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5 HP two-stroke petrol engine


Michiel Hooijberg

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27/4/23 Walk-Behind Tractors Q. Photo 23A illustrates a Siemens Model K5 tractor built about 1933. It has a 5 HP two-stroke petrol engine. This is the oldest engine I was made in Berlin, Germany. Photo 23B illustrates a Bungartz Model H5, No. 19704, built ca. 1958. It has a Fichtel & Sachs Stamo 280 two-stroke petrol engine with 8 HP. Here it is fitted with a sicklebar mower, but all sorts of implements can be mounted, like rotary cultivator, plow, pumps, snow boards ,etc. This machine was built in Munich, Western Germany. It is one of my 18 different models of Bungartz. Photo 23C is a stranger in my collection, a Roof Mower, Model VP-75 with a Wisconsin engine, Model S-7D. In 1985 Teledyne Total Power of Memphis, Tennessee informed me that the engine had been manufactured in 1966. But in the same year the Roof Mfg. Co. of Pontiac, Illinois told me that they only used Briggs & Stratton and Tecumseh engines on their mowers, and also that my mower must have been manufactured in 1975 or later. Is there, anyone who can solve both the engine and the date mysteries? Michiel Hooijberg, Westdijk 12, NL-1463 PA BEEMSTER Netherlands Europe.

27/4/24 Champion Seeder Q. I need information on the seeder in the photo. The seed boxes are red with blue striping. It has writing on it, but I can't make it out. It appears the last word is CHAMPION. Elmer Ivy, RR 20, Box 332, Bloomington, IN 61701.

27/4/25 Gould, Shapley & Muir Q. I have a G S & M engine made in Brantford, Ontario. Mine is a 1? HP model, s/n 10790. However, it is not listed in American Gas Engines. Any information will be appreciated. Marcus Roosch, 519 So. Valley, New Ulm, MN 56073.

27/4/26 Minneapolis Crossmotor Q. What is the correct color scheme for a Minneapolis Crossmotor tractor, Type B, s/n 8934? I've been trying to get the proper scheme, but so far, without success. Any help will be appreciated. David Kyler, 1595 S. St., Rd 9, Columbia City, IN 46725.

A. We don't have the scheme either, so if some collector can provide this information let Mr. Kyler (and us) know what it is.

27/4/27 Unidentified Engine Q. See the photo of a marine type engine that so far is unidentified, although the previous owner thought it was a Temple. It uses a 4 inch bore and stroke, Kinston carburetor, and has a 14? x 2? inch flywheel. Overall height is 19? inches. I would like to get a positive identification, and any other information obtainable on this engine. John Horvat, 3110 N. Grant, Harrison, MI 48625.

27/4/28 Hocking Valley Q. I have a Hocking Valley Feed Cutter that is completely restored, and would like to hear from anyone having one of these machines or having information on same. John Casey, 18975 Texas Ave., Prior Lake, MN 55372.

27/4/29 An Old Hay Press Q. I acquired the old hay press shown in the photo, and plan to restore it. Does anyone know the make? It was bought used in 1926, and the only paint 1 can find is a green, something like Stover green. All the casting numbers have a 'BP' prefix. Any information will be greatly appreciated. El-wood Patterson, Box 13, Claremont, SD 57432.

A. If you can be of help on this query, kindly do so.

27/4/30 A Waterloo Boy? Q. The engine in the photos is mounted on a cement mixer built by Cement Tile Machinery Company, Waterloo, Iowa. It looks like an early style Waterloo Boy engine, but even more like the Knowlton engine on page 265 of American Gas Engines. The Webster magneto bracket is A303J114A, and your Notebook lists this bracket for the 14 HP engine from Geo. B. Miller & Sons, Waterloo, Iowa. Can anyone provide a positive identification for this engine? Ken Johnson, 25277 Rancho, Apple Valley, CA 92307.

A. Since George B. Miller had been a prominent figure in the Waterloo Gasoline Engine Company, prior to the latter's buyout by John Deere, it seems logical that his engines would follow the same general designs as the old Waterloo Boy. A photo of a Miller engine on page 308 of the above mentioned title does not yield sufficient detail to make a definite judgement in this regard, but we would suggest that this is actually a Geo. B. Miller engine, particularly because of the Webster bracket number. Even though the Webster listings we have show only the 14 HP model, it is entirely possible that Miller offered other engines with the Webster magneto. If so, they probably modified the engine to use the same bracket. However, you note in your letter that one of the bracket holes has been redrilled to fit the studs in the cylinder flange, so this theory may also be in error. One thing is definite...the engine was built in Waterloo, or at the very least, followed the old Waterloo Boy designs. Beyond that, does anyone have a definite identification for this engine?

27/4/31 Ottawa TractorGeorge S. Farnham, 2460 Baltimore , Decatur, IL 62521 needs information on an Ottawa tractor with the following specs: The Ottawa No. MT 4018 HP 8? Ottawa Mfg. Co. Ottawa, Kansas

This tractor has an IY-69 Continental engine. I've been told it was purchased in 1932. Any information will be greatly appreciated.

27/4/32 Buckeye Traction DitcherSee the two photos of a Buckeye traction ditcher owned by the National Museum of Science & Technology, Ottawa, Ontario. It has a Buckeye engine of the hit-and-miss type with a 10-inch bore and stroke. The flywheels are about 4? feet in diameter. It takes four good men, two on each flywheel, to turn it over. This machine almost needs a Philadelphia lawyer to operate, with allĀ  the cables, transmissions, clutches, steering, and engine controls. Thanks to W. G. Zandbelt, Box 162, Vernon, ONT K0A 3J0 Canada for sending us this information.

27/4/33 Maytag Compressor Q. See the two photos of a Maytag engine with a diaphragm compressor. The tag reads: Allstate Compressor, Sears Roebuck Co., Model 333-9235. Any information will be appreciated. Jerry Nance, 609 S. First St., Odessa, MO 64076.

27/4/34 Starting Problems Q. I have a 1? DeLaval engine as built by John Lauson Co., and illustrated on page 278 of American Gas Engines. It uses a Sumter No. 11 magneto and an ignitor. I have adjusted the timing and checked the magneto and ignitor to the best of my ability, but have been unable to start the engine. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Murray B. A. Hendren, 1229 Royal Drive, Peterborough, ONT K9H 6R3 Canada.

A. Few things are more frustrating than to work hours and hours on a restoration, and then be unable to get the engine started. The older we get, the sooner we get worn out trying to crank one too! One is to pull out the piston and rod, and with a mechanic's flexible mirror, turn the engine over to see if there is fire at the points. There can be any number of problems from timing to a worn push rod (allowing the trip finger to squirm out of its proper position). If the igniter trip is secured to the side of the cylinder, and is not dependent on the valve pushrod, then it is possible to remove the head and turn the engine over to see if it is firing as it should be. This is a tough question to answer, as there are so many variables. One time we had an engine that absolutely refused to run. After trying many different things, we finally took the mixer off once again and almost by accident, we found the trouble. Some mud dauber wasps had built a small nest way up in the mixer, and due to its design, this was almost impossible to see. With a bent piece of wire and the air gun, we finally got this stuff cleaned out, and voila! the engine ran. Regarding specifics of your engine and the magneto used, perhaps some other De-Laval owners have experienced similar problems, and may be of help.