Unidentified Engine


Glenn Pritchard

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26/4/41 General GG Tractor Q. I have recently purchased a Cletrac General GG tractor, s/n 1FA3890. Any information or service data will be greatly appreciated. Joseph G. Stefanik, 5250 Holly Springs Dr E., Indianapolis, IN 46254.

26/4/42 Ditching Machine Q. See the photos of a farm ditching machine of unknown date or make. We do not think it was used locally. For many years it was the property of Mr. Walter Ogle, a local country blacksmith. No one had ever asked about the machine or had seen it work. Without a doubt it was never shedded ,as it was solid rust, and not a trace of paint. Perhaps someone can identify it or explain its use. Any information will be appreciated. Jesse A. Bandy, 406 N. High Street, Paris, IL 61944.

A. Ditching plows were used infrequently here in eastern Iowa, although it appears from the folklore that they were occasionally employed to drain a low spot, but only as a temporary measure. We suspect that there were some areas to which the ditching plow was better adapted. Can anyone fill us in?

26/4/43 Numbers Needed Q. What is the year built of the following: Fairbanks-Morse 520100, John Deere Model A, 482922, Wisconsin AKN, 1579526, Dan Gutknecht, 6242 - 148th Ave., West Olive, Ml 49460.

A. The FBM was built in 1922; the Deere A is a 1938, and we don't have any list on the Wisconsin.

26/4/44 Jackson Engine Q. See the two photos of a 1? HP Type A Jackson engine made at Jackson, Michigan. Can anyone supply information on this company or this engine? Carl Knipfel, Route 3, Morton, IL 61550.

A. Our research for American Gas Engines indicates that Jackson began selling engines about 1913, but we have never been able to learn much about this particular company.

26/4/45 Reid Engines Q. While in the process of restoring some Joseph Reid engines, I was wondering if anyone could share their ideas as to how to remove a stuck piston, since these engines do not have removable heads. Your assistance will be appreciated. Glenn A. Radaher, RD 1, Knox, PA 16232.

A. Sometimes it is possible to seal all the openings sufficiently well enough that oil or grease can be introduced over the piston head and pressurized with a : grease gun. Always remember if you try this, that it has its dangers, since it is entirely possible for something to rupture and cause serious injury, or even your sudden departure to another world. Burlap sacks and/or old inner tubes wrapped around the parts may help to minimize any flying shrapnel. The only other possibility is to make suitable jigs so that hydraulic or mechanical pressure can be used to remove the piston. Oftentimes the judicious use of heat is advised. Over the years we have heard lots of ideas. Some work. Some don't. No two situations are ever the same. Perhaps some of our readers have, however, become expert on the Reid engines. If so, let us know.

26/4/46 Ingeco Engine Q. I would like to communicate with anyone having a 10 HP Ingeco engine. It is a Type AO, s/n 9357, and built by International Gas Engine Co., Cudahy, Wisconsin. The engine resembles the Worthington engine on page 565 of American Gas Engines. Is it possible that this engine could have been sold as a hit-and-miss model, and then later fitted with a low tension magneto and a throttling governor? I especially need information on the flyball governor setup. Norman Warren, N. 13012 Mill Rd., Spokane, WA99218.

A. Although anything is possible, we have never heard of an Ingeco 10 HP built in a hit-and-miss style. Has anyone ever heard of an Ingeco hit-and-miss engine? Can anyone help Mr. Warren on the governor system?

26/4/47 Numbers Needed Q. What is the year built for the following engines: Olds Mo.1, Type A, 1? HP, s/n D3747; Duro, Mfg by Stover, s/n AC99346; Eclipse, Mfg by Fairbanks-Morse. Also  what is the correct paint color for these engines? John M. Preston, 2500 Curtis Road, Leonard, MI 48367.

A. The Duro was built in 1916. There are no numbers for the Olds, and no number is supplied for the Eclipse. See previous issues for the paint color listing.

26/4/48 Unidentified Engine Q. See the two photos of an unidentified engine. The serial no. of 2867L is right behind the magneto. The rod has #2? 4 H 16, the head is # 2? L 2, and the block is 3J4H29. Can anyone identify this engine? Glenn Pritchard, 1026 East Satsop Rd., Elma, WA 98541.

