reproduce them, but sometimes, they simply will not yield a good image, and so we can't use them. Please understand that it's nothing personal, but rather, it's a simple limitation imposed by in-animate things! Ye Olde Reflector.

29/4/9 Waterloo Boy Tractor Q. During the mid-1920s my great-uncle purchased a Waterloo Boy tractor, s/n 20274 and plow from a dealer in Dupree, South Dakota. A short time later the tractor was resold after he was involved in a fatal farm accident with it. We have the original bill of sale. By chance, is this tractor still in existence? If it is, I'd like to hear from the owner.

Can anyone tell me if the rods and pistons from a 12-20 Case will fit a 10-18 Case? Will pistons from any other Case tractor fit a 10-18 Case? If any one can help, Yd appreciate hearing from you.

I'm also compiling a list of 9-18 Case owners and their tractor's serial numbers. If you have a 9-18 or know of one, please let me know. Bruce Flatmoe, 7286 Clay AveE., Inver Grove Hts., MN 55076.

29/4/10 Cunningham Model EB Q. I have a Cunningham Model EB engine , s/n 13635, and would like to have any information on it. Also need ignition for this engine. Can anyone be of help? Glen E. Davis, 212 S. Blaine Ave., Bradley, 1L 60915.

29/4/11 New-Way Question Q. I need some help in finding a part for a New Way air-cooled engine, 5 HP, Model CHA, like was on the Centaur tractor. I need the dimensions of the bracket that holds the governor weights. The one in this engine came all apart. It was made of pot metal, I guess. I need one to have one cast, or to make a model of. Wayne Rogers, 10076 Quail Run Road, Tyler, TX 75709-9761.

29/4/12 E-B Tractor Q. See the photo of a 1919 Emerson-Brantingham tractor with a gasoline engine. I have found few that have heard the name. Would like to find an owners/shop manual, and, if possible, the value of this unit. Paul Tiggelbeck, Rt. 2, Box 153-C, Bee Branch, AR 72013.

29/4/13 IHC Type M Question Q. What is the correct color for a 11/2 HP Type M engine. Also, I need to know what style of muffler was used, as mine is missing. Gregory Badger, 3835 Hallman Ave., Collegeville, PA 19426.

A. We have DuPont 93-84155 Adirondack Green listed as a comparable color, or PPG 40496 also. We believe that reproduction Type M mufflers might be available through GEM advertisers.

29/4/14 Illinois Tractor Q. Would anyone have a picture of, or own, an 18-30 Illinois tractor? They were built at Bloomington, Illinois in 1918 by the Illinois Silo & Tractor Company. Robert F. Routh, 2226 County Rd 1700 N, St. Joseph, IL 61873-9758.

A. Page 151 of Encyclopedia of American Farm Tractors is devoted to this company, and illustrates several other models besides the 18-30.

29/4/15 Burall Corn Sheller Q. See the photos of a No. 2 Burall Corn Sheller made by the Goulds Mfg. Co., Seneca Fails, New York. It was patented on March 14,1863. It is of all cast iron construction. I would like to know something about the company, and the paint colors. Is there a book available on this type of equipment? Earl Resner, 203 Easter Hill Dr., Grand Jct., CO 81503.

A. Can anyone be of help on this request? We know of nothing in print in this regard.

29/4/16 Sylvester Engine Q. I would appreciate any information at all on my Type M Sylvester engine, 43/4 HP, water cooled, s/n 4578. It was made by Sylvester Mfg. Co. Ltd., Lindsay, Ontario. Charles P. Shervin, 13746 Allen Rd., Albion, NY 14411.

A. On page 501 of American Gas Engines, a Sylvester engine is illustrated, along with some meager information on the company; that's all we've found so far.

29/4/17 Panther Cat Q. See the photo of a Panther Cat made in Austin, Texas. It uses a Waukesha engine. I need to correspond with someone that has a Panther or has pictures. Thanks. Raymond Gardner, Route 2, Box 525, Ban-don, OR 97411.

29/4/18 Sultan Engine Q. I have a Sultan engine of about 6 HP, made by the Whitman Agricultural Co., St. Louis, Missouri. I would like to correspond with anyone having one of these engines or information on same. Ian Kin-zie, RR 33 Blair Rd., Cambridge, Ontario N3H 4R8 Canada.