26/4/49 Standard Marine Q. Can anyone supply further information on the engine shown in the two photos? It is a Standard Marine, with a 4 x6 inch bore and stroke. I would like to hear from anyone who has one of these engines, or who can supply any information on same. H. J. Garman, PO Box 907, Manitou Springs, CO 80829.

26/4/50 French & Hecht Q. Can anyone supply any information or history on the French & Hecht Company? They made wheels for a lot of tractors and machinery, but I've never seen much about their history, or what other products they made. Sam Moore, 2337 St. Rt. 45 S., Salem, OH 44460-9456.

A. We too would like to know more about F&H. A 1931 advertisement in the Farm Implement News Buyer's Guide indicates that at that time F&H was producing wheels for nearly 800 American manufacturers. They were operating plants at Davenport, Iowa and Springfield, Ohio. Their advert also states, 'Wheel Builders Since 1888.' Apparently wheels were the only product, and F&H was equipped to supply wheels for almost anything from wheelbarrows to road making machinery.

26/4/51 Uebelhofer Bros. Inc. Q. See the photo of a garden tractor I recently acquired. Can anyone identify this unit? Also, what engine was used on a Choremaster one-wheeled garden tractor? I also recently acquired an unusual engine with the following description: Built By Uebelhofer Bros. Inc., Buffalo, New York, Model U23R6, s/n 12181. The crankcase is aluminum, with a cast iron cylinder. Any information will be appreciated. Tommy Coffey, 200 Power dr., Box C64-2, Hudson, NC 28638.

Readers Write

New-Way Engine Problems When a properly timed hit-and-miss engine tends to spit out liquid fuel droplets from the mixer intake upon governor hookup, it indicates that the automatic intake valve is not closing quickly enough. Assuming that the valve is seating properly, and that the valve stem works freely in the valve guide, this behavior is usually due to a weak intake valve spring. If the original spring has been re-used during a restoration, it may have become weakened over time by surface rust or metal fatigue.

In order to obtain an adequate charge of fuel during the intake stroke, it is necessary that the spring be as light as possible and still provide prompt closing and seating of the valve. I would suggest you install a slightly stiffer (stronger) spring, or you may install one or more washers under the spring, which will have a similar effect. The stiffer spring may reduce the charge somewhat, but will not affect the operation of the engine appreciably. I tried this on a John Deere 1? HP engine with good results. I will be interested to learn if this approach might solve the problems with the New-Way engine. James B. Romans, 9111 Louis Avenue, Silver Spring, MD 20910.

Modelmaker's Corner

I grew up around hit-and-miss engines and observed hundreds of them running at shows. One thing they all had in common, was that they all ran the same direction. Enclosed is a picture of a freelance hit-and-miss sideshaft model that will run forward or backward. It starts very easy in either direction. This engine has a l 15/16 x 1? inch bore and stroke and uses 6 inch flywheels. The frame and flywheels are from Breisch's Associated engine castings. The remainder of the engine was fabricated. J. T. Hanson, 111 Fairway Drive, Grenelefe, Haines City, FL 33844

A Closing Word

In recent months, several readers have sent us additional names of gas engine manufacturers. Our American Gas Engines has been around for eight years now, and we have added many, many names to the original listing. Although we are confident that all the major builders, and the majority of the smaller companies are included, it becomes increasingly obvious that even this 584-page volume doesn't cover the entire industry.

The great number of engine builders represents a unique chapter in the history of American industry. The boom years of 1910 to 1930 saw the greatest total production of engines. The previous twenty years saw a considerable number of companies, but relatively small production. Likewise, the twenty year period from 1930 to 1950 saw fewer and fewer engines built each year. With the onset of World War Two, those few companies remaining built a few engines, but production was severely limited by the lack of available cast iron. Then from 1945 to 1948 came the death struggle for the heavy engines that we so proudly collect.

All of us here at GEM are proud to have a part in preserving this unique piece of history, and we're happy to see the gas engine hobby gaining the credit it deserves. Over the years, we've seen everything imaginable put on postage stamps. Maybe it is time for our hobby to start lobbying for a gas engine stamp! Now wouldn't that be something!