29/4/19 IHC 8-16 Tractor Q. I am trying to find the serial number on my 8-16 tractor. In your book, 150 Years of International Harvester, you say it should be located on a machined surface near the magneto bracket. 1 and others have looked and looked and can find nothing there. My tractor is of the VB series with the large mechanical oiler. It does look like there was a tag on the side of the block but it is gone. Any advice will be appreciated. Doug Satterlee, 880 Hardscrabble Rd.,Casville, NY 13318.

A. Our information came from International Harvester, perhaps from one of their parts books or an instruction manual . . . we don't recall the source. Possibly by the time of the VB series, IH had gone to an attached plate, and had left off stamping the number on the engine block. However, it might be stamped elsewhere, such as on the flywheel housing:

29/4/20 Rugg Tractor Q. See the photo of a Rugg lawn tractor, apparently made in 1965 by the E. T. Rugg Co., Newark, Ohio. It is a Model 5065, sin 65-208315, with a B& S 6 HP engine, Model 142702. I would like to correspond with anyone having parts or information about this tractor. Joseph R. Mezey Jr., 109 West Glen Rd., Denville, NJ 07834

29/4/21 Goodall Tritnmer/Edger Q. After reading your very good story about Leonard B. Goodall in the December 1993 GEM, I found that Goodall Mfg. Corp. was at 7558 Washington Ave South, Eden Prairie, MN 55344, which was sold to Bunton Co., PO Box 33247, Louisville, KY40232 about 1966. On the tag of the unit I have it shows Goodall Mfg. Corp., s/n 12PU 6022, and several patent numbers. The engine is from Power Products, No. T-616-17 and it has a 12-inch blade. Neither of the above two companies could give me any information. I would like to know if this is the same Goodall as in your story, also when it was made, and other information. See the before-and-after photos in 21A and 2IB. Charles Wright, RD 2, Box 287, Rockwood, PA 15557.

29/4/22 Foreign Correspondent Dave Wilson, 93 Alrewas Rd., Kings Bromley, Burton on Trent, Staffs DEO 7HP England would like to correspond with enthusiasts in the United States to 'compare notes' and otherwise exchange information. At present he has a 1949 Allis-Chalmers Model B and a 1950 Ferguson 20.

29/4/23 County Super Six Q. See the two pictures of a tractor I ran across in my travels. On the grille it shows 'County Super Six . It is all-wheel-drive with power steering. Can anyone provide further in formation? Ed Pedrick, PO Box 393, Santa Maria, CA 93456-0393.

29/4/24 F-M Generator Q. Can anyone supply information on a Fairbanks-Morse direct-current generator? It is powered by a F-M 6-7 HP Style C engine. The generator is a Type DG, compound wound, 3 kw, 125 volts, and 24 amps, It has 6 wires coming out the generator that are marked A1, A2, F1, F2, S1, and S2. How should I connect these wires? Robbins Douglas, Rt 1, Box476, Kinsale, VA 22488.

A. This one has the Armature, Field, and Shunt leads all brought out of the dynamo. We looked through what little we have on F-M dynamos, but we don't have a drawing for this specific generator. However, see 29/4/24 for a generic drawing of a compounded machine with a long shunt winding.

29/4/25 Domestic Engine Sam Spencer, 1285-A Lovett Rd., Orange Park, FL 32073 would like information such as proper color, year built, etc. on a Domestic engine, s/n 20810, 31/2 horsepower.

29/4/26 Information Needed Q. Could you give us the year built on the following engines?: Ottawa 3 HP, C 27245 and C27463; Witte 7 HP, B19736; IHC 3-5 HP, LBBR39368 HH; IHC 3-5 HP, LBBR 27314 HH; IHC 1 1/2-21/2 HP, LBA90449. Lenora K. Plumlee, HCR 33, Box 120, Compton, AR 72624.

A. No numbers available on Ottawa; Witte, 1925; IHC 1944; IHC 1941; and 1945 in that order.

29/4/27 Aerothrust Engine Q. See the photos of an Aerothrust two-cycle engine, s/n A2541. The former owner thought it was a marine engine, but it appears on page 14 of American Gas Engines as a portable engine. Can you provide further information? Jeff Conner, 8269 Dunham Rd., Baldwinsville, NY 13027.

A Some of the advertisements portrayed the Aerothrust as a grain binder engine. Whether it was used for this purpose to any extent, we don't know; what is certain is that the Cushman 4 HP model was sold more than any other for this specific purpose.

29/4/28 Thanks To Art DeKalb, Van Alstyne Dr., Pulaski, NY 13142 for sending along photocopies of pertinent information from a 1906 copy of Modern Machinery magazine. We've got 32 file drawers full, plus boxes and boxes of material awaiting some organizational work

29/4/29 My Third Attempt! Q. This is my third attempt to get information on the engine in the photo. I hope someone can supply me with some information. This is a julien engine of about 4 or 5 horsepower, as it has a 41/2 x 9 inch bore and stroke, with 27 inch flywheels. There is no nameplate, nor any numbers that I can find. I desperately need help establishing what the paintings on the cylinder sides are, the correct model number, and any history on this engine I can gather. I would like very much to correspond with other Julien owners, as this unit is very complete, and maybe I can help them also. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated, and all correspondence will be answered. Al Hauschildt, Curator, Horse Around Ranch Museum, 19010 Yost Ranch Rd., Sonora, CA 95370.

A. If you can be of help, please contact Mr. Hauschildt!

29/4/30 Titan Junior Q. I am confused. I have an IHC Titan Jr. I HP horizontal hopper cooled kerosene engine, as shown in the photos. In American Gasoline Engines, on pages 246-247, it shows the Titan built like the Tom Thumb, sold by Deering, with the same flywheels and other parts. My engine looks like the one on page 247 called Mogul sold by McCormick. I think there is a mistake on these engines. Note the location of the drip oiler on my engine; it is in front of the water hopper. The engine I have belonged to my grandfather. It was used on an orchard sprayer pump, also used on washing machine and grinding wheel. I have been showing it several years at engine shows. R. W. Doss, 5950 Wilson Dr., Huntington, WV 25705.

A. See the (rather poor) photocopy of the Titan 1 HP model from a 1917 IHC Titan engine catalog (29/4/30C). About one thing there's no doubtif it was Titan, it was built at Milwaukee Works and sold by Deering dealers. If it was Mogul it was built at Chicago Works and sold by McCormick dealers. At the time IHC was under court order to operate the various merged firms as separate entities, albeit under the IHC umbrella. The engine in the center of page 247 is a Mogul Jr., as evidenced by the unique funnel top on the water hopper.

29/4/31 Stearns & Co.Woody Sins, 483 Marilyn Drive, Utica, NY 13502 writes:

First of all, I would like to thank the gentleman who called to identify the engine in 29/1/12 (January 1994 GEM) as a Chalmers automobile engine of 1909-12 vintage.

Also see a couple photos of a lawn-mower I 'inherited' from my uncle. It is a Stearns made by E. C. Stearns &. Co., Syracuse, New York. Some of its more unusual features include a small two-stroke engine, with the exhaust exiting underneath the deck. The blade is a piece of steel with a couple of mower sections bolted to the ends. It seems to be complete, but there is no spark. Even though lawnmowers aren't quite my line, I am sending in the pictures because it seems to be quite unusual.

29/4/32 GEN Engine Q. See the photo of a GEN engine. It was built by General Engines Co., Franklin Park, Illinois, Model D, Type 211, s/n 11312. Anyone having information, please write to Mark Schultz, 1650 Schust Rd., Saginaw, Ml 48604-

29/4/33 Paint Colors Q. The Stover CT-2 recommendation of PPG-44616 (June 1993 issue, reference 28/6/21) is troublesome. On investigation (locally and by calling the factory) I found PPG-44616 to be an automotive paint. Costs quoted me were $48.60, which included a quart of paint, quart of reducer, and a quart of (optional) catalyst. I love my engines and I love my hobby but there has to be a better way to paint 'em.

I would like to hear from any engine enthusiast, recommendations by brand name, color number, type of paint, and your tips, opinions, and results of any paints used on any engines. If anyone has knowledge, research or experience in color and paint identification for any engine, please include engine name, approximate year, sin and/or other pertinent information. If there is enough interest and information, I would like to research further antique gasoline engine paint restoration for a possible article to submit to GEM.

By the way, does anybody have paint recommendations for Stover CT-2, Edwards 2-cylinder, Fuller & Johnson NC J ***, Briggs FI, or Palmer 6 HP inboard marine engine? Alan P. Nowell, 7240 SW 130thSt., Miami, FL33156.

A. The paint color numbers we've gathered over the past 25 years have come from our own observations and from many, many other folks. We think it's a matter of personal preference, and ye olde Reflector doesn't have any 'druthers about what somebody else paints their engines with. An el cheapo alkyd from Jumpin' Joe's War Surplus Store will last for a short time, but just like those old-tyme paints that were used back then, it will quickly fade, and a drop of gasoline on it takes off paint the size of a silver dollar. The acrylics are much more expensive, but when used with the proper amount of hardener, and with proper surface preparation, they'll last a lot longer. Even then, the oil, the fuel, and the heat do their work, and every few years it's necessary for us to repaint an engine; that's because we like that shiny 'new' look. The color matches that we've used over the years provide some degree of uniformity, and also permit a California collector to paint a Cushman the same identical color as the guy up in Vermont. But again, it's a matter of preference.

29/4/34 Galloway Question Q. I have a Galloway 71/2 HP engine, s/n 19960. In American Gas Engines you state that it has a 6 x 12 inch bore and stroke. However, mine has a 61/2 inch bore. Can you explain this, or did Galloway under-rate their engine this way, as the bore size would figure out to 8 HP? Also, when was this engine built?

I would also like to hear from anyone regarding a 2 HP Goold, Shapley & Muir engine, made in Brantford, Ontario. Francis Kurds, 646 Anderson Rd., Niles, MI 49120-9749.

A. Engine manufacturers certainly did change horsepower ratings, and also had no compunction about changing the diameter of bore, or other features, during production. This is likely what happened with the Galloway above. In compiling American Gas Engines, we went with whatever information we could find. Fortunately, Galloway usually included this information in their advertising, while the biggest engine builder of all never did in their earlier years, and did so randomly later on.

Readers Write

Maynard Engines In the last issue, Willard E. Cawley, 6-369 Palace Rd., Kingston, Ontario ONT K7L 4T5 Canada, wrote a query regarding a Maynard engine. These were sold by the Charles Williams Stores. His engine had 'B. E. Co.' in the castings. Since that time he has come upon the letters J. M. M. C. in the casting just below the crankshaft. At this point, Mr. Cawley is of the opinion that the engine under discussion was made with parts supplied by several firms, since the latter initials would imply Jacobsen Machine Mfg. Company.

Under no circumstances does Mr. Cawley's engine resemble a Maynard as might have been built by Nelson Bros. Company. His engine is identical to that shown on the top right hand corner of page 554 in American Gas Engines, right down to the gasoline fill pipe and its location.

Mr. Cawley adds that this engine featured many good engineering qualities such as the six-bolt water-cooled cylinder head, split-hub flywheels, and separately cast base, cylinder, and hopper.

Mr. Cawley would like to hear from other owners of Maynard engines. Perhaps this might lead to some consensus of what they sold and when. If you can be of help, kindly contact Mr. Cawley.

Case VAC Regarding this inquiry in the November 1993 issue, we have the following from C. Russell Umback, Box 117, Lemmon, SD:

Your serial number indicates a 1945 model. The rule I was taught for the seven-digit serial number is to subtract 4 from the first two digits of the serial number to get the year.

According to R. B. Gray in Development of the Agricultural Tractor in the United States, the VAC and related models were introduced in 1942, so by the basis it would be consistent for yours to be a VAC.

However, 1940 Nebraska Tractor Test Data includes a Case Model VC which looked very similar except that it was powered by a Continental L-head engine with 3 x 43/8 inch bore and stroke. I am wondering if your tractor has this engine.

Should this be the situation, I would guess that your tractor was either repowered with the older engine as a salvage operation, or alternatively, that it is actually a VC to which some VAC tinware, including the serial plate, was affixed.

I don't know how readily these two engines would interchange, they maybe used a different clutch housing etc., but then these things get old and you still have some use for it. It isn't uncommon to put together what you have.

Incidentally, Case used that OHV 31/3 x 33/4 engine on their later Model K combines. We had one and is was a honey. Earlier Model Ks used a 31/4 x 4 L-head; I don't know what make engine.

Red-E Tractors About a week after I sent in a request for information about a Red-E tractor, I was informed that there was one about three miles away. The man had more manuals and literature than I needed. Some of your readers also answered my request. Thank them all ... especially the one whose letter I lost. I wrote the others, thanking them. Here's what I found:

The Red-E tractor was started in the early 1940s and didn't really get going until 1946-47. It was made to be an economical tractor with readily available parts. A Wisconsin or Briggs 6k Stratton engine, a Crossley transmission, and a Ford rear end were used. The tractor (rider) is now called an Economy and is made by Engineering Products Company, PO Box 284, 1900 E. Ellis St., Waukesha, Wisconsin. Parts are available from the company. Glen R. Swanson, HCR 1, Box 827, Marcell, MN 56657.

Stump Grubber Follow-up This is a follow-up on my stump puller that appeared in the May 1993 GEM. I am dedicating this story to Jim Callender of Columbia, Mississippi, who contacted me about a capstan winch I have. He inspired me to put mine together and send it into GEM.

My winch is made by W. Smith Grubber Co., LaCrosse, Wisconsin. It weighs over 300 pounds. I believe that it was bolted to a single pole and dragged from stump to stump sideways. The skids I made are just for demonstration . . . nothing like this was made in the 'good ol' days.' I cut a 12-foot pole, 7 inches in diameter, and pinned it to the top of the winch spool. The outer end was to a team of horses or hitched to a tractor.

One end of the winch was tied to a larger stump to hold the winch in place, while the spool was turned, tightening the cable attached to the stump being pulled. A pawl at the bottom of the spool held the cable tight while the horses rested and more roots could be cut, or whatever it took to make the stump come out. The lines used were at least 1*** inches in diameter. A two-block line to the stump to be pulled would require some means to anchor the cable end to the winch base. None is visible on my winch.

I would really enjoy hearing from anyone who has a capstan winch, so we can share pictures and compare notes, also to keep a little piece of history alive. John M. Edgerton, 603 Loon Lake Rd., Bigfork, Montana 59911.

(See Photos RW-1, RW-2, and RW-3 of the stump puller.)

29/2/14 & 29/2/25The engines in both 29/2/14 and 29/2/25 are Jacobson. No doubt from their lawnmowers. N. Cledus Stites, RR 1,Odon, IN 47562.

Frank McCutcheon, 1543 Greenhill Drive, Canyon Lane, TX 78133 replied also: 29/2/25 is a Jacobson lawnmower engine. The mower was about a 30 or 32-inch self-propelled reel-type mower, and 1 believe it was a 'four-acre' model probably made in the 30s or 40s. I think Jacobson is still in business. 29/2/14 is another Jacobson of similar use.

Postage Stamp

We received a number of letters favoring a U. S. Postage stamp commemorating the invention of the gas engine. Perhaps the comments are best summed up in a letter from Delmer J. Dooley, RR 2, Box 28A, Ramona, SD 57054. He writes in part:

The comments and proposal in favor of a U. S. postage stamp commemorating the invention of the gas engine deserve support. The collectors, and those who enjoy the hobby, represent a knowledgeable group to help make the proposal a reality.

Modelmakers Corner

Following the death of Paul Breisch in June 1993, Jay Peters of Schwenksville, PA has purchased the model gasoline engine business the late Mr. Breisch founded. Peters, 62, has a background in machining and mechanical engineering and will continue to supply engine kits of the same high-quality castings as did Mr. Breisch. The new firm will go under the Breisch/Peters name. We don't have the new address for Breisch/ Peters, but the phone number is 610-287-5179.

A Closing Word

By the time this issue is in your hands, those of us in the cold weather regions will probably start to see a few nice days, especially after record-setting cold weather! In all of our enthusiasm to fire up some engines, move some others, and go scouting for still more, we again ask all of you to use care and caution. This heavy old iron has no conscience at all about mashing fingers somewhat like a big fly swatter. It also has no cares at all whether we suffer hernias, strains, and sprains. At times like these, and when our carefully restored vintage engines and tractors throw a balky spell, we're reminded of the old timer who referred to 'the infernal cussedness of inanimate things